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10-19-2019, 08:46 AM | #1 |
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10-19-2019, 08:53 AM | #2 |
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Re: Patina makes this too good to restore?
Sorry, looks like plain ole rust to me!
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10-19-2019, 09:10 AM | #3 |
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I'd drive the heck out of that monster. I'd try to figure out a way to keep the tire stickers intact. [smiley face]
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10-19-2019, 09:20 AM | #4 |
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Unless you have been offered a part in the remake of "The Grapes of Wrath", a factory fresh rebuild would be awesome.
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10-19-2019, 09:23 AM | #5 |
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Jethro, you need to rub some more coal oil on there.
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Rather than a complete do-over, "original" is prized above all else . Do the minimum necessary to make it safe and inspectable for the road, replace with new only after proper "aging" to make it harmonious with the rest, and KEEP IT FOREVER. Or at least pretend you are. Comes to mind a roadster mentioned on this board. Someone replaced the doors with new Brookville doors, but painted the exterior of the doors to look like the rest of the car, including the spots of rust which were "simulated." Even put on the originally found door trim after doing some inconspicuous repair work and possibly an "alternate attachment." The object is to "keep it functional" - and as original as possible. Someone said - "They're only original once." Well - we can "help it along" a little can't we? Joe K
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10-19-2019, 09:37 AM | #7 |
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Not something I would enjoy driving.
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10-19-2019, 09:39 AM | #8 |
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It's amazing that after all these years...and being a big truck...that the body isn't all dented and torn
I wouldn't have the guts to restore it. I'd leave it cosmetically as is and go through the mechanical systems so that it runs, drives, and stops like it should and that everything works properly.
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that aint be no patina, but it be soon rot!
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10-19-2019, 09:44 AM | #10 |
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Note the Gas Cap. This is one of those "transitional" trucks with the Borg Warner 4 speed, a BW rear end, and made between Jan '30 and June '30.
VERY desirable if it has a high speed rear end. It may have an aluminum tag on the BW rear end 7-36? Joe K
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Rust itself is a good rust preventer, provided it's not submerged (e.g., inside door). Give it a good wax job and preserve history, I say. |
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10-19-2019, 10:35 AM | #13 |
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Interestingly....what's with the new tires?
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10-19-2019, 11:12 AM | #14 |
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Headlights are aftermarket, makes no difference to me, I wouldn't drive that piece of crap anywhere!
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10-19-2019, 11:55 AM | #15 |
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I sure hope whoever drives it can see through the “patina” on the windshield.
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10-19-2019, 12:00 PM | #16 |
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Looks to be modern in at least one respect it appears to have a nice sun roof.
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10-19-2019, 12:01 PM | #17 |
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I for one like it! It has character.
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10-19-2019, 12:28 PM | #18 |
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Clear coat it, make it drivable, enjoy.
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10-19-2019, 01:41 PM | #19 |
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Love the patina. They are only original once. Good rubber and restored mechanics and electrical with a nice seat, backrest, and windshield and off you go.
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10-19-2019, 01:44 PM | #20 |
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For me it is already 100 % restored with that front left tire! Fill it up with gas and just drive into the sunset.
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10-19-2019, 01:46 PM | #21 |
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With that much rust, it's likely the tires were rotted to rags. A couple new nuts too. If it were mine, I'd continue with mechanical repairs and leave it basically original, but see that it lives under a roof from now on. My Tudor was bought by my dad in 1954 and used as his daily driver for 5 or 6 years before going in a shed from then on. Taken out and used a few times a year, but still just a used driver from the 50's. I won't change the appearance of mine. Last edited by Ak Sourdough; 10-19-2019 at 01:56 PM. |
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I really like it !!! It looks better than most of mine when I got them .
I was able to do all the work on mine . I've got a rusty June 29 tudor named Gus . Gus looks like solid rust . If I use a scotch brite pad with water I can scuff off the rust and expose original paint . Rust can penetrate from the metal through the paint . That's not to say that all of the rust can be removed in that manner or that it will work on every application . The rust looks pretty solid and the scotch brite method probably would have little or no effect on your truck. I just thought I would mention the possibility for anyone who may be interested. Of course this wouldn't be restoration . This would help clean off some of the character without removing it all . |
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10-19-2019, 04:23 PM | #23 |
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Please don't confuse rust with "patina". Anyone who thinks its a good idea to leave rust on a Model A (or any vintage car) must not not live in a wet climate like mine. Rust is the enemy!
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10-19-2019, 05:22 PM | #24 |
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Restore it!
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10-19-2019, 05:29 PM | #25 |
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Keep it cosmetically like it is, it's perfect!!
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I love this forum!
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Picked up our van after all four tires were replaced. All four tires had the stickers on them. Never went back.
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10-19-2019, 09:32 PM | #30 |
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I ain't old, I just have patina...got it?
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I have a 1930 AA that the paint is faded and gone in places. Those places that are bare have lite rust on them and I keep it inside and give it a coat of WD40 every year to keep it from doing any further damage to the metal. A few years back some movie people came to our Model A meeting looking for cars and trucks for a movie. One person had a AA that was restored to like new. They wanted all of us that wanted to participate send them pictures of our cars and trucks. They chose my truck over the restored one.
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10-20-2019, 12:46 AM | #32 |
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Hmmm, just learned something! Here I was under the assumption that A's and AA's originally came from the factory with paint on them! Yet, I see comments to the effect that "they're only original once", so 'do not paint this truck'! Rust is "original"?? Who knew?
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10-20-2019, 08:28 AM | #33 |
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If you are going to leave it like it is please do not use the most overused term aside from "barn find".Many use the excuse " leaving it as Henry built it",Henry would never had cars or trucks leave the factory with surface rust or dented fenders or rodent eaten seats. He would roll over in his grave but he already did that years ago when the first Chevy V8 went into one of his early Fords.
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Id drive it and be proud!! Clean it up ,make it safe and drive the wheels off of that beauty!!
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10-21-2019, 11:08 PM | #35 |
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Linseed oil might protect it for a while, if you don't mind it going darker over time.
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Looks like I see daylight inside from the roof. Don’t drive in the rain!
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Brush coat with unthinned Penetrol.
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That's Fake News Patina I can see lots of brown primer there; look at the seat backrest.
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What you are looking at is the bottom of the seat panel over the gas tank that is in the open position. There is no primer of any kind anywhere on that car. It is all genuine Ford rust.
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Okay. There too much "patina" there for me but I'll take those apple green Model A wheels in the background.
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Make me an offer I can't refuse.
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Mine started out just like that. I completely went through it and made it mechanically sound. Replaced the roof, windows and put a good interior in it. I buffed the rust with a fine grade wire wheel(s) on an electric hand held drill and finished it with Johnson's Paste wax.
I have a lot of fun driving it.
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Have you had sex in it yet?
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Good lookin truck crosscut!!
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Nice find but it's just not my cup of Tea. One good thing about living up here in the So-Cal High Desert, ... No Rust. Right now the Humidity is at 7%. Regards Bill |
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Do what's right and stop the rust, if nothing else. I think it cries out for restoration myself.
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Put it on display next to a high points restoration and I think I know which one will receive the most attention.
Preserve it like it is and drive and enjoy it. You won't have to freak out when some kid drips ice cream over the Fenders.
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Watching "Grapes of Wrath" tonight - and there it is ! Actually it is a 1926 Hudson modified to look like a truck.
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