The Ford Barn

Tom Wesenberg · 10-03-2015, 10:29 PM

Look where the tank line of bolts runs side to side. The tank date is just above that seam and on the driver's side.

Cars should always be stored with the tops up. Your Corvette top may not fit now if it's been down for a long time.

Those irons are for the floorboards.

Charlie Stephens · 10-03-2015, 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by 00fxd

Question ... what tags are supposed to be affixed to the firewall on the engine side? I am disappointed to report that the one tag remaining is now illegible no matter how much I blow it up. I know it used to be quite readable. All of a sudden it got aged :-( crap ... The car was built in Canada

If it was a US built car it would be a list of patents that the car was built under. I would assume it was the same for Canada but slanted towards Canada. Be sure to join a local club if there is one.

Charlie Stephens

john charlton · 10-04-2015, 09:52 AM

Dont try to start it untill you clean out the oil pan . It will be full of old gunge that you will pump around the engine if you dont do this . Also the valve chest ,the main bearings are fed from this and it needs to be clean . If you are not mechanically minded the learned guys on the barn will talk you through it.

John in sunny Suffdolk County England .

katy · 10-04-2015, 10:22 AM

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crap ... The car was built in Canada

You live in BC and have something against Canadian built cars?

00fxd · 10-04-2015, 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by katy

You live in BC and have something against Canadian built cars?

Not at all .... I was referring to the fact that the tag faded suddenly ...
"All of a sudden it got aged :-( crap ... "

700rpm · 10-04-2015, 11:10 AM

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They are only original once. It has a unique visual history. If you "restore" it it will look like just another restored Model A. If it were mine, I would make it mechanically safe and sound, and leave the cosmetics as is.

Fred K-OR · 10-04-2015, 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by 00fxd

Does anyone know, are these irons from this car?

Yes floor board irons as Tom mentioned. If you need any more I have a set of them.

It was said that on the early Model A's, Ford used box boards that were used to ship parts to him, as the floor boards. Thus the need for these irons to tie all the boards together for a floor board. If I am wrong, guys that know more than I do, please correct me.

00fxd · 10-04-2015, 07:20 PM

Thanks all for the feedback, I will keep the irons with the car then - I had heard the story of the shipping boxes. I think they were Oak? In speaking with old time body men/street rodders I was told that Ford used a better grade of wood than the competitors.
Can anyone help me with some of my other questions? Any thoughts on what caused the deep scratches on the top 1/2 of the outside? I don't think anyone was haulin' big rolls of barbed wire :-)
Why do I think that there was another tag on the fire wall besides the one that I can';t read anymore?
I have an engine starter crank with a sheared pin, I am going to replace it, can some one please tell me how wide/long the pin needs to be?

Thanks, Frank

Charlville · 10-05-2015, 02:09 AM

Nice

I wouldn't restore it.

Just tidy it up, make it safe and keep the memories.

They are only new once

Tom Wesenberg · 10-05-2015, 02:40 AM

The original hand crank was one piece with the lugs being oval shaped.
I can measure mine tomorrow when I'm in the garage, but off hand I'd guess they protrude about 5/16" on each side.

Hoogah · 10-05-2015, 04:11 AM

I reckon I'd need to see a photo of the scratches to form an opinion about how they got there, but I once inflicted a nasty scratch on my old '27 Chev tourer while taking the top down, so that's quite possible. It's probably just academic now anyway, and if you fix this car up enough to drive, they'll become part of its "story", albeit an unknown part!

00fxd · 07-29-2016, 06:58 PM

Hello all. I am cleaning out the fuel system. Looking into the Fuel filler I see that there is a strainer screen in the shape of a tube. Is this screen assembly removable for cleaning? Does it drop it or is there a retaining ring that needs to be removed? I have it soaking in penatrant. I want to make sure before I pry and bend it.

00fxd · 07-29-2016, 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Hoogah

I reckon I'd need to see a photo of the scratches to form an opinion about how they got there, but I once inflicted a nasty scratch on my old '27 Chev tourer while taking the top down, so that's quite possible. It's probably just academic now anyway, and if you fix this car up enough to drive, they'll become part of its "story", albeit an unknown part!

Hi Hoogah, I finally took some pics of the scratches. They are a curiosity to me.

1930artdeco · 07-29-2016, 07:45 PM

Hi 00fxd, If there are more than one set of holes near the tag on the fire wall, which was a patent data plate if nobody responded, then it probably was a body tag. It would be rectangular about 3/4" high and 2 or inches long.

Mike

1930marie · 07-29-2016, 08:47 PM

That is one nice looking car! Keep us posted.

Big hammer · 07-29-2016, 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by 00fxd

Hello all. I am cleaning out the fuel system. Looking into the Fuel filler I see that there is a strainer screen in the shape of a tube. Is this screen assembly removable for cleaning? Does it drop it or is there a retaining ring that needs to be removed? I have it soaking in penatrant. I want to make sure before I pry and bend it.

Suppliers sell a tool that fits the 4 notches and hopefully you can unscrew your screen/filter thingy :-) ! Get the suppliers catalogs, they help a lot with pictures and how to's most are free!!

00fxd · 07-29-2016, 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Big hammer

Suppliers sell a tool that fits the 4 notches and hopefully you can unscrew your screen/filter thingy :-) ! Get the suppliers catalogs, they help a lot with pictures and how to's most are free!!

So the screen assembly screws out? I see now, looked in the Brattons catalogue ..... Thanks Big.

Hoogah · 07-30-2016, 08:18 AM

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Originally Posted by 00fxd

Hi Hoogah, I finally took some pics of the scratches. They are a curiosity to me.

They sure don't look like regular wear and tear from putting the top up and down! Looks like Edward Scissorhands has been getting in and out of every door! Adds to the patina, though! Protect it and keep it.

al's28/33 · 07-30-2016, 08:32 AM

raccoons, cats, rats and Opossums probably used it for an easy shelter while it was stored outside.....

00fxd · 07-30-2016, 08:35 AM

Pretty serious markings from animal toenails :-)

If these cars could only talk .....

10-03-2015, 10:29 PM	#21
Tom Wesenberg Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Mpls, MN Posts: 27,582	Re: Got the old girl home Look where the tank line of bolts runs side to side. The tank date is just above that seam and on the driver's side. Cars should always be stored with the tops up. Your Corvette top may not fit now if it's been down for a long time. Those irons are for the floorboards.

10-04-2015, 09:52 AM	#23
john charlton Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 1,304	Re: Got the old girl home Dont try to start it untill you clean out the oil pan . It will be full of old gunge that you will pump around the engine if you dont do this . Also the valve chest ,the main bearings are fed from this and it needs to be clean . If you are not mechanically minded the learned guys on the barn will talk you through it. John in sunny Suffdolk County England .

10-04-2015, 11:10 AM	#26
700rpm Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Portland, Oregon Posts: 5,906	Re: Got the old girl home Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements) They are only original once. It has a unique visual history. If you "restore" it it will look like just another restored Model A. If it were mine, I would make it mechanically safe and sound, and leave the cosmetics as is. __________________ Ray Horton, Portland, OR As you go through life, keep your eye on the donut, not the hole.

10-04-2015, 07:20 PM	#28
00fxd Member Join Date: Aug 2015 Location: Okanogan, BC, Canada Posts: 46	Re: Got the old girl home Thanks all for the feedback, I will keep the irons with the car then - I had heard the story of the shipping boxes. I think they were Oak? In speaking with old time body men/street rodders I was told that Ford used a better grade of wood than the competitors. Can anyone help me with some of my other questions? Any thoughts on what caused the deep scratches on the top 1/2 of the outside? I don't think anyone was haulin' big rolls of barbed wire :-) Why do I think that there was another tag on the fire wall besides the one that I can';t read anymore? I have an engine starter crank with a sheared pin, I am going to replace it, can some one please tell me how wide/long the pin needs to be? Thanks, Frank

10-05-2015, 02:09 AM	#29
Charlville Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: West Berkshire, United Kingdom Posts: 368	Re: Got the old girl home Nice I wouldn't restore it. Just tidy it up, make it safe and keep the memories. They are only new once __________________ Kevin Flood West Berkshire UK Member MAFCGB, VHRA, SAH, Brooklands Trust Sporadic progress on My 1929 Sport Coupe can be found here along with my blog http://automotiveamerican.com/

10-05-2015, 02:40 AM	#30
Tom Wesenberg Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Mpls, MN Posts: 27,582	Re: Got the old girl home The original hand crank was one piece with the lugs being oval shaped. I can measure mine tomorrow when I'm in the garage, but off hand I'd guess they protrude about 5/16" on each side.

10-05-2015, 04:11 AM	#31
Hoogah Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2014 Location: Warrnambool, Victoria, Australia Posts: 800	Re: Got the old girl home I reckon I'd need to see a photo of the scratches to form an opinion about how they got there, but I once inflicted a nasty scratch on my old '27 Chev tourer while taking the top down, so that's quite possible. It's probably just academic now anyway, and if you fix this car up enough to drive, they'll become part of its "story", albeit an unknown part!

07-29-2016, 07:45 PM	#34
1930artdeco Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Lynden, Wa Posts: 3,552	Re: Got the old girl home Hi 00fxd, If there are more than one set of holes near the tag on the fire wall, which was a patent data plate if nobody responded, then it probably was a body tag. It would be rectangular about 3/4" high and 2 or inches long. Mike __________________ 1930 TownSedan (Briggs) 1957 Country Sedan

07-29-2016, 08:47 PM	#35
1930marie Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2015 Location: Oregon Posts: 238	Re: Got the old girl home That is one nice looking car! Keep us posted. __________________ They know enough who know to learn.

07-30-2016, 08:32 AM	#39
al's28/33 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Redwood City, CA Posts: 1,591	Re: Got the old girl home raccoons, cats, rats and Opossums probably used it for an easy shelter while it was stored outside..... __________________ 1928 "A" Phaeton (mid year with many early features) 1933 "V8" Closed-Cab Pickup Truck (originally a Model B, 4 Cylinder dating to May, 1933)

07-30-2016, 08:35 AM	#40
00fxd Member Join Date: Aug 2015 Location: Okanogan, BC, Canada Posts: 46	Re: Got the old girl home Pretty serious markings from animal toenails :-) If these cars could only talk .....