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oz40 · 07-09-2017, 04:57 PM

To the 35/36 gurus here on Fordbarn...What are the 1935 and 1936 headlight differences?? thankyou

VeryTangled · 07-09-2017, 05:20 PM

Hi Everyone. Um, oz40, they're shaped differently, they have different shaped lenses with the 36 being much more bulbous. Never tried swapping them but the fenders are not shaped the same either.

If you have the '35/'36 book from the V-8 Club there are a bunch of photos in it.
https://www.earlyfordv8.org/Shop.cfm?id=18&pid=2
If you look at this page you can see a couple of photos, they're not great quality because it's a digital image of the book cover.

Lucky, I have one of each handy so I just went out and took a couple of shots. Black is '35, Blue is '36.

Brian · 07-09-2017, 05:32 PM

Also, apart from the different lenses, the bolt that protrudes from the bottom of the bucket, for mounting/aiming the headlights , is shorter on a 36 than the 35 version

oz40 · 07-09-2017, 06:09 PM

So body shape, slightly different.
Different lense.
Also with short and long mounting bolts.

Is there differences in the headlight stainless trim ring,,,as I have seen some thin versions also?..

Brian · 07-09-2017, 06:29 PM

True, the trim rings differ markedly too

JM 35 Sedan · 07-09-2017, 06:55 PM

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The body or bucket of the headlights on '35 & '36 passenger cars is the same. Also the same bucket as used on '38-'39 trucks, and maybe some other years. As already mentioned, the mounting bolt length is longer on '35, but the bolts could be changed to suit the application. The stainless trim rings and lenses are also different as mentioned, but again could be changed from one to the other. I see many '35's at shows wearing '36 SS trim rings and lenses where owners are not concerned about correctness or being judged for points.

oz40 · 07-10-2017, 12:41 AM

Many thanks so far to, Very Tangled,, Brian and JM 35 Sedan..

oldandtired · 07-10-2017, 06:00 AM

The 35 passenger bucket interchanges with the 38/9 pickup. The 40/41 truck headlight bucket is the same dimensions as the 35 bucket and has a factory seal beam which makes a nice interchange if you want to run seal beams without having to put a seal beam kit on the 35 bucket. The 36 bucket has that much shorter bolt and a "soapdish" mounting piece. I never tried mounting a 36 bucket with the shorter bolt to a 38/9 pickup headlight stand and I do not know if that would be an issue.

danliveshere · 07-10-2017, 07:29 AM

Tom what do you need? Dan

Milt/Las Vegas · 07-10-2017, 11:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VeryTangled

Hi Everyone. Um, oz40, they're shaped differently, they have different shaped lenses with the 36 being much more bulbous. Never tried swapping them but the fenders are not shaped the same either.

If you have the '35/'36 book from the V-8 Club there are a bunch of photos in it.
https://www.earlyfordv8.org/Shop.cfm?id=18&pid=2
If you look at this page you can see a couple of photos, they're not great quality because it's a digital image of the book cover.

Lucky, I have one of each handy so I just went out and took a couple of shots. Black is '35, Blue is '36.

My brother used 40 big truck headlight buckets on his 36 because they used seal beams.

Randy in ca · 07-11-2017, 05:04 PM

A little additional information to what's been given. As mentioned, the same basic bucket (with the long '35 style mounting bolt) was used on trucks larger than pickup until 1941. They were also used on the COE trucks all the way to 1947. The buckets were equipped with sealed beams beginning in 1940 but this version was only adjustable by moving the entire bucket. A new version (with the same basic bucket) was equipped with an internal mechanism for adjusting the sealed beam within the bucket was used on the 1941 trucks and the COE until 1947. Either of the sealed beam versions work well if you want sealed beams with stock appearance and aren't concerned with total originality.

krbarnes · 06-10-2020, 09:56 AM

Reviving this topic. Will a 35 lens fit into a 36 bucket, using the 36 stainless trim ring? I like the flatter lens of the 35.
Thanks

Karl Wescott · 06-10-2020, 02:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by krbarnes

Reviving this topic. Will a 35 lens fit into a 36 bucket, using the 36 stainless trim ring? I like the flatter lens of the 35.
Thanks

NO. The 1935 lens does not fit the 1936 rim, or visa versa. A 1935 lens/rim combination should fit a 1936 bucket fine.

07-09-2017, 04:57 PM	#1
oz40 Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Paradise - Australia Posts: 306	What are the 1935 and 1936 headlight differences To the 35/36 gurus here on Fordbarn...What are the 1935 and 1936 headlight differences?? thankyou

07-09-2017, 05:32 PM	#3
Brian Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Masterton, New Zealand Posts: 3,834	Re: What are the 1935 and 1936 headlight differences Also, apart from the different lenses, the bolt that protrudes from the bottom of the bucket, for mounting/aiming the headlights , is shorter on a 36 than the 35 version __________________ Unfortunately, two half wits don't make a whole wit!

07-09-2017, 06:09 PM	#4
oz40 Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Paradise - Australia Posts: 306	Re: What are the 1935 and 1936 headlight differences So body shape, slightly different. Different lense. Also with short and long mounting bolts. Is there differences in the headlight stainless trim ring,,,as I have seen some thin versions also?..

07-09-2017, 06:29 PM	#5
Brian Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Masterton, New Zealand Posts: 3,834	Re: What are the 1935 and 1936 headlight differences True, the trim rings differ markedly too __________________ Unfortunately, two half wits don't make a whole wit!

07-09-2017, 06:55 PM	#6
JM 35 Sedan Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Near Rising Sun, Maryland Posts: 10,858	Re: What are the 1935 and 1936 headlight differences Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements) The body or bucket of the headlights on '35 & '36 passenger cars is the same. Also the same bucket as used on '38-'39 trucks, and maybe some other years. As already mentioned, the mounting bolt length is longer on '35, but the bolts could be changed to suit the application. The stainless trim rings and lenses are also different as mentioned, but again could be changed from one to the other. I see many '35's at shows wearing '36 SS trim rings and lenses where owners are not concerned about correctness or being judged for points. __________________ *John* *"Never give up on what you really want to do. The person with big dreams is more powerful than one with all the facts". Albert Einstein* Last edited by JM 35 Sedan; 07-10-2017 at 04:43 AM.

07-10-2017, 12:41 AM	#7
oz40 Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Paradise - Australia Posts: 306	Re: What are the 1935 and 1936 headlight differences Many thanks so far to, Very Tangled,, Brian and JM 35 Sedan..

07-10-2017, 06:00 AM	#8
oldandtired Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Edgefield, SC Posts: 811	Re: What are the 1935 and 1936 headlight differences The 35 passenger bucket interchanges with the 38/9 pickup. The 40/41 truck headlight bucket is the same dimensions as the 35 bucket and has a factory seal beam which makes a nice interchange if you want to run seal beams without having to put a seal beam kit on the 35 bucket. The 36 bucket has that much shorter bolt and a "soapdish" mounting piece. I never tried mounting a 36 bucket with the shorter bolt to a 38/9 pickup headlight stand and I do not know if that would be an issue.

07-10-2017, 07:29 AM	#9
danliveshere Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Cairns , Australia Posts: 746	Re: What are the 1935 and 1936 headlight differences Tom what do you need? Dan

07-11-2017, 05:04 PM	#11
Randy in ca Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 1,646	Re: What are the 1935 and 1936 headlight differences A little additional information to what's been given. As mentioned, the same basic bucket (with the long '35 style mounting bolt) was used on trucks larger than pickup until 1941. They were also used on the COE trucks all the way to 1947. The buckets were equipped with sealed beams beginning in 1940 but this version was only adjustable by moving the entire bucket. A new version (with the same basic bucket) was equipped with an internal mechanism for adjusting the sealed beam within the bucket was used on the 1941 trucks and the COE until 1947. Either of the sealed beam versions work well if you want sealed beams with stock appearance and aren't concerned with total originality.

06-10-2020, 09:56 AM	#12
krbarnes Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2020 Location: Michigan Posts: 3	Re: What are the 1935 and 1936 headlight differences Reviving this topic. Will a 35 lens fit into a 36 bucket, using the 36 stainless trim ring? I like the flatter lens of the 35. Thanks