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Wily Kyote · 10-18-2012, 10:11 AM

I have a '59' engine that was rebuilt by a Ford authorized rebuilder in '60. It is marked as .10 - .10 - .10. What the heck does the third .10 relate to?

SUHRsc · 10-18-2012, 10:25 AM

Rods, mains, cylinders ???

Tim Ayers · 10-18-2012, 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by SUHRsc

Rods, mains, cylinders ???

I would guess the same.

David J · 10-18-2012, 11:29 AM

Wasn't 10-10-10 a couple years ago ? We get the final in the set this year 12-12-12 .

Walt Dupont--Me. · 10-18-2012, 12:08 PM

10 Mains--10 Rods-- I've never seen 10 pistons. Most pistons ar 20-30- 40- 60-80-100-125 ect. Walt

19Fordy · 10-18-2012, 12:28 PM

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Did you mean to say .010?

Wily Kyote · 10-18-2012, 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by 19Fordy

Did you mean to say .010?

Good point. I could blame it on old age, but, alas, I've been equally inept for the whole 74 years.

Henry/Kokomo · 10-18-2012, 01:34 PM

Like Walt says, .010 is an odd overbore size. Maybe cam bearings?? OMO

Bob NH · 10-18-2012, 01:37 PM

I know 10 10 10 fertilizer will work wonders in your garden ?

thirt4 · 10-18-2012, 02:04 PM

"10 Mains--10 Rods-- I've never seen 10 pistons. Most pistons ar 20-30- 40- 60-80-100-125 ect. Walt"
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My little flattie is the original 221 and the bore is: .045 over. And supposedly a Ford rebuilt size.
JW

Ol' Ron · 10-18-2012, 03:36 PM

Back in the day, you could find Chrysler products with this kind of undersize in their engines. Ford Industrial engine rebuilders in Patterson, went to .030 or .040 ( I forget which) only on Flatheads. If they didn't clean up they junked them. In the late 60's I was in their warehouse and saw hundresa of then on shelves waiting for delivery to ?? They had been rebuilt for Sears. They didn't rebuild Mercury (8CM) engines and discarted the 4" cranks. sold them to other rebuilders, I think. Saw a shelf full of them too, but our racing association wouldn't allow them.
Ahhh, memories.

Wily Kyote · 10-18-2012, 03:43 PM

It isn't the cylinders. They were bored and then sleeved back to standard by the rebuilder.

Zeke...PA · 10-18-2012, 03:53 PM

Guy had a stutter ! Zeke

rotorwrench · 10-18-2012, 04:30 PM

Maby it was .100-.010-.010. If they put sleeves in they still had to bore it for the sleeves. Just another guess.

Cecil/WV · 10-18-2012, 05:11 PM

You could take it apart and measure it??

flatjack9 · 10-18-2012, 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by thirt4

"10 Mains--10 Rods-- I've never seen 10 pistons. Most pistons ar 20-30- 40- 60-80-100-125 ect. Walt"
_______________

My little flattie is the original 221 and the bore is: .045 over. And supposedly a Ford rebuilt size.
JW

This was acheived by peeling out the steel sleeves and honing for .043 pistons. Very common.

gerrald meacham · 10-18-2012, 06:21 PM

these had floating bearings, could it be mains, rods , crank ? not a statement question .

Wily Kyote · 10-18-2012, 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Zeke...PA

Guy had a stutter ! Zeke

LOL. Yes. It comes with advancing senility. I sought treatment, but it didn't help the stutter, only made my nose grow.

gerrald meacham - "these had floating bearings..."

One would think so. But actually, this engine was rebuilt with 49-53 type crank and rods: individual bearings. Perhaps by 1960, rebuilders were doing this. This one was done by Fred Jones of Oklahoma City.

Dec211975 · 10-18-2012, 07:36 PM

In looking at the Ford Bible, Ford made some pistons in .0025 and .005 oversize, In the late 70s when I worked in a Ford dealership they refered to pistons as Red are Blue which designated an oversize, I don't know what red oversize or blue oversize translated to in size. I Googled it and came up with this referance to it http://www.428cobrajet.org/id-piston I think i was working on a 351M at the time, I know it was not a 428 Cobra Jet for what it is worth. Brian

Brian · 10-18-2012, 10:59 PM

Only way to know what you've got is to measure everything up. However, would the third 'ten' refer to thrust faces being 10 thou wider?

10-18-2012, 10:11 AM	#1
Wily Kyote Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 60	.10 - .10 - .10? I have a '59' engine that was rebuilt by a Ford authorized rebuilder in '60. It is marked as .10 - .10 - .10. What the heck does the third .10 relate to?

10-18-2012, 10:25 AM	#2
SUHRsc Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: near Hershey, PA Posts: 875	Re: .10 - .10 - .10? Rods, mains, cylinders ??? __________________ -WANTED- Pre-War Speed Equipment Davies or Morrison Intake Manifold 77-6050B, 81AS - 81SB - 99AS - 99SB 19AS cylinder heads

10-18-2012, 11:29 AM	#4
David J Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: St Croix Falls WI Posts: 2,080	Re: .10 - .10 - .10? *Wasn't 10-10-10 a couple years ago ? We get the final in the set this year 12-12-12 .*

10-18-2012, 12:08 PM	#5
Walt Dupont--Me. Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Gardiner Me. Posts: 4,200	Re: .10 - .10 - .10? 10 Mains--10 Rods-- I've never seen 10 pistons. Most pistons ar 20-30- 40- 60-80-100-125 ect. Walt

10-18-2012, 12:28 PM	#6
19Fordy Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Coral Springs FL Posts: 10,936	Re: .10 - .10 - .10? Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements) Did you mean to say .010?

10-18-2012, 01:34 PM	#8
Henry/Kokomo Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Kokomo, Indiana Posts: 1,731	Re: .10 - .10 - .10? Like Walt says, .010 is an odd overbore size. Maybe cam bearings?? OMO

10-18-2012, 01:37 PM	#9
Bob NH Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Meredith, N.H. Posts: 766	Re: .10 - .10 - .10? I know 10 10 10 fertilizer will work wonders in your garden ?

10-18-2012, 02:04 PM	#10
thirt4 Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Arizona, USA Posts: 288	Re: .10 - .10 - .10? "10 Mains--10 Rods-- I've never seen 10 pistons. Most pistons ar 20-30- 40- 60-80-100-125 ect. Walt" _______________ My little flattie is the original 221 and the bore is: .045 over. And supposedly a Ford rebuilt size. JW

10-18-2012, 03:36 PM	#11
Ol' Ron Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Chester Vt Posts: 8,860	Re: .10 - .10 - .10? Back in the day, you could find Chrysler products with this kind of undersize in their engines. Ford Industrial engine rebuilders in Patterson, went to .030 or .040 ( I forget which) only on Flatheads. If they didn't clean up they junked them. In the late 60's I was in their warehouse and saw hundresa of then on shelves waiting for delivery to ?? They had been rebuilt for Sears. They didn't rebuild Mercury (8CM) engines and discarted the 4" cranks. sold them to other rebuilders, I think. Saw a shelf full of them too, but our racing association wouldn't allow them. Ahhh, memories.

10-18-2012, 03:43 PM	#12
Wily Kyote Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 60	Re: .10 - .10 - .10? It isn't the cylinders. They were bored and then sleeved back to standard by the rebuilder. Last edited by Wily Kyote; 10-20-2012 at 11:25 PM.

10-18-2012, 03:53 PM	#13
Zeke...PA Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Delta, PA Posts: 525	Re: .10 - .10 - .10? Guy had a stutter ! Zeke __________________ Only problem with retirement is never a day off

10-18-2012, 04:30 PM	#14
rotorwrench Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: San Antonio, Texas Posts: 16,426	Re: .10 - .10 - .10? Maby it was .100-.010-.010. If they put sleeves in they still had to bore it for the sleeves. Just another guess.

10-18-2012, 05:11 PM	#15
Cecil/WV Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Gerrardstown, WV Posts: 2,265	Re: .10 - .10 - .10? You could take it apart and measure it??

10-18-2012, 06:21 PM	#17
gerrald meacham Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: FRANKLIN GEORGIA Posts: 158	Re: .10 - .10 - .10? these had floating bearings, could it be mains, rods , crank ? not a statement question .

10-18-2012, 07:36 PM	#19
Dec211975 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Monroe, Wi Posts: 247	Re: .10 - .10 - .10? In looking at the Ford Bible, Ford made some pistons in .0025 and .005 oversize, In the late 70s when I worked in a Ford dealership they refered to pistons as Red are Blue which designated an oversize, I don't know what red oversize or blue oversize translated to in size. I Googled it and came up with this referance to it http://www.428cobrajet.org/id-piston I think i was working on a 351M at the time, I know it was not a 428 Cobra Jet for what it is worth. Brian

10-18-2012, 10:59 PM	#20
Brian Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Masterton, New Zealand Posts: 3,832	Re: .10 - .10 - .10? Only way to know what you've got is to measure everything up. However, would the third 'ten' refer to thrust faces being 10 thou wider?