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marty in Ohio · 08-23-2013, 06:56 AM

Guys,
I'm going to paint the fenders on my town sedan and I want to do this myself with rattle-can paint. A friend painted his entire coupe with Krylon paint and it turned out really good, but he didn't dare get any gasoline on the surface. He finally had the car clear coated. Will Rustoleum do the job for me or should I pick something else. I don't have access to a compressor and paint booth.

Ross/Kzoo · 08-23-2013, 07:16 AM

Check Youtube for videos on painting Rustoleum with a foam roller. They did an amazing job and looked like high end paint job after wet sanding and polishing. You need to get a lot of material on there to do the wet sanding so you don't go through to the primer. I prefer the Valspar that you get from TSC @ about $11/qt. They also sell a hardener/glosser for about $12. 2 quarts and a bottle glosser and about 6-7 roller and you're at about $40 and no overspray.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jv7aQQ_NU6U

tudoor · 08-23-2013, 07:21 AM

The are some paint stores that can mix single stage good quality paint into rattle cans. I have used them for touch up spots and they work excellent. Not cheap but the best you can buy for a can.

Elcastor · 08-23-2013, 09:41 AM

You could try this paint. Very authentic!

Randy in Illinois · 08-23-2013, 09:42 AM

Dupl-color paint in rattle cans, made by Sherwin Williams. They also have it in pre mixed quarts both in laqure and enamel, clear coat too. Real nice paint to work with. results last fairly long. Did my interrior window moldings, dash rail about 2 years ago, still look good.

billwill · 08-23-2013, 09:54 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by marty in Ohio

Guys,
I'm going to paint the fenders on my town sedan and I want to do this myself with rattle-can paint. A friend painted his entire coupe with Krylon paint and it turned out really good, but he didn't dare get any gasoline on the surface. He finally had the car clear coated. Will Rustoleum do the job for me or should I pick something else. I don't have access to a compressor and paint booth.

Krylon is not that good

lindy williams · 08-23-2013, 09:56 AM

If you plan to sand and buff the final paint, be sure to use the gloss hardener in any enamel. If you don't use the hardener you will sand through the thin tough outer layer of the paint and it will dull down quickly and never remain shiny vey long.

Kevin in NJ · 08-23-2013, 10:58 AM

Rustolum is oil based and will continually shrink. It will cause cracking as the layers of paint shink at different rates.

The other paints are thin junk with no real long term protection.

Keep that in mind as you decide. I do not know what your goals are.

ba49 · 08-23-2013, 11:32 AM

Hey Marty, I have seen that car. It looks amazing. It looks better than a lot of custom paint jobs I've seen.

marty in Ohio · 08-23-2013, 11:37 AM

Thanks guys for all the suggestions!! I'll probably go with something like Duplicolor. It seems to work O.K. on modern cars as a touch up. When my friend painted with Krylon he had a craze problem and I called Krylon for him. I was told that Krylon won't withstand gas but Duplicolor will. They are both made by Sherwin Williams. I'll let you know how it works out.

gweilbaker · 08-23-2013, 12:09 PM

If you are doing black, consider DuPont's Centari enamel, it lays down very nicely with a good brush plus hardener can be added if you need to color sand and buff. It is relatively low cost.

PetesPonies · 08-23-2013, 12:12 PM

If you are stuck with spray cans . . get lacquer. I would not use a spray can enamel on an exterior piece. At least with the lacquer, you know you can sand and buff. That being said, you can buy automotive paint that has been put into spray cans. You can buy online as well. But don't use enamel normally found in spray cans.

Terry, NJ · 08-23-2013, 01:16 PM

Over in Yesterday's Tractors, some of the guys would do it with a brush and before it dried, They would put a topcoat on with a spray can. The brush coat needs to be thin.
I painted my 1938 Allis Chalmers with Persian Orange #1 that way. Go to my profile and scroll down. BUT It's a Tractor, not a car!
Terry

V4F · 08-23-2013, 01:39 PM

I use a lot of "rustoleum" & like it .

Fred K-OR · 08-23-2013, 01:41 PM

What I found, in the 50 ft paint jobs I have done, is that a person needs to know a little bit about spray painting. Like how much to put on per coat, what does it look like when you have enough, etc.. I found that I could learn how to paint first by painting parts that don't show much and then go on to the parts that do show.

If you are an experience painter, forget my comments.

Will N · 08-23-2013, 02:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gweilbaker

If you are doing black, consider DuPont's Centari enamel, it lays down very nicely with a good brush plus hardener can be added if you need to color sand and buff. It is relatively low cost.

Can you even get Centari any longer? I tried buying some at a local auto paint supply house last fall, and they told me it was no longer available.

mot · 08-23-2013, 04:07 PM

go with dupli color
this fender to was painted well over 12 years ago
it has never been waxed,nor is the turck ever garaged
it sits out every day and night in the hot California sun
I wash it MAYBE twice a year
I did wipe it with a wet rag for the photo shoot you can see the rest of the hood is still dirty
and you can see where the original paint on the cowl is down to primer
needs to be painted
it has not faded,cracked or peeled
it wasn't an exact match for the truck as its 32 years old
but no one has ever mentioned the slight mismatch
the dirt hides it
tom

Larry Seemann · 08-23-2013, 04:12 PM

In my opinion, the best rattle can is appliance epoxy from Ace Hardware. Much tougher than ordinary rattle can.

JBill · 08-23-2013, 04:55 PM

Can't you rent a sprayer, preferably an HVLP? If not, I've used the Rustoleum that supposedly has double the coverage, and it works pretty well on furniture, but I've never used it on anything else. What I have found is that you can't recoat after an hour or so without getting really bad lifting and crazing. You have to wait a couple of days to do touchups or you end up having to sand down to the original surface.

springerpete · 08-23-2013, 05:41 PM

Find a good auto parts store ( not Auto Zone or VIP or places like that ) that sell paint to auto body folks. They should have good auto body paint in rattle cans and/or will be able to mix colors for you and put them in cans. I did my wheels that way and had good luck.

08-23-2013, 07:16 AM	#2
Ross/Kzoo Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Richland Mi. Posts: 1,172	Re: Rattle-can painting Check Youtube for videos on painting Rustoleum with a foam roller. They did an amazing job and looked like high end paint job after wet sanding and polishing. You need to get a lot of material on there to do the wet sanding so you don't go through to the primer. I prefer the Valspar that you get from TSC @ about $11/qt. They also sell a hardener/glosser for about $12. 2 quarts and a bottle glosser and about 6-7 roller and you're at about $40 and no overspray. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jv7aQQ_NU6U Last edited by Ross/Kzoo; 08-23-2013 at 07:22 AM.

08-23-2013, 07:21 AM	#3
tudoor Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: New Hampshire Posts: 62	Re: Rattle-can painting The are some paint stores that can mix single stage good quality paint into rattle cans. I have used them for touch up spots and they work excellent. Not cheap but the best you can buy for a can.

08-23-2013, 09:41 AM	#4
Elcastor Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Oregon and Baja Mexico Posts: 617	Re: Rattle-can painting You could try this paint. Very authentic! __________________ Ben Purkey Mexico and the Pacific NW http://www.martin-parry.com/

08-23-2013, 09:42 AM	#5
Randy in Illinois Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Illinois Posts: 193	Re: Rattle-can painting Dupl-color paint in rattle cans, made by Sherwin Williams. They also have it in pre mixed quarts both in laqure and enamel, clear coat too. Real nice paint to work with. results last fairly long. Did my interrior window moldings, dash rail about 2 years ago, still look good.

08-23-2013, 09:56 AM	#7
lindy williams Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 335	Re: Rattle-can painting If you plan to sand and buff the final paint, be sure to use the gloss hardener in any enamel. If you don't use the hardener you will sand through the thin tough outer layer of the paint and it will dull down quickly and never remain shiny vey long.

08-23-2013, 06:56 AM	#1
marty in Ohio Senior Member Join Date: May 2011 Location: Elyria, Ohio Posts: 756	Rattle-can painting Guys, I'm going to paint the fenders on my town sedan and I want to do this myself with rattle-can paint. A friend painted his entire coupe with Krylon paint and it turned out really good, but he didn't dare get any gasoline on the surface. He finally had the car clear coated. Will Rustoleum do the job for me or should I pick something else. I don't have access to a compressor and paint booth.

08-23-2013, 10:58 AM	#8
Kevin in NJ Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: South East NJ Posts: 3,398	Re: Rattle-can painting Rustolum is oil based and will continually shrink. It will cause cracking as the layers of paint shink at different rates. The other paints are thin junk with no real long term protection. Keep that in mind as you decide. I do not know what your goals are.

08-23-2013, 11:32 AM	#9
ba49 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Sheffield Lake, Ohio Posts: 137	Re: Rattle-can painting Hey Marty, I have seen that car. It looks amazing. It looks better than a lot of custom paint jobs I've seen.

08-23-2013, 11:37 AM	#10
marty in Ohio Senior Member Join Date: May 2011 Location: Elyria, Ohio Posts: 756	Re: Rattle-can painting Thanks guys for all the suggestions!! I'll probably go with something like Duplicolor. It seems to work O.K. on modern cars as a touch up. When my friend painted with Krylon he had a craze problem and I called Krylon for him. I was told that Krylon won't withstand gas but Duplicolor will. They are both made by Sherwin Williams. I'll let you know how it works out.

08-23-2013, 12:09 PM	#11
gweilbaker Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Lindenhurst, IL Posts: 792	Re: Rattle-can painting If you are doing black, consider DuPont's Centari enamel, it lays down very nicely with a good brush plus hardener can be added if you need to color sand and buff. It is relatively low cost.

08-23-2013, 12:12 PM	#12
PetesPonies Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: South Carolina Posts: 316	Re: Rattle-can painting If you are stuck with spray cans . . get lacquer. I would not use a spray can enamel on an exterior piece. At least with the lacquer, you know you can sand and buff. That being said, you can buy automotive paint that has been put into spray cans. You can buy online as well. But don't use enamel normally found in spray cans. __________________ Pete's Ponies Mustang RUSToration & Performance

08-23-2013, 01:16 PM	#13
Terry, NJ Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Bucks Co, Pa Posts: 3,740	Re: Rattle-can painting Over in Yesterday's Tractors, some of the guys would do it with a brush and before it dried, They would put a topcoat on with a spray can. The brush coat needs to be thin. I painted my 1938 Allis Chalmers with Persian Orange #1 that way. Go to my profile and scroll down. BUT It's a Tractor, not a car! Terry

08-23-2013, 01:39 PM	#14
V4F Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: ca. Posts: 2,522	Re: Rattle-can painting I use a lot of "rustoleum" & like it . __________________ V4f

08-23-2013, 01:41 PM	#15
Fred K-OR Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Stayton, Oregon Posts: 3,806	Re: Rattle-can painting What I found, in the 50 ft paint jobs I have done, is that a person needs to know a little bit about spray painting. Like how much to put on per coat, what does it look like when you have enough, etc.. I found that I could learn how to paint first by painting parts that don't show much and then go on to the parts that do show. If you are an experience painter, forget my comments. __________________ Fred Kroon 1929 Std Coupe 1929 Huckster

08-23-2013, 04:12 PM	#18
Larry Seemann Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Spokane, WA. Posts: 496	Re: Rattle-can painting In my opinion, the best rattle can is appliance epoxy from Ace Hardware. Much tougher than ordinary rattle can. __________________ Larry Seemann

08-23-2013, 04:55 PM	#19
JBill Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 702	Re: Rattle-can painting Can't you rent a sprayer, preferably an HVLP? If not, I've used the Rustoleum that supposedly has double the coverage, and it works pretty well on furniture, but I've never used it on anything else. What I have found is that you can't recoat after an hour or so without getting really bad lifting and crazing. You have to wait a couple of days to do touchups or you end up having to sand down to the original surface.

08-23-2013, 05:41 PM	#20
springerpete Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Central Maine Posts: 644	Re: Rattle-can painting Find a good auto parts store ( not Auto Zone or VIP or places like that ) that sell paint to auto body folks. They should have good auto body paint in rattle cans and/or will be able to mix colors for you and put them in cans. I did my wheels that way and had good luck.