The Ford Barn

Fred A · 06-06-2022, 05:13 PM

With a somewhat early ID number of 5304..., I feel that the side panels should be of the first louver design. Fine examples of final design are abundant, but because of the supply chain issue, prices have really gone up. The first, early design panel is even worse. The theme of this car is "How well can I get it back on the road for less money" The high- priced components like the engine (59A) and running gear are what came with the car, then inspected. I work hard to avoid non- essential spending. I compensate by going to as many swap meets as practical. It is a slow process. So why the explanation?

I bought distressed early grill parts with hopes weld some of it together. Perhaps there are other guys that have gone this route also. A starting assembly with the rusty bottom panels riveted to the cross bar, may be the start of my assembly. The plan is to connect (weld) the best of the rustless donor bottoms to complete the panels. There is a question in here somewhere.

If others have done this, how did you hold the pieces together accurately for the weld? I assume the weld is at the base of the lowest louver, or where better? Would I be well off to remove the rivets from the cross bar? Something I've forgotten?

This would be much easier is I didn't want the earlier pieces. Were I to cheat this point would anyone else care? It may be like the ashtrays, another issue from the GAS department. Thanks: Fred A

Kube · 06-06-2022, 05:44 PM

I have repaired numerous panels. Sold a NOS pair of early panels last year. High bid was less than $100.
Fred, most guys don't care. Even more, most don't have a clue what is correct and what is not.

19Fordy · 06-06-2022, 06:05 PM

Fred, Do yourself a HUGE favor and save a ton of frustration and work by buying the side panels on Ebay. Very reasonable price. As they align the front sheet metal of your car you want to get them in the very best condition possible and correctly shaped. Their correct size and fit is essential.
https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_fro...anels&_sacat=0

You could sandblast the chrome, prime it and then paint.

Fred A · 06-07-2022, 01:34 AM

I'm still looking for a better solution. The LA Roadster swap meet will be a good hunting ground. The "shiny roadsters", not so much. Thanks for the interest: Fred A

19Fordy · 06-07-2022, 09:03 AM

Fred, If you do decide to repair and weld the louvred panels that you have, you will have to do it with the grille and side panels fitted in place on the car to make sure the fenders and hood fit properly.

If you do a Fordbarn Swap Meet SEARCH for "1940 Ford grille" you will see several pieces for sale. Contact those folks and ask if they have been sold. perhaps the seller may have acquired another set or know where a set is located for sale.

Fred A · 06-28-2022, 12:31 PM

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The LA Roadsters swap was well supplied with side panels, all late or repro late. Swappers and swap vendors felt much more welcome than before. So many empty swap spaces. Serious buyers were also scarce. Now that the club is back in control, I hope the shiny roadster craze is updated. Swappers won't get any respect if we aren't bringing in the money. I sold well only because I had the good stuff. Thank the Roadsters: Fred A

06-06-2022, 05:13 PM	#1
Fred A Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Encino California, near Burbank Posts: 935	'40 Grill Side Panels With a somewhat early ID number of 5304..., I feel that the side panels should be of the first louver design. Fine examples of final design are abundant, but because of the supply chain issue, prices have really gone up. The first, early design panel is even worse. The theme of this car is "How well can I get it back on the road for less money" The high- priced components like the engine (59A) and running gear are what came with the car, then inspected. I work hard to avoid non- essential spending. I compensate by going to as many swap meets as practical. It is a slow process. So why the explanation? I bought distressed early grill parts with hopes weld some of it together. Perhaps there are other guys that have gone this route also. A starting assembly with the rusty bottom panels riveted to the cross bar, may be the start of my assembly. The plan is to connect (weld) the best of the rustless donor bottoms to complete the panels. There is a question in here somewhere. If others have done this, how did you hold the pieces together accurately for the weld? I assume the weld is at the base of the lowest louver, or where better? Would I be well off to remove the rivets from the cross bar? Something I've forgotten? This would be much easier is I didn't want the earlier pieces. Were I to cheat this point would anyone else care? It may be like the ashtrays, another issue from the GAS department. Thanks: Fred A

06-06-2022, 05:44 PM	#2
Kube Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Wisconsin, USA Posts: 9,006	Re: '40 Grill Side Panels I have repaired numerous panels. Sold a NOS pair of early panels last year. High bid was less than $100. Fred, most guys don't care. Even more, most don't have a clue what is correct and what is not. __________________ "I can explain it for you. However, I can't understand it for you".

06-06-2022, 06:05 PM	#3
19Fordy Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Coral Springs FL Posts: 10,942	Re: '40 Grill Side Panels Fred, Do yourself a HUGE favor and save a ton of frustration and work by buying the side panels on Ebay. Very reasonable price. As they align the front sheet metal of your car you want to get them in the very best condition possible and correctly shaped. Their correct size and fit is essential. https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_fro...anels&_sacat=0 You could sandblast the chrome, prime it and then paint. Last edited by 19Fordy; 06-06-2022 at 06:25 PM.

06-07-2022, 01:34 AM	#4
Fred A Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Encino California, near Burbank Posts: 935	Re: '40 Grill Side Panels I'm still looking for a better solution. The LA Roadster swap meet will be a good hunting ground. The "shiny roadsters", not so much. Thanks for the interest: Fred A

06-07-2022, 09:03 AM	#5
19Fordy Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Coral Springs FL Posts: 10,942	Re: '40 Grill Side Panels Fred, If you do decide to repair and weld the louvred panels that you have, you will have to do it with the grille and side panels fitted in place on the car to make sure the fenders and hood fit properly. If you do a Fordbarn Swap Meet SEARCH for "1940 Ford grille" you will see several pieces for sale. Contact those folks and ask if they have been sold. perhaps the seller may have acquired another set or know where a set is located for sale. Last edited by 19Fordy; 06-07-2022 at 09:10 AM.

06-28-2022, 12:31 PM	#6
Fred A Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Encino California, near Burbank Posts: 935	Re: '40 Grill Side Panels Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements) The LA Roadsters swap was well supplied with side panels, all late or repro late. Swappers and swap vendors felt much more welcome than before. So many empty swap spaces. Serious buyers were also scarce. Now that the club is back in control, I hope the shiny roadster craze is updated. Swappers won't get any respect if we aren't bringing in the money. I sold well only because I had the good stuff. Thank the Roadsters: Fred A