The Ford Barn

steve hackel · 07-09-2022, 12:16 PM

Helping my friend Nick disassembl his cab and doors; the locking RH door handle is locked and he has no keys, and we can't figure out how to remove it for further door disassembly.
Trying to strip down the doors : regulators, glass and channels, Door handles and finally the undercoating inside the skins - but we're stuck at this point and need some help. Thanks

Phil Brown · 07-09-2022, 02:47 PM

You need to be able to turn the handle aprox. 45 deg. To pull out and being locked prevents that. No way to unlock it without the key as it's not the latch mechanism in the door it's the cylinder in the handle that's locked preventing it from turning. Try a mobile locksmith to pick the lock and make a key or as a last resort you could drill the cylinder out but that pretty much ruins the handle

Bob C · 07-09-2022, 04:05 PM

I think you could take a putty knife or small screwdriver between the door and B pillar
and push the striker back to open the door.

steve hackel · 07-09-2022, 05:11 PM

I was able to get the door open and we have been playing with the hex shaft for
a few hours; seems that I might be able to get a Dremel tool and a 1/8" carbide
cutter in there and work on the retainer, thin it out and bend it up and around the
slot in the shaft. As suggested, normally I would just drill out the cylinder but I am
trying to save the mechanism because it's very nice. we'll keep at it for a while.

Synchro909 · 07-09-2022, 07:22 PM

There should be a number stamped into the square shaft that operates the lock. The number is A XXXX. If you quote that number, a good locksmith can make you a key. I had a friend in Arizona have it done for me.

steve hackel · 07-09-2022, 08:03 PM

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Thanks for the number code information, we will look for that next and hopefully we'll get lucky
On that one!

Ted Duke · 07-09-2022, 08:25 PM

Go to a locksmith.

steve hackel · 07-09-2022, 11:14 PM

I suppose that before we start grinding or drilling we can take the door off and
bring it to a local lock smith - once the hinge pins are finally removable . Thanks

Big hammer · 07-10-2022, 07:21 AM

Locksmith do make house calls!

katy · 07-10-2022, 10:17 AM

An old trick is to use 2 shingle nails (not roofing nails) in the lock cylinder to turn it.

nkaminar · 07-10-2022, 11:03 AM

The lock works with a number of pins (tumblers). You can rake the tumblers with a straightened bobby pin while you put some torque on the lock with a screw driver. The tumblers will stick in the open position as they are raked. It will take some practice to make this work but it will work.

07-09-2022, 12:16 PM	#1
steve hackel Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: midlothian illinois Posts: 447	30 P/U - locking passenger handle removal - it's locked! Helping my friend Nick disassembl his cab and doors; the locking RH door handle is locked and he has no keys, and we can't figure out how to remove it for further door disassembly. Trying to strip down the doors : regulators, glass and channels, Door handles and finally the undercoating inside the skins - but we're stuck at this point and need some help. Thanks

07-09-2022, 02:47 PM	#2
Phil Brown Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Santee Calif. Posts: 510	Re: 30 P/U - locking passenger handle removal - it's locked! You need to be able to turn the handle aprox. 45 deg. To pull out and being locked prevents that. No way to unlock it without the key as it's not the latch mechanism in the door it's the cylinder in the handle that's locked preventing it from turning. Try a mobile locksmith to pick the lock and make a key or as a last resort you could drill the cylinder out but that pretty much ruins the handle

07-09-2022, 04:05 PM	#3
Bob C Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: So Cal Posts: 8,755	Re: 30 P/U - locking passenger handle removal - it's locked! I think you could take a putty knife or small screwdriver between the door and B pillar and push the striker back to open the door.

07-09-2022, 05:11 PM	#4
steve hackel Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: midlothian illinois Posts: 447	Re: 30 P/U - locking passenger handle removal - it's locked! I was able to get the door open and we have been playing with the hex shaft for a few hours; seems that I might be able to get a Dremel tool and a 1/8" carbide cutter in there and work on the retainer, thin it out and bend it up and around the slot in the shaft. As suggested, normally I would just drill out the cylinder but I am trying to save the mechanism because it's very nice. we'll keep at it for a while.

07-09-2022, 07:22 PM	#5
Synchro909 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 7,496	Re: 30 P/U - locking passenger handle removal - it's locked! There should be a number stamped into the square shaft that operates the lock. The number is A XXXX. If you quote that number, a good locksmith can make you a key. I had a friend in Arizona have it done for me. __________________ I'm part of the only ever generation with an analogue childhood and a digital adulthood.

07-09-2022, 08:03 PM	#6
steve hackel Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: midlothian illinois Posts: 447	Re: 30 P/U - locking passenger handle removal - it's locked! Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements) Thanks for the number code information, we will look for that next and hopefully we'll get lucky On that one!

07-09-2022, 08:25 PM	#7
Ted Duke Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Fairfield, Virginia Posts: 615	Re: 30 P/U - locking passenger handle removal - it's locked! Go to a locksmith.

07-09-2022, 11:14 PM	#8
steve hackel Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: midlothian illinois Posts: 447	Re: 30 P/U - locking passenger handle removal - it's locked! I suppose that before we start grinding or drilling we can take the door off and bring it to a local lock smith - once the hinge pins are finally removable . Thanks

07-10-2022, 07:21 AM	#9
Big hammer Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Land of Lincoln Posts: 3,131	Re: 30 P/U - locking passenger handle removal - it's locked! Locksmith do make house calls! __________________ Don't force it with a little hammer tap, tap, tap get a bigger hammer tap done

07-10-2022, 10:17 AM	#10
katy Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: Red Deer, Alberta Posts: 5,046	Re: 30 P/U - locking passenger handle removal - it's locked! An old trick is to use 2 shingle nails (not roofing nails) in the lock cylinder to turn it. __________________ If you don't hear a rumor by 10 AM, start one!. Got my education out behind the barn!

07-10-2022, 11:03 AM	#11
nkaminar Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Western North Carolina Posts: 3,900	Re: 30 P/U - locking passenger handle removal - it's locked! The lock works with a number of pins (tumblers). You can rake the tumblers with a straightened bobby pin while you put some torque on the lock with a screw driver. The tumblers will stick in the open position as they are raked. It will take some practice to make this work but it will work. __________________ A is for apple, green as the sky. Step on the gas, for tomorrow I die. Forget the brakes, they really don't work. The clutch always sticks, and starts with a jerk. My car grows red hair, and flies through the air. Driving's a blast, a blast from the past.