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Old 05-26-2022, 08:27 AM   #81
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Atta boy, Chris! The only extra of the '32 version that I have suffered the same fate as Nate's, only on the opposite side.
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Old 05-26-2022, 08:28 AM   #82
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Thanks guys- thought on it last night and you’re all right; function over form, was looking for a good loophole to keep from replacing, which I don’t think exists. I may have a good bellhousing on the way thanks to Chris.

Currently waiting on the machinist to be ready for me, the radiator shop to finish boiling the fuel tank and radiator and waiting on my snap on guy to find me the heaviest puller he can get to get these rear drums off.

While the engine is gone I will be on a shopping spree. I’ll work on getting a semi-conclusive list of missing stuff in the cab, finish inspecting the brakes and get to ordering.

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Old 05-26-2022, 08:46 AM   #83
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David,
These dump truck guys have to stick together! The few, the brave, the ........ Ok just went off in the weeds!
I believe Nate is looking for some big boy wheels and lug nuts too. Anbody out there? I lost my lead from a year ago for some wheels in Mich. I didnt really need them so I passed on them. WIll try to pick up the trail again.

Nate I know some one that might be able to make some seat frames, Not show quality but might work for you. Springs from Snyder's worked for me. They can build custom springs too.

Will be interestd about your dash gages? None of mine function at this time but it really doesnt slow me down any. Amp gage is superseeded by a volt meter. The spedo cable is not in the truck and the 90 mph is probably not the right one anyway. Only have to worry about speed in a school zone! The gas gage, way over my head in complexity, so I just pop the seat off and look in the tank.

What was the original color of your truck?? Find paint inside the cab??
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I'll check to see if I have any usable wheels.
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Old 05-26-2022, 08:49 PM   #85
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Nate,
The bell housing intermediate part is in the trunk of the 32. It looks to be intact.
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Old 05-26-2022, 09:35 PM   #87
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These dump truck guys have to stick together! The few, the brave, the ........ Ok just went off in the weeds!
I believe Nate is looking for some big boy wheels and lug nuts too. Anbody out there? I lost my lead from a year ago for some wheels in Mich. I didnt really need them so I passed on them. WIll try to pick up the trail again.

Nate I know some one that might be able to make some seat frames, Not show quality but might work for you. Springs from Snyder's worked for me. They can build custom springs too.

Will be interestd about your dash gages? None of mine function at this time but it really doesnt slow me down any. Amp gage is superseeded by a volt meter. The spedo cable is not in the truck and the 90 mph is probably not the right one anyway. Only have to worry about speed in a school zone! The gas gage, way over my head in complexity, so I just pop the seat off and look in the tank.

What was the original color of your truck?? Find paint inside the cab??
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Chris- you will be disappointed by my dash. There’s almost nothing there but a shell of the ammeter. I do have a set on order, likely to be rebuilt but they haven’t made it yet. Refer to post #55 for some pics of my dash.

I also have the gas gauge to figure out. My sending unit had nothing hooked to it. So if I come up with anything I will let you know. These require a special fluid in the gauge correct? I would say my 32 ford books will tell me for sure but they haven’t made it quite yet either.

If you happen to have some measurements on the seat frames I’ll gladly take that information. Worst case I know a fella up in PA with some experience

Everything on this truck is a rust red. Even the few knobs I have so, I have a feeling, sometime in the past there was a spray gun involved. Under the tank is black, however, so that very well could be the original color but I can’t say for certain.
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I'll check to see if I have any usable wheels.
Thank you for looking KDL! With any luck this old truck will be a dually again in no time.

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Thanks Newc- I’ll keep this in mind if the Tunnel and gauges I have coming is beyond repair, hoping it’s not but options are both great and the way to keep moving forward!

Thanks all for checking in, it’s been a busy week in the construction equipment sales world. Been pulling 15k lbs+ all week, the neighbors are not my biggest fans sometimes. Hoping to dedicate some significant time to the project over the Holiday weekend and this coming week.

Hope everyone enjoys the unofficial beginning of summer!
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Nate,
If that is the guy from Albion, on the seat frames, he is a old curmudgin! Careful working with him! Will need to determine your top of tank shape details to accept new wooden seat frames. There are at least three different gas tank styles as I have been told. Might have enough ash lumber squirreled away to make another set? We will talk more about those frames. I know the seats are not a top priority, just a piece of the big puzzel. Glad you have the tank! But with seats at least you can set in it and make big truck sounds!
The dash gauges would be great to have working again. I will be watching.
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Chris,


Don't forget that depending on the configuration of the top of his tank, you already have an extra new seat bottom platform made and ready to use for the passenger side.


I also have a few extra new wood pieces for behind the seat back, if needed.
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I do have some big truck wheels I'd part with. I'll send you a PM with the details.
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David,
I have slept a couple times since then, do you have that extra gas tank side frame or do I have it? If you have it and want to bring it along for Nate, it just might match his tank??
Nate, well there go on the wheels. Awesome KDL!
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Chris,
I have it and will bring it along in case it fits his tank.
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I have slept a couple times since then, do you have that extra gas tank side frame or do I have it? If you have it and want to bring it along for Nate, it just might match his tank??
Nate, well there go on the wheels. Awesome KDL!
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I have it and will bring it along in case it fits his tank.
Thanks fellas- hoping to have my tank back in possession by this coming friday from the radiator shop; it is getting boiled. it was recommended not to etch and seal with any modern tank sealer. they have not had good luck with them lasting more than a year in the last few years.

KDL's wheels look to match up with mine, I sent him some measurements to confirm, hoping to be figuring out shipping after the holiday if all goes as planned.

I preemptively ordered a nu-rex timing wrench, I hear the 4's are finicky with the automatic timing so I will have the tool when I get to that point.

no dice on the rear drums yet. My snap on guy loaned me the biggest puller he had on the truck to see if it would work, stud holes are not big enough. still looking for a puller that will work, preferably without spending $300-600, so any suggestions in that department I'd greatly appreciate it.

I took the transmissions top-plate off to take a look, pictures below. looks to be in pretty good shape, some wear on one gear, which one I am not sure maybe third? I do not claim to be a transmission guy. I do have some slop in the shifter, seems to want to spin in the cup about 30 degrees rather than slide from side to side in neutral. any recommendations to try and tighten this up some?

Also stumbled upon another fellow in his twenties with a 32 BB out of Missouri. His looks to be in a fully restored condition so hoping to get a chance to talk truck with him soon!

Hope everyone is enjoying the long weekend
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I took the transmissions top-plate off to take a look, pictures below. looks to be in pretty good shape, some wear on one gear, which one I am not sure maybe third? I do not claim to be a transmission guy. I do have some slop in the shifter, seems to want to spin in the cup about 30 degrees rather than slide from side to side in neutral. any recommendations to try and tighten this up some?


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Nate,
Rear hub pulling.
I have some pictures of the old puller I used. In my thread near front?? I had to open the holes a little and I had to get some left hand nuts and modify them to get max thread engagement. A real good grip on the threads is important. I almost damaged a stud because it was not on far enough. These old pullers were on the web for sale.
Your trany looks as good or better than mine

I did tune up on my shifter to reduce the rotation in the shift lever. It,s all from wear. The pin, the socket have wear. All rebuild able with care. Just had my shifter out today trying to improve it too.
Remind me and we can review the things I did to improve my 60 degree shift lever rotation!
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Rear hub pulling.
I have some pictures of the old puller I used. In my thread near front?? I had to open the holes a little and I had to get some left hand nuts and modify them to get max thread engagement. A real good grip on the threads is important. I almost damaged a stud because it was not on far enough. These old pullers were on the web for sale.
Your trany looks as good or better than mine

I did tune up on my shifter to reduce the rotation in the shift lever. It,s all from wear. The pin, the socket have wear. All rebuild able with care. Just had my shifter out today trying to improve it too.
Remind me and we can review the things I did to improve my 60 degree shift lever rotation!
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Chris,

Yes I had hoped to touch base on your shifter improvements while you were in town. I’ll keep mine out on the table for inspection/discussion.

I did find pics of the puller you used. From what I found it’s a blue point 4567 hub puller tool. I believe the “new version” my snap on guy let me borrow is a blue point CJ129A, and I would have to open the stud holes on it. Good to know that’s likely going to be a common theme. Looks like the price is similar for the old version and the new version. So I may just keep what my snap on guy gave me and modify as needed.

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Old 05-29-2022, 06:36 AM   #98
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Hey Guys, I've never worked on a BB Axle, but was wondering if you'd thought about using a Oxy/Acet rosebud torch to apply heat to the rear hub area that encompasses the axle snout?

I would think that using some heat would expand the hub and help with the pulling operation. It might also heat up any old grease and help the overall process . . . is probably how I'd go about it.

If you're really putting pressure with a puller and things are not moving, would hate to see you crack a drum - they might be a bit hard to find.

Any 'Big Truck' guys here that have experience along this line?
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The insides of that transmission look pretty dang good!

I say that, even though I hate having to look at spur-cut gears . . . as I have never had enough experience driving those old beasts to know how to downshift them wroth a crap - regardless of my feeble double-clutch attempts!

I like SYNCHROS! LOL
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Nate, Dale,
I did not use any heat on my hub during removal., but was tempted to, when it was stubborn. May work fine? I just did not want to damage any of the innards.

I have not found any method to down shift these transmisions. They just dont like that at all.
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