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09-17-2020, 07:59 PM | #21 |
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Re: 12v conversion 59a starter solenoid 4 pole. 46 Mercury.
Unless you have something different connected up the ignition switch should have nothing to do with the solenoid you installed. The ignition switch input should be hot all the time and connected to the same solenoid terminal as the battery (thus hot all the time, just like the original).
Might have to do a little more think here (that's on my part) but I don't see why it won't work the way you are wanting to wire it up. |
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09-17-2020, 08:21 PM | #23 | |
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This looks like it should work to me. Last edited by JSeery; 09-17-2020 at 08:31 PM. |
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09-17-2020, 08:43 PM | #24 | |
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So is it just to re run a wire from solenoid start switch connection to starter button on dash? As other wiring is how it already is? With the existing fitted jumper wire still in place as per single wire set up? Phil NZ |
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09-17-2020, 08:47 PM | #25 |
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Re: 12v conversion 59a starter solenoid 4 pole. 46 Mercury.
Not familiar with your solenoid but when I changed to 12V neg earth (ground) I had to add a 12V relay to get my stock starter button to work.
The starter button grounds the relay and the relay sends 12V to the starter solenoid. |
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Starter button grounds solenoid , solenoid clicks closed and power then to outlet to starter and its solenoid. Phil NZ |
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09-17-2020, 09:00 PM | #27 |
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Re: 12v conversion 59a starter solenoid 4 pole. 46 Mercury.
just relooked at the enlarged wiring diagram and it seems similar operation to wiring diagram as per J Serry?
The 2 input wires at the battery connection terminal are to: 1: Field terminal at Voltage regulator. 2:Ignition switch, gauges etc. Phil NZ |
09-17-2020, 09:12 PM | #28 |
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Re: 12v conversion 59a starter solenoid 4 pole. 46 Mercury.
If your starter engages when you short out the starter button terminal on the solenoid, then it should be the same thing when wired to the button on the dash. All the button is, is a connection to ground. It is the chrome button with a single connection on it correct? They can be an issue with not making a good ground connection to the hole it is installed in. I think Kube always adds an additional ground wire from the housing.
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before the engine rebuild it was still on 6v and this worked ok. Will check clean up at start button etc and retry. Got some time back a large colour coded and laminated wiring diagram from Classic Car Wiring in USA for 46.47 & 48 Mercury cars.These have been a great help to clearly see and follow. Phil NZ |
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09-17-2020, 10:16 PM | #31 |
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Re: 12v conversion 59a starter solenoid 4 pole. 46 Mercury.
Ok so looked behind starter button and saw the earth wire had detached from switch.
Pulled out switch, cleaned up contacts and refitted wire. surprise surprise it started right up!!! yea. Probably happened when I was swapping out 6v dash lamps for 12 v. Appreciate all assistance and advice gived. Phil NZ |
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Re: 12v conversion 59a starter solenoid 4 pole. 46 Mercury.
Wow, Phil!! This has been quite a ride!! J. Seery to the rescue with his super electrical knowledge! Just goes to show what a great resource this Ford Barn network is.
Very happy you've got this solved and can now get out an put on some "road miles". |
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09-18-2020, 04:15 AM | #34 |
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It cant as with the high torque starter, the change to 12 volt or the new style generator.
I was refering to the original key to ignition switch and via a firewall mounted solenoid as opposed to a new 2 wire key switch direct to starter. i have still retained the single wire set up as opposed to 2 wire set up. Also this 4 post solenoid sits beneath one of those original type heaters which has an air mounted duct on underside of hood.The motor for heater almost obscures this solenoid. Phil NZ Last edited by Phil Gillespie; 09-18-2020 at 04:20 AM. |
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Re: 12v conversion 59a starter solenoid 4 pole. 46 Mercury.
Way to go Phil!
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