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Duke · 04-06-2022, 07:05 PM

I just ordered new front hub seals and the leather national 5786 seal came. The seals I pulled out were the standard rubber seal. I know the originals were likely leather, but they were also made in the US. Should I return them and find some rubber seals?
Thanks

Krylon32 · 04-06-2022, 07:21 PM

I've used them many times with no problems.

aussie merc · 04-06-2022, 07:42 PM

good seals dont leak bad seals do leather/rubber/wick/ dosent matter just check the running surface for wear as you may need to fit a wear sleeve[speedy sleeve]

John R · 04-06-2022, 08:23 PM

Leather seals are a bit more conformable and might be preferable if the sealing surface is not perfect.

alanwoodieman · 04-06-2022, 08:56 PM

soak in oil before use is what I do and they last/work just as they should

Duke · 04-06-2022, 10:13 PM

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Thank you everyone!

deuce_roadster · 04-07-2022, 08:44 AM

Trivia info- The leather Ford script ones had CR stamped in the tin part which stood for Chicago Rawhide.

aussie merc · 04-07-2022, 09:00 AM

CR nothing shonky there good quality premium product

1948F-1Pickup · 04-07-2022, 11:52 AM

Spare CR in the box.......

tubman · 04-07-2022, 12:37 PM

I have always known there was a "Chicago Rawhide" Indy car. I could never understand what "rawhide" had to do with sponsoring a racing car. Now I know.

https://www.museumofamericanspeed.co...despecial.html

aussie merc · 04-08-2022, 07:07 AM

in the early days rawhide made the better seal as the oil grease would cause the material to expand and give a tighter seal yet were soft enough that it didnt wear into the shaft SMART COOKIES them old school engineer's

GB SISSON · 04-09-2022, 12:29 PM

I too have had good luck with the old rawhide seals. As a side note I picked up a one lung engine about 25 years ago 4hp whitte. It was complete and on a horse drawn orchard spray rig. The rod bearing had been pulled apart but the cap was there. I put a strip of rawhide about 1/4 x 1" in place of the babbit,
shimmed the cap with some formica scraps, turned down the grease cup and I still see it running at the show I attend every August. With the same 'bearing' and my shims.

04-06-2022, 07:05 PM	#1
Duke Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Vernon, BC Posts: 202	Front hub seal- leather? I just ordered new front hub seals and the leather national 5786 seal came. The seals I pulled out were the standard rubber seal. I know the originals were likely leather, but they were also made in the US. Should I return them and find some rubber seals? Thanks

04-06-2022, 07:21 PM	#2
Krylon32 Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 4,482	Re: Front hub seal- leather? I've used them many times with no problems.

04-06-2022, 07:42 PM	#3
aussie merc Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2016 Location: sydney australia Posts: 1,033	Re: Front hub seal- leather? good seals dont leak bad seals do leather/rubber/wick/ dosent matter just check the running surface for wear as you may need to fit a wear sleeve[speedy sleeve]

04-06-2022, 08:23 PM	#4
John R Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: near Washington, DC Posts: 559	Re: Front hub seal- leather? Leather seals are a bit more conformable and might be preferable if the sealing surface is not perfect. __________________ Those who do not move do not die, but are they not already dead?

04-06-2022, 08:56 PM	#5
alanwoodieman Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: upstate SC Posts: 2,963	Re: Front hub seal- leather? soak in oil before use is what I do and they last/work just as they should

04-06-2022, 10:13 PM	#6
Duke Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Vernon, BC Posts: 202	Re: Front hub seal- leather? Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements) Thank you everyone!

04-07-2022, 08:44 AM	#7
deuce_roadster Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Shelton, WA Posts: 3,800	Re: Front hub seal- leather? Trivia info- The leather Ford script ones had CR stamped in the tin part which stood for Chicago Rawhide.

04-07-2022, 09:00 AM	#8
aussie merc Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2016 Location: sydney australia Posts: 1,033	Re: Front hub seal- leather? CR nothing shonky there good quality premium product

04-07-2022, 12:37 PM	#10
tubman Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: Minnesota, Florida Keys Posts: 10,314	Re: Front hub seal- leather? I have always known there was a "Chicago Rawhide" Indy car. I could never understand what "rawhide" had to do with sponsoring a racing car. Now I know. https://www.museumofamericanspeed.co...despecial.html

04-08-2022, 07:07 AM	#11
aussie merc Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2016 Location: sydney australia Posts: 1,033	Re: Front hub seal- leather? in the early days rawhide made the better seal as the oil grease would cause the material to expand and give a tighter seal yet were soft enough that it didnt wear into the shaft SMART COOKIES them old school engineer's

04-09-2022, 12:29 PM	#12
GB SISSON Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Orcas Island Washington Posts: 4,929	Re: Front hub seal- leather? I too have had good luck with the old rawhide seals. As a side note I picked up a one lung engine about 25 years ago 4hp whitte. It was complete and on a horse drawn orchard spray rig. The rod bearing had been pulled apart but the cap was there. I put a strip of rawhide about 1/4 x 1" in place of the babbit, shimmed the cap with some formica scraps, turned down the grease cup and I still see it running at the show I attend every August. With the same 'bearing' and my shims. __________________ Owner/Operator of 'Jailbar Ranch' on the side of Mt. Pickett. Current stable consists of 1946 1/2 ton pickup turned woodie wagon with FH V8, 1947 Tonner Pickup (red) mostly stock with exception of a cummins 6at turbo diesel, 1946 Tonner Pickup (green) with 226 cu in 6 cyl flathead, 1979 Toyota landcruiser wagon, completely encased in 1947 Ford Jailbar sheet metal. Ok, cornbinder rear fenders..... 'Rusty ol' floorboards, hot on their feet' (Alan Jackson)