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RalphG · 02-12-2016, 01:14 PM

Thought this was an interesting article from Hemmings on the rare 1950 Mercury two door woody wagon.
http://blog.hemmings.com/index.php/2...on/?refer=news

woodiewagon46 · 02-12-2016, 01:59 PM

Yes, 1949 are 1950 Mercury's are rarer than Ford wagons of the same years. The Mercury had a longer wheelbase 118 inches versus 114 for the Ford and the rated HP was 110 and the Ford was 100. There were also several other differences but the Merc was $400 to $500 more, a lot of money in those days. That '50 is beautiful!

RalphG · 02-12-2016, 02:31 PM

I have a book (Mercury Automobiles 1939-1959 Photo Archive) and depending on which page you believe , there was a production run of either 8,044 or 8,057 of these two door "woodies". Referred to as the model 79B and there is no mention of price. Weight of 3696 pounds.

Stenny · 02-12-2016, 02:38 PM

There is a slight mistake in that article. Mercury only offered 2 dr wagons for '49 thru '51. From'57 thru '59 they offered 2 dr wagons along with 4 dr wagons.

rotorwrench · 02-12-2016, 02:41 PM

They aren't really all that rare but they are rarely seen on the road for sure. Whom ever restored that one likely doesn't drive it daily. It still looks too clean and unscratched. They are very nice vehicles but very expensive to restore and maintain unless you do all your own wood work. I imagine there are a lot of funds tied up in that particular restoration or at least a lot of time.

RalphG · 02-12-2016, 02:48 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Stenny

There is a slight mistake in that article. Mercury only offered 2 dr wagons for '49 thru '51. From'57 thru '59 they offered 2 dr wagons along with 4 dr wagons.

That is true although my book does not mention them. I see a 57 2 door wagon for sale on Hemmings.
http://www.hemmings.com/classifieds/...r/1498115.html

mercman from oz · 02-12-2016, 03:57 PM

Thought that I would attach photos of this gorgeous 1950 Mercury Woody to make it easier to view them. Unlike the 49-51 Ford Woodys, the Mercury Wagons used the same Windscreens as the other models. The Windscreens on the Ford Woodys were narrower. That is why all 49-51 Ford Woodys used the carry-over 1949 Dash, as it was also narrower, and Ford didn't want to go the the extra expense of tooling up for the redesigned dash. On the Mercury Woodys, they got the updated dash as it was the same width as the other models.

V8 Bob · 02-12-2016, 04:01 PM

Information and pictures I have states Ford and Mercury shared the same station wagon bodies in '49-'51. The differences are in the doors and front dog house, and the 4" longer Mercury wheel base looks to be from the cowl forward.

rotorwrench · 02-12-2016, 05:23 PM

The bodies are a lot different. The Mercury Frame is completely different.

mercman from oz · 02-12-2016, 05:23 PM

To illustrate the point that I made about the "narrower" Windscreens on the 49-51 Fords in my previous Post, check out these two photos of the "A" Pillars comparing the Woody with the Closed cars. You will notice that they are spaced further "in" on the Woody, than on all the other models, including the Convertible. That is why the 49-51 Ford Woodys had to have a special "narrow" Dash made especially for the Woodys. On the same year Mercury, the "A" Pillar is in the same position on the Woodys as it is on all the other models, so the Mercury Woodys were able to use the regular production Dash, as it fit all of models in the Mercury range. Granted, these Woody Bodies look similar, but in light of the narrower "A" Pillar on the Ford Woody Bodies, they are not identical?

mrtexas · 02-12-2016, 05:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RalphG

That is true although my book does not mention them. I see a 57 2 door wagon for sale on Hemmings.
http://www.hemmings.com/classifieds/...r/1498115.html

Cool, I rode around in a pick 57 merc wagon as a kid for about 5 years.

mercman from oz · 02-12-2016, 09:01 PM

This 1957 Mercury Commuter 2-door Hardtop Station Wagon was imported into Australia when it was nearly new, and converted to Right Hand Drive. This photo was taken in the late Sixties. After passing through a succession of Owners, is was subsequently chopped up. That was a great shame, as these are great looking Wagons.

Clem Clement · 02-12-2016, 09:05 PM

I had a '61 Merc Comet Tudor wagon. 6cyinder and automatic tranny. What a dog.

moefuzz · 02-13-2016, 05:59 AM

That Merc is housed in a museum, has likely never been driven further than off/on a trailer.

The owner, Chris Koch worked in sales and promotion for Ford back in the 60's and eventually started his own Ford dealership branching into other manufacturers.

He sold his dealerships and finance companies to Roger Penske (of the racing family) and then retired to Florida where he is a high ranking judge for the Concours de Elegance.

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moefuzz · 02-13-2016, 06:22 AM

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This is Kock's Museum, mostly Ford and Mercury based....

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corvette8n · 02-13-2016, 09:12 AM

Where is this museum located?, looks like it needs to go on the bucket list.

mhsprecher · 02-13-2016, 09:37 AM

It was a stop on the AACA Founder's Tour in 2011. http://aacafloridaregion.com/FoundersTour2011.php

http://www.faqs.org/tax-exempt/FL/Auto-Stalgia-Inc.html

mrtexas · 02-13-2016, 10:56 AM

American excess with all the bells and whistles. This was the color of our 57 as well:

02-12-2016, 01:14 PM	#1
RalphG Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2014 Location: Sask. Canada Posts: 2,424	Mercury 2 Door Wagon Thought this was an interesting article from Hemmings on the rare 1950 Mercury two door woody wagon. http://blog.hemmings.com/index.php/2...on/?refer=news __________________ https://www.youtube.com/user/roosty6/videos

02-12-2016, 01:59 PM	#2
woodiewagon46 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Long Island,NY Posts: 1,556	Re: Mercury 2 Door Wagon Yes, 1949 are 1950 Mercury's are rarer than Ford wagons of the same years. The Mercury had a longer wheelbase 118 inches versus 114 for the Ford and the rated HP was 110 and the Ford was 100. There were also several other differences but the Merc was $400 to $500 more, a lot of money in those days. That '50 is beautiful!

02-12-2016, 02:31 PM	#3
RalphG Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2014 Location: Sask. Canada Posts: 2,424	Re: Mercury 2 Door Wagon I have a book (Mercury Automobiles 1939-1959 Photo Archive) and depending on which page you believe , there was a production run of either 8,044 or 8,057 of these two door "woodies". Referred to as the model 79B and there is no mention of price. Weight of 3696 pounds. __________________ https://www.youtube.com/user/roosty6/videos

02-12-2016, 02:38 PM	#4
Stenny Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 58	Re: Mercury 2 Door Wagon There is a slight mistake in that article. Mercury only offered 2 dr wagons for '49 thru '51. From'57 thru '59 they offered 2 dr wagons along with 4 dr wagons.

02-12-2016, 02:41 PM	#5
rotorwrench Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: San Antonio, Texas Posts: 16,457	Re: Mercury 2 Door Wagon They aren't really all that rare but they are rarely seen on the road for sure. Whom ever restored that one likely doesn't drive it daily. It still looks too clean and unscratched. They are very nice vehicles but very expensive to restore and maintain unless you do all your own wood work. I imagine there are a lot of funds tied up in that particular restoration or at least a lot of time.

02-12-2016, 03:57 PM	#7
mercman from oz Senior Member Join Date: May 2012 Location: Queensland, Australia Posts: 10,377	Re: Mercury 2 Door Wagon Thought that I would attach photos of this gorgeous 1950 Mercury Woody to make it easier to view them. Unlike the 49-51 Ford Woodys, the Mercury Wagons used the same Windscreens as the other models. The Windscreens on the Ford Woodys were narrower. That is why all 49-51 Ford Woodys used the carry-over 1949 Dash, as it was also narrower, and Ford didn't want to go the the extra expense of tooling up for the redesigned dash. On the Mercury Woodys, they got the updated dash as it was the same width as the other models.

02-12-2016, 04:01 PM	#8
V8 Bob Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Granger (Northern) Indiana Posts: 1,520	Re: Mercury 2 Door Wagon Information and pictures I have states Ford and Mercury shared the same station wagon bodies in '49-'51. The differences are in the doors and front dog house, and the 4" longer Mercury wheel base looks to be from the cowl forward.

02-12-2016, 05:23 PM	#9
rotorwrench Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: San Antonio, Texas Posts: 16,457	Re: Mercury 2 Door Wagon The bodies are a lot different. The Mercury Frame is completely different.

02-12-2016, 05:23 PM	#10
mercman from oz Senior Member Join Date: May 2012 Location: Queensland, Australia Posts: 10,377	Re: Mercury 2 Door Wagon To illustrate the point that I made about the "narrower" Windscreens on the 49-51 Fords in my previous Post, check out these two photos of the "A" Pillars comparing the Woody with the Closed cars. You will notice that they are spaced further "in" on the Woody, than on all the other models, including the Convertible. That is why the 49-51 Ford Woodys had to have a special "narrow" Dash made especially for the Woodys. On the same year Mercury, the "A" Pillar is in the same position on the Woodys as it is on all the other models, so the Mercury Woodys were able to use the regular production Dash, as it fit all of models in the Mercury range. Granted, these Woody Bodies look similar, but in light of the narrower "A" Pillar on the Ford Woody Bodies, they are not identical?

02-12-2016, 09:01 PM	#12
mercman from oz Senior Member Join Date: May 2012 Location: Queensland, Australia Posts: 10,377	Re: Mercury 2 Door Wagon This 1957 Mercury Commuter 2-door Hardtop Station Wagon was imported into Australia when it was nearly new, and converted to Right Hand Drive. This photo was taken in the late Sixties. After passing through a succession of Owners, is was subsequently chopped up. That was a great shame, as these are great looking Wagons.

02-12-2016, 09:05 PM	#13
Clem Clement Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Fairfax, VA Posts: 3,393	Re: Mercury 2 Door Wagon I had a '61 Merc Comet Tudor wagon. 6cyinder and automatic tranny. What a dog.

02-13-2016, 05:59 AM	#14
moefuzz Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Under A Clean V8 Posts: 228	Re: Mercury 2 Door Wagon That Merc is housed in a museum, has likely never been driven further than off/on a trailer. The owner, Chris Koch worked in sales and promotion for Ford back in the 60's and eventually started his own Ford dealership branching into other manufacturers. He sold his dealerships and finance companies to Roger Penske (of the racing family) and then retired to Florida where he is a high ranking judge for the Concours de Elegance. .

02-13-2016, 06:22 AM	#15
moefuzz Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Under A Clean V8 Posts: 228	Re: Mercury 2 Door Wagon . This is Kock's Museum, mostly Ford and Mercury based.... .

02-13-2016, 09:12 AM	#16
corvette8n Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: 36 miles north of Albany NY Posts: 2,955	Re: Mercury 2 Door Wagon Where is this museum located?, looks like it needs to go on the bucket list.

02-13-2016, 09:37 AM	#17
mhsprecher Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Takoma Park, MD Posts: 2,818	Re: Mercury 2 Door Wagon It was a stop on the AACA Founder's Tour in 2011. http://aacafloridaregion.com/FoundersTour2011.php http://www.faqs.org/tax-exempt/FL/Auto-Stalgia-Inc.html

02-13-2016, 10:56 AM	#18
mrtexas Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Sugar Land, TX Posts: 4,395	Re: Mercury 2 Door Wagon American excess with all the bells and whistles. This was the color of our 57 as well: