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rawlir · 04-12-2024, 06:39 PM

Hello.
i am restoring a 47 Tonner with a 4speed transmission. There is a keyway/slot ? toward the bottom of the shifter. Can anyone shed any light on the part i think goes into that slot?
Thanks.

51504bat · 04-12-2024, 06:49 PM

See #7221

cas3 · 04-12-2024, 11:36 PM

That slot holds the shift lever in place. It is supposed to slide into a 1/4" pin, that sits in a hole in the threaded portion of the shift tower...right side I think. Many times they are worn out, the pin is loose and can easily fall into the tranny when removing the shift lever.

The slot in the lever should be nice and square, and the pin should fit snug in both the lever and the hole in the cover. It can be fixed, but make sure the pin did not fall into the trans.

GB SISSON · 04-12-2024, 11:48 PM

I'm an expert at losing that pin down there... twice, and recovered both times. You need to put on your rubber glove and do some searching. If it isn't laying near the plug then it's likely in the valley between two gears ready to mesh. We'd love to see some pics of your project.

petehoovie · 04-13-2024, 01:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rawlir

Hello.
i am restoring a 47 Tonner with a 4speed transmission. There is a keyway/slot ? toward the bottom of the shifter. Can anyone shed any light on the part i think goes into that slot?
Thanks.

petehoovie · 04-13-2024, 01:07 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by 51504bat

See #7221

rawlir · 04-13-2024, 01:14 PM

Guys,
so there is a round pin (7221)at the very bottom, is that the ONLY fastener connecting the shifter lever to the tranny? And do i understand you to be saying that the grove in my photo (up about 10") fits into a slot that might be worn to the point that it could break off & slip down into the tranny?
Thank you!

rawlir · 04-13-2024, 05:09 PM

OK, My bad! I now understand (I hope) how this works, i was wrong about pin location, i will call Van Pelt & get this done, i think i am on the right track now.....
Thank you!

GB SISSON · 04-13-2024, 05:17 PM

No, they don't wear out and slip into the tranny. This little steel dowel would have to turn 90 degrees to do that. When new, they are a snug fit. It's really just and indexing fixture so the can always clocks the same way. The whole shifter cane assembly is held to the tranny's lid with a fine threaded stamped steel hat looking thing.

GB SISSON · 04-13-2024, 05:22 PM

You should be able to just buy a piece of round stock at the hardware or auto parts store or in those pull out trays? Better yet, a 9/32 drill bit, cut a piece off the back end of it. There's your oversized hardened steel pin.

Mac VP · 04-14-2024, 05:37 AM

Sometimes I feel like a broken record on this issue. Please don’t use a hardened pin or drill stock for this part. You want the cheapest and easiest to replace part to be the pin……not the shifter lever or the shifter housing. If the $2.00 pin starts to wear, it’s a piece of cake to check it out and to replace it. Not so much for the lever or the shifter housing. Pick your poison and do what you’d like to do. Nice good housings and levers are not crowding the shelves at our shop.

GB SISSON · 04-14-2024, 08:09 AM

Good advice Mac, I stand corrected.

04-12-2024, 11:36 PM	#3
cas3 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: sw minnesota Posts: 4,582	Re: 47 Tonner pickup Tranny 4speed That slot holds the shift lever in place. It is supposed to slide into a 1/4" pin, that sits in a hole in the threaded portion of the shift tower...right side I think. Many times they are worn out, the pin is loose and can easily fall into the tranny when removing the shift lever. The slot in the lever should be nice and square, and the pin should fit snug in both the lever and the hole in the cover. It can be fixed, but make sure the pin did not fall into the trans. Last edited by cas3; 04-13-2024 at 05:54 PM.

04-12-2024, 11:48 PM	#4
GB SISSON Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Orcas Island Washington Posts: 4,963	Re: 47 Tonner pickup Tranny 4speed I'm an expert at losing that pin down there... twice, and recovered both times. You need to put on your rubber glove and do some searching. If it isn't laying near the plug then it's likely in the valley between two gears ready to mesh. We'd love to see some pics of your project. __________________ Owner/Operator of 'Jailbar Ranch' on the side of Mt. Pickett. Current stable consists of 1946 1/2 ton pickup turned woodie wagon with FH V8, 1947 Tonner Pickup (red) mostly stock with exception of a cummins 6at turbo diesel, 1946 Tonner Pickup (green) with 226 cu in 6 cyl flathead, 1979 Toyota landcruiser wagon, completely encased in 1947 Ford Jailbar sheet metal. Ok, cornbinder rear fenders..... 'Rusty ol' floorboards, hot on their feet' (Alan Jackson)

04-13-2024, 05:09 PM	#8
rawlir Member Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Spokane Valley, WA Posts: 94	Re: 47 Tonner pickup Tranny 4speed OK, My bad! I now understand (I hope) how this works, i was wrong about pin location, i will call Van Pelt & get this done, i think i am on the right track now..... Thank you!

04-13-2024, 05:17 PM	#9
GB SISSON Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Orcas Island Washington Posts: 4,963	Re: 47 Tonner pickup Tranny 4speed No, they don't wear out and slip into the tranny. This little steel dowel would have to turn 90 degrees to do that. When new, they are a snug fit. It's really just and indexing fixture so the can always clocks the same way. The whole shifter cane assembly is held to the tranny's lid with a fine threaded stamped steel hat looking thing. __________________ Owner/Operator of 'Jailbar Ranch' on the side of Mt. Pickett. Current stable consists of 1946 1/2 ton pickup turned woodie wagon with FH V8, 1947 Tonner Pickup (red) mostly stock with exception of a cummins 6at turbo diesel, 1946 Tonner Pickup (green) with 226 cu in 6 cyl flathead, 1979 Toyota landcruiser wagon, completely encased in 1947 Ford Jailbar sheet metal. Ok, cornbinder rear fenders..... 'Rusty ol' floorboards, hot on their feet' (Alan Jackson)

04-13-2024, 05:22 PM	#10
GB SISSON Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Orcas Island Washington Posts: 4,963	Re: 47 Tonner pickup Tranny 4speed You should be able to just buy a piece of round stock at the hardware or auto parts store or in those pull out trays? Better yet, a 9/32 drill bit, cut a piece off the back end of it. There's your oversized hardened steel pin. __________________ Owner/Operator of 'Jailbar Ranch' on the side of Mt. Pickett. Current stable consists of 1946 1/2 ton pickup turned woodie wagon with FH V8, 1947 Tonner Pickup (red) mostly stock with exception of a cummins 6at turbo diesel, 1946 Tonner Pickup (green) with 226 cu in 6 cyl flathead, 1979 Toyota landcruiser wagon, completely encased in 1947 Ford Jailbar sheet metal. Ok, cornbinder rear fenders..... 'Rusty ol' floorboards, hot on their feet' (Alan Jackson)

04-13-2024, 01:14 PM	#7
rawlir Member Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Spokane Valley, WA Posts: 94	Re: 47 Tonner pickup Tranny 4speed Guys, so there is a round pin (7221)at the very bottom, is that the ONLY fastener connecting the shifter lever to the tranny? And do i understand you to be saying that the grove in my photo (up about 10") fits into a slot that might be worn to the point that it could break off & slip down into the tranny? Thank you!

04-14-2024, 05:37 AM	#11
Mac VP Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Cincinnati, OH Posts: 1,362	Re: 47 Tonner pickup Tranny 4speed Sometimes I feel like a broken record on this issue. Please don’t use a hardened pin or drill stock for this part. You want the cheapest and easiest to replace part to be the pin……not the shifter lever or the shifter housing. If the $2.00 pin starts to wear, it’s a piece of cake to check it out and to replace it. Not so much for the lever or the shifter housing. Pick your poison and do what you’d like to do. Nice good housings and levers are not crowding the shelves at our shop. __________________ VANPELT SALES LLC Cincinnati, Ohio Office: 513-724-9486 www.vanpeltsales.com www.classictransmission.com

04-14-2024, 08:09 AM	#12
GB SISSON Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Orcas Island Washington Posts: 4,963	Re: 47 Tonner pickup Tranny 4speed Good advice Mac, I stand corrected. __________________ Owner/Operator of 'Jailbar Ranch' on the side of Mt. Pickett. Current stable consists of 1946 1/2 ton pickup turned woodie wagon with FH V8, 1947 Tonner Pickup (red) mostly stock with exception of a cummins 6at turbo diesel, 1946 Tonner Pickup (green) with 226 cu in 6 cyl flathead, 1979 Toyota landcruiser wagon, completely encased in 1947 Ford Jailbar sheet metal. Ok, cornbinder rear fenders..... 'Rusty ol' floorboards, hot on their feet' (Alan Jackson)