September 1928 Tudor

[Neil Mylar LakewoodCA]

I am in the process of buying what appears to be a pretty original 1928 Tudor Sedan. I hope to have it home, next week.
Please check out the pictures. I can post more.
The date on the firewall is 8-27-28. The motor number is A418725, which was built on 9-13-28. Both Steve Plucker and Marco Tahtaras seem to think that the 17 day difference still makes sense.
There is an ‘AS 1939’ (Seattle plant) on the body cross member. The total 1928 production figure for the Seattle plant was 9348. I’m not sure if it was the 1939th car built at the plant in 1928 or the 1939th tudor sedan built at the plant in 1928.

The upholstery appears to be old and original, except for front seat covers. When I get it home, I will see what the upholstery looks like under the seat covers.
I am confused with the patterns at the top of the doors and side panels. Is it original? Has anyone seen that before?

There have been some changes, but they can be corrected. It has been converted to 12 volts and has a 12 volt alternator. The radiator is reproduction. It comes with a honeycomb radiator with an original shroud (I have an original radiator, that needs soder work that I plan to put on it).

It still has the solid front cross member, but someone has added float-o-motor mounts, which I will replace. It has a tillotson carb.

The exterior has been repainted black. I’m hopeful that it could be sanded down to the original paint. I took pictures of the firewall, the bottom side of the hood, the inside gas tank area and some of the interior window moldings. I would appreciate your ideas on what the original color might have been. Some of the areas appear green, but there was no green color in 1928, Could it be Niagara blue (light or dark) or possibly Gunmetal blue? The interior window moldings appear to be a gray color, as well as under the hood.

It has a tear drop choke rod, a working FM horn, a pistol grip emergency brake handle on the transmission. The front brake rods are non-adjustable (not sure about the rears)


I don't know if it has a multiple disk clutch. I could not remove the floor board to inspect. Can anyone tell by the picture of the bell housing?

The car was built at the Seattle Ford plant in 1928. In 1963 it was located in Corvallis, Oregon, as seen by a 63-64 Oregon State University sticker on the windshield. Recently, it was in the San Diego area.

It has a trailer hitch that is bolted to the rear cross member (taking the place of the spring hold down brackets).

I'm excited to get it home.
I'd love to hear your thoughts.
Regards, Neil

[Neil Mylar LakewoodCA]

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[J Wade]

I have a Tudor vin A302344. It has a multiple disc clutch. I don't know when they changed. All the pictures you posted look the same, even the green dash. I did't know they didn't have green in 28. Mine was repainted red and black, and needs to be redone.

[al's28/33]

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GREAT sedan!!!! thanks for posting pics I'm sure someone will know if you have original interior, looks 86 years old! Keep the '28 parts in your "restoration" I've had my "A" for 15 years and still finding little things to hunt for in keeping it correct. BRAVO!!

[al's28/33]

exterior color has to be duchess or niagara blue ?

[Mitch//pa]

good luck and enjoy it,, nice find

[J Wade]

What is the picture you posted next to the bell housing?

[wrndln]

Looks to me that it is a nice original car with a few alterations like you mentioned. I would bet the car has a multidisc clutch in it. I know the inspection plate is smaller for a multidisc clutch, but I doubt you can see it with the floorboards installed. The car looks nice the way it is. I sure wouldn't restore it.
Rusty Nelson

[Neil Mylar LakewoodCA]

The picture next to the bell housing is of the bottom side of the hood.

Here are a few more pictures. As you can see, the drum taillight has been replaced.

Someone once told me that the honeycomb radiators were early 28, but they look like a period replacement to me. Anyone know who made them?

[Neil Mylar LakewoodCA]

I will not restore it, but I do plan on replacing the non original parts.
It has sat for awhile, so I also plan on removing the valve cover and the plate under the oil pump to verify there is no sludge.
If the original paint can be retreaved, I will do that too.
September 28 cars are suppose to have the multiple disk clutch. I'm hoping it still does.

[RandyinUtah]

I would think if you pulled the dash panel you could get a better idea of the original paint color. That area behind the speedometer would not be subjected to fading.

[pgerhardt]

Great car! My idea of the perfect restoration project. It is much more fun than correcting all the mistakes of a previous restoration. I understand and respect the trend today to embrace the patina of an unrestored car, but am old school in that I'd love bringing it back to the way it was in 1928.

I am betting that the color was "gunmetal blue" which looks actually like a shade of green and was a 1928 color. I don't know if it is original, but I love the detail at the top of the door and side panels!

BTW I don't know if it still has its powerhouse generator. If not I have two. One with the bracket for a tensioning arm, and a later one without it.

[2manycars]

That strip of cloth trim along the top of the panels is correct for 1928 only.

[pgerhardt]

Originally Posted by 2manycars

That strip of cloth trim along the top of the panels is correct for 1928 only.

Correct me if I am wrong, but it appears as if (with the exception of adding separate emergency brakes forced by state regulations) all changes during model a production were done to simplify, speed production, and cut costs. Interiors and exterior paint schemes all got simpler and faster to produce.

[Ron in Quincy]

Neil

I am inclined to believe the color is Niagara Blue Light which has a green cast to it; if so the belt color may be Duchess Blue and a French Grey stripe.

The grey interior moldings are correct.

The trim on the door top and rear side panels is unique to at least the 1928 Tudor and Sport Coupe.

The long arm on the fork shaft indicates it may have the Multi Disc Clutch; the longer arm is required to provide proper alignment with the clutch pedal; the shaft is also longer and should have a collar and pin on the passenger side.

The Fan Shroud is correct but the honey comb radiator is a replacement.

The FM horn is the earliest one, referred to as the hump back; I suspect it came with the Tudor.

I can help you out with a original correct taillight bracket for a 28 Tudor.

May also have the correct carburetor ?

Nice find, keep it original !!!!!!!!!

Ron Rude

[Neil Mylar LakewoodCA]

I'm glad to hear that the trim at the top of the panels is original for 1928.
I've had a couple of people who think that the color could be gunmetal blue, but niagara blue paint chips seem to be kind of greenish, also.

Here are 4 more pictures of the paint on the firewall and one picture of the paint below the gas shut off valve.

That was a good suggestion to look at the paint behind the instrument panel. I will do that when I get it home.

[Neil Mylar LakewoodCA]

Ron,
Here are 2 more pictures of the clutch arm.

I've also included a picture of the solid front cross member and the electric windshield wiper.

[Steve Plucker]

Originally Posted by Neil Mylar LakewoodCA

I am in the process of buying what appears to be a pretty original 1928 Tudor Sedan. I hope to have it home, next week.
Please check out the pictures. I can post more.
The date on the firewall is 8-27-28. The motor number is A418725, which was built on 9-13-28. Both Steve Plucker and Marco Tahtaras seem to think that the 17 day difference still makes sense.
There is an ‘AS 1939’ (Seattle plant) on the body cross member. The total 1928 production figure for the Seattle plant was 9348. I’m not sure if it was the 1939th car built at the plant in 1928 or the 1939th tudor sedan built at the plant in 1928.

There were 2968 Tudors built in Seattle in 1928...I believe that yours was #1939 and more than likely came down the assembly line apx. 2-3 weeks later past 9-13-28.

Pluck

The upholstery appears to be old and original, except for front seat covers. When I get it home, I will see what the upholstery looks like under the seat covers.
I am confused with the patterns at the top of the doors and side panels. Is it original? Has anyone seen that before?

So the "pleated" rear seats of 1928 must of reverted to just plain seats (no pleats) in 1929???

Pluck

There have been some changes, but they can be corrected. It has been converted to 12 volts and has a 12 volt alternator. The radiator is reproduction. It comes with a honeycomb radiator with an original shroud (I have an original radiator, that needs soder work that I plan to put on it).

It still has the solid front cross member, but someone has added float-o-motor mounts, which I will replace. It has a tillotson carb.

The exterior has been repainted black. I’m hopeful that it could be sanded down to the original paint. I took pictures of the firewall, the bottom side of the hood, the inside gas tank area and some of the interior window moldings. I would appreciate your ideas on what the original color might have been. Some of the areas appear green, but there was no green color in 1928, Could it be Niagara blue (light or dark) or possibly Gunmetal blue? The interior window moldings appear to be a gray color, as well as under the hood.

It has a tear drop choke rod, a working FM horn, a pistol grip emergency brake handle on the transmission. The front brake rods are non-adjustable (not sure about the rears)


I don't know if it has a multiple disk clutch. I could not remove the floor board to inspect. Can anyone tell by the picture of the bell housing?

The car was built at the Seattle Ford plant in 1928. In 1963 it was located in Corvallis, Oregon, as seen by a 63-64 Oregon State University sticker on the windshield. Recently, it was in the San Diego area.

It has a trailer hitch that is bolted to the rear cross member (taking the place of the spring hold down brackets).

Nice find Neil.

Pluck

I'm excited to get it home.
I'd love to hear your thoughts.
Regards, Neil

Nice find Neil...Sure would be nice to know the rest of the story behind the Tudor.

Pluck