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Flathead FAQs
When I am in a hurry to avoid a rain storm or getting petrol on the way somewhere in a rush some Chevy guy all ways comes up and asks me questions or tells me something about flatheads, I am no expert but I made this video for them, oh and you Y block guys will like it to.
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06-09-2020, 04:31 AM | #2 |
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That's right. It's everyday fodder for us, but another world for the mainstream. Good little vid. Thanks for putting it together.
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I want to educate the wold about not using the term big and small block when talking about Ford V8s
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So, what term should we use, FE or Windsor? I have a 1937 with the 85 hp engine. I always tell people that it is the "big" engine compared to the 60 hp. Now I'll have to rethink that description. I've got time, it isn't on the road right now.
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What's to "rethink", and what am I missing? In the FLATHEAD Ford world during the 1937-1940 era, there was only one BIG (85 HP) engine, and only one SMALL (60 HP) engine. Sounds pretty 'clear-cut' to me! But what do I know? Maybe I should have aimed this question more toward Rudolph. DD |
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Easy in my opinion flathead 21 or 24 stud or V8 60 (rather than 17 stud)
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Isn't the Lincoln/Big Truck 337 ci flathead the "Big Block"?
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True (!), but that's way beyond the '37-'40 era talked about. That thing shouldn't even be included in "flathead Ford" lore. It's just a big, heavy, ugly, ill-fitting, beastly ol' dump truck lump of a motor, with a Lincoln or three thrown-in there for good measure.....MY worthless opinion, of course! DD |
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People are always trying to change stuff and add more acronyms or stupid dizzy words.
They changed cycles to hertz some time ago so I am going to pedal my byhertz to the store and get a 6 pack of suds. |
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Wellll...……..NO! Hertz (Hz) and "cycles" are actually two different critters. The term "Hertz" is always used in precisely measuring cycles/time. One Hz is defined as one complete cycle per second. The term Hertz is usually used to measure elements of sound, light, or AC electrical activity. The term "cycle" can mean all sorts of things. One "cycle" of anything usually means that some sort of operation has begun, run through it's full function, with the intended operation finally terminating successfully....one complete cycle. An aircraft taking-off and landing successfully constitutes "one cycle" in the airplane world. This term usually applies to larger aircraft which take-off and go through ONE cycle of pressurizing the hull, depressurizing again and eventually landing. The landing gear has been cycled up AND down "X" number of times. The air conditioner completes a cycle when the compressor comes on-line, removes heat from your truck's interior to the point of satisfying the thermostat, and shuts-off! Your electric company bills you through twelve cycles of usage annually. So, your above statement needs just a little re-evaluation. DD |
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Several years ago when they held the TROG race in California there was a 337 flathead powered entry. It was high class looking. Don't know how well it ran since the race pretty much got rained out but it was an impressive looking machine. I did a search trying to find something about it but Mr. Google let me down. Or should I say maybe I just didn't ask the right questions.
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[QUOTE=Zeke3;1897346]So, what term should we use, FE or Windsor?
you pretty much answered your own question, with the flathead the cubs or HP is enough, Last edited by Rudolph; 06-09-2020 at 08:23 PM. |
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so I am going to pedal my byhertz to the store
and get a 6 pack of suds. Good one Pete!!
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"4 plugs on a V6, how does that work? It's ionizing the water"
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The flathead actually has 4 exhaust ports on each side, because one is used twice at different parts of the engine cycle. Now this could benefit exhaust tuning by creating a vacuum in the exhaust header. The firing order fires the end cylinders on the first revolution of the cycle and the center ports on the next revolution. Thus the center port has two power pulses for each engine cycle. Maybe we could take advantage of this in a new header design. Think fellows, think
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1- Standard 1.75 dia. 3 pipe swept back street type headers. 2- Home made 2 inch dia "W" type header with baffle in center at big flange and reverse flow dams at the ports. 3 - 2 inch zoomies with reverse flow dams. The zoomies made the most power but we could not run them on the track. We did run them at Bonneville though. |
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I was thinking I'd run the end ports into the collector and stop-. Then run the center in about a foot, the extra pulses from ther center port might draw more from the end ports.
I probably won't work but I thing the sound of a flathead might be caused by this.???? |
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I widh I had all these ideas when I had a dyno???
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A wile back everyone was selling those port dividers for the centre port but I think the restriction was worse than the cross contamination,
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"Drug store hot rodders"! One of those brainiac know-it-alls armed with a magazine article, or better yet....a J.C. Whitney add claiming that those dividers will easily add a hundred horsepower. "Grind a smidge, install, and be the KING of your local drag strip!" DD |
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All you need is a piece of Inconel 1"x1"x1/8". (Race engines only) |
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