adapter t-5 transmission to model a moter

[100YVAT]

best place to get a adapter to put a 1993 s-10 t-5 5 speed transmission to a model a motor (it has the ford bolt pattern )

[Mike V. Florida]

If you feel you must,

http://www.lainefamily.com/ModelAFiles/ModelAT5.htm

But I heard Auto Restorations closed due to illness.

[Mike V. Florida]

Here is a link to the sister forum to this one HAMB (deals in hot rods and stuff) ;

http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/t...-links.169265/

[hardtimes]

Originally Posted by 100YVAT

best place to get a adapter to put a 1993 s-10 t-5 5 speed transmission to a model a motor (it has the ford bolt pattern )

Welcome to the forum ! I'm curious, as to how you settled on the year /model trans that you selected ?

As Mike has stated, guys at the HAMB are expert at this mod. Matter of fact, some over there supply the necessary adaptors, etc that you seek. I'd like to do as you are doing, as I hear that many Model A owners have done same same and are happy with results. BUT, they say that you have to have the CORRECT trans/gearing in trans to be satisfied. I'm getting too buggered up to do that now...

[brokenspoke]

I used a S10 4x4 5 speed and kept the torque tube....crazydaddyo on the HAMB makes the adapter

[denis4x4]

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Originally Posted by hardtimes

Welcome to the forum ! I'm curious, as to how you settled on the year /model trans that you selected ?

As Mike has stated, guys at the HAMB are expert at this mod. Matter of fact, some over there supply the necessary adaptors, etc that you seek. I'd like to do as you are doing, as I hear that many Model A owners have done same same and are happy with results. BUT, they say that you have to have the CORRECT trans/gearing in trans to be satisfied. I'm getting too buggered up to do that now...

That particular model has the correct gearing for an A plus it locates the shifter in front of the seats. Some T-5's locate the shifter to far back to work in an A.

[V4F]

my t-5 is a .072 overdrive . works well . the shifter location is key . good luck . steve

[Binger]

Originally Posted by Mike V. Florida

If you feel you must,

http://www.lainefamily.com/ModelAFiles/ModelAT5.htm

But I heard Auto Restorations closed due to illness.

Is there any other source for a clutch Disc where the hub has the correct offset to run that T-5? I have all the other parts except the disk.

[machine girl]

our kit uses the AA bell housing you don't need that offset disc.

[Binger]

Originally Posted by machine girl

our kit uses the AA bell housing you don't need that offset disc.

Unfortunately I have already shortened my torque tube to accept an adapter from the 4WD S10 T-5 to torque tube. I have also shortened my radius rods to work on that set up too. I may have to find another tube and an AA bell housing. The tube is easy but the AA part is a lot harder to find. I guess I will have to go on a search. Machine Girl is there a web site that shows what is in your kit?

[100YVAT]

the t-5 5 speed transmission have a big selection of gear selections and the camaro and s-10 bolt patterns are on ones up to the 93models after that they went to the ford pattern . to get the forward shifter location you need to get a s-10 unit. Some of the s-10 rear tailhousings can be put on a camaro unit You really have to do a lot of homework to see what will fit what

[Crazydaddyo]

Steve Serr sells an adapter:

http://www.millerhi-speedheads.com/transadapter.htm

Here is another one:

http://www.vintageprecision.com/prod...ngs/index.html

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[dustyp489]

I am using the Miller head company kit , Mr. Serr has the kit for an AA bell or sells a new housing . I am going with the open drive shaft . A good source on AA Bellhousing is Rufus Ranch or on Here . Serr also sells the Masterbrake kit and Park Brake Kit . The only problem I am Having is the open drive Shaft , Have not found any one that make a 6 spline with the "A" cover (mine is a quickchange from Derck Thomsom).

[machine girl]

best to make a new shaft for the quickchange to use a modern u joint spline?

[harleytoprock]

I like the availability of ratios offered with the T5 transmission. However, can theT5 be installed without any mods to the mechanical brake system?

[dustyp489]

Iam tring not to do that . It takes a 1936 spline an there is 2 kits out there. But the cove is differnt pattern to the "A' ,there is also a kit for the "A" but the spline is bolt on . tring to not have to buy 2 kits to make one "pricy"

[harleytoprock]

Dustyp, With the open drive shaft, what are your plans for radius rods?

[Tim Armstrong]

I put an early S10 trans in my 49 F-1, boy does it ever make a difference. Shiting is smooth and easy.

[hardtimes]

Originally Posted by Binger

Is there any other source for a clutch Disc where the hub has the correct offset to run that T-5? I have all the other parts except the disk.

Hey Blinger,
Ha, You have all the other parts, and I have a new disc and throw out bearing and none of the other parts !

As luck would have it, the guy that I bought the disc/bearing from....sold the t-5 out from under me ! Where does a person best locate the correct t-5..junk yard , ebay, etc

[Binger]

Originally Posted by hardtimes

Hey Blinger,
Ha, You have all the other parts, and I have a new disc and throw out bearing and none of the other parts !

As luck would have it, the guy that I bought the disc/bearing from....sold the t-5 out from under me ! Where does a person best locate the correct t-5..junk yard , ebay, etc

I got lucky and found my T-5 at a swap meet a few years ago. It was the only t-5 I saw all day and it turned out to be the correct 4X4 trans that I was looking for. I needed the 4X4 trans because of the adapter I am running for a torque tube rear end. If you are planning on running an open drive shaft there is plenty of options. Astro Van, Camero, Mustang and 2WD S-10 trucks and blazers. The link earlier in this thread for a H.A.M.B. t-5 tech page is an awesome source for finding the right gear set for your needs. I got all the other parts I needed from restoration supply. I picked up their bell trans plate a pilot bearing extender and a sleeve for the throw out bearing. I should have bought their Disc when I got the other parts. I need that particular disc so I can run a stock bell housing. If I cant find one I will need to find an AA bell and have to find another torque tube and change a lot of other things that I have already set up. I will try and post a pic of what I have so far later today.

[Binger]

This isn't exactly Ford Barn friendly but you can see how it will work for a stock frame set up.

[denis4x4]

You can use the stock A crossmember with a T-5. I fabricated the reinforcement piece, drilled holes and bolted it into place before cutting the cross member. You can use the stock radius rods by welding a 1/4" X 1-1/2" flat stock on the radius rod seam. You can just barely see it in the first photo. It will go much faster if you drill lightening holes in the flat stock! In the first shot, you can see how I used the stock brake set up to operate a master cylinder located under the passenger side floor board

[dustyp489]

Harleytoprock:

The plan is to make a trans mount and add a mount under that for the Radious rods . The kit that Auto resortration sold had the Rods hook to the bottom of the T-5. Serr's Kit does not call for a trans mount but I am not sure I like that, thats why I am adding one.


Skip

[harleytoprock]

dusty, The Auto Restoration kit radius rod mount had the radius rod connection way low. This made the rear change angle and created poor driveshaft alignment . I guess you also have plans for beefier radius rods.

[100YVAT]

were do you get the rear adapter (trany to a closed drive tube)

[brokenspoke]

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Originally Posted by 100YVAT

were do you get the rear adapter (trany to a closed drive tube)

crazydaddyo makes the adapter

[afuncar]

model a trans gearing 1-3.12 2-1.85 3-1to1 S10 1-3.78 2-2.18 3-1.42 4-1to1 5-0.72 gm t5 #13-52-145 MINE CAME OUT OF 1986 V6 BLAZER.

[harleytoprock]

If you look down this list, you'll find that many ratios were used on the T5.
http://www.britishv8.org/Articles/Bo...T5-ID-Tags.htm

[Logan]

I just assume all of us with right hand drive model a's are out of luck, unless we somehow come up with a rhd AA bell housing?

[1931 flamingo]

Could always hook up a hyd clutch.......

Paul in CT

[T Pryor]

I have a AA bell housing and a "new T-5". When using a AA bell housing I have question:

*Does the face of the AA bell housing have enough real-estate to just drill 4 mounting holes with no adapter plate?
* What clutch arm, clutch plate and clutch disc is recommended? I already have a new V-8 clutch from Snyders.
* I want to keep the torque tube arrangement. When shortening the Tube and Drive shaft.....How much is sectioned from both? Can I use a shaft coupling from these folks?

http://www.staffordmfg.com/Search.as...FWpk7AodBDQAKg

Do you have a tail piece adapter for this approach? Cost?

Hope you have a great Holiday, looking forward to your reply!

[Pete]

Here is an adapter to get a T5 transmission to an A/B block that can be made with no machine tools. (lathe, mill)
All you need is a sawzall, a 3/8 drill motor and some rotary files.
All you need is a magnet base indicator to align it with the engine.
This uses a stock Chev V8 bell housing or Lakewood scatter shield, a
hydraulic clutch slave cylinder, stock Chev clutch and pressure plate and
a 12 lb CHEV aluminum flywheel.
The S10 T5 bolts right on. You can either use a Crazydaddyo adapter to torque tube or run an open driveline with center mounted radius rods.
The steel bracket on the 2 inch plate mounts a Chev gear drive starter on the right side.

And, no, I don't have any more info about it other than what is here but I know of 2 guys that made them from the shown pic.

[CarlG]

Originally Posted by Logan

I just assume all of us with right hand drive model a's are out of luck, unless we somehow come up with a rhd AA bell housing?

Seems like I read somewhere that there was someone in NZ that was building a bell housing that would work with a T-5 or the RTS Tremec; RHD or LHD.

[T Pryor]

Originally Posted by machine girl

our kit uses the AA bell housing you don't need that offset disc.

How can I contact Machine Girl? Does she have a Webb site?

[hardtimes]

Originally Posted by T Pryor

How can I contact Machine Girl? Does she have a Webb site?

Go to top of page and click on 'community'. Click on 'members' and scroll down alphabetically to member Machine Girl. Click on name and get contact info...I think !!

[CarlG]

Originally Posted by T Pryor

How can I contact Machine Girl? Does she have a Webb site?

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[mollydog]

I'm just finishing my T-5 conversion. I used a belhousing from Graeme McNeill, Mac's Speedshop in New Zealand. Pricy but a good quality piece. It has the shaft to use the stock clutch and brake petals, Also has the shaft for the clutch throwout fork. I got an adapter from Speedway motors that goes on the T-5 input shaft and uses the stock A/B throwout bearing. Also I used a stock "A" flywheel and pressure plate. Speedway also has the 9" clutch disc with the correct spline for the T-5. The only mod I had to do was shorten the trans pilot shaft as it was to long. Speedway also has the correct pilot bearing for the T-5 to A or B flywheel.

Mollydog