The Ford Barn

Msaby · 05-30-2013, 07:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by marc hildebrant

Msaby,

I would urge you to get the Model A owners manual and other Model A books and THEN ask for help on the Barn.

In that manner, you can compare the answers....

Marc

I actually do have an owners manual along with a few others. Manuals are a great resource, however I also like to hear from individuals who have real world expericence with their "A"s

I will keep my questions on this forum at a minumum. Sorry for posting such basic questions
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Thanks
Mike

1931 flamingo · 05-30-2013, 08:19 PM

Msaby: Ask all the basic questions you want. They get others thinking.
Paul in CT

REByar · 05-30-2013, 08:47 PM

When I purchased my 1928 Model A I asked the previous owner what he had used. He said he used synthetic 10w30. . I had never read anywhere where synthetic was recommended. But when I got the car it had an oil leak. I know that is normal for "A"'s so I just put a pan under it. But after I had driven about 200 miles I changed the oil and used regular 30W detergent oil. After about 100 miles the oil leak stopped and the engine sounded quieter. And I use about 4 1/2 quarts and a cup of STP.

Good Luck. But I would not recommend synthetic.

Randy

Terry, NJ · 05-31-2013, 10:38 AM

As I said yesterday, we spend a lot of energy worrying about what oil is best when it is not necessary. These engines ran well on whatever crap they put in them. Remember these words, "The best oils of 1930 were not equal to the worst oils of today!" This was the depression! There wasn't much cash around for oil changes. Then came the war and there wasn't much oil around for oil changes. Plus there was a running argument over the value of oil changes. After all," Oil doesn't wear out! It's just a scam from the big oil companies to make you buy more oil!" Walmart's is fine.
Terry

marc hildebrant · 05-31-2013, 03:54 PM

Mike,

Re-read my post as you missed the point.
Basic questions or any questions are fine. It's your time and you can use it any how you want !

Your initial question indicated a lack of basic car info on the Model A and I have no way of knowing what you have for reference books....hence my suggestion.

Keep the questions coming and be sure and check the answers with your reference material.

Marc

BILL WILLIAMSON · 05-31-2013, 06:10 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Msaby

I actually do have an owners manual along with a few others. Manuals are a great resource, however I also like to hear from individuals who have real world expericence with their "A"s

I will keep my questions on this forum at a minumum. Sorry for posting such basic questions
.
Thanks
Mike

Michael, may I call you that, or is that what they call you when "THEY'RE" mad @ you?
Dog here, you DON"T have to minimumize your questions here, jist "FIRE" away Iffin' you encounter a coupla' GROUCHES here, jist "BLOW" them off!
I know Model A stuff, too, so if you want to by-pass Ol' Bill, jest ask me. You gotta' Dog? Me, I'm a Rat Terrier Show Dog I KILL rats & other RODENTS & even SNAKES! (I'm for hire, also $$$$) Buster T.

Mitch//pa · 05-31-2013, 06:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BILL WILLIAMSON

Michael, may I call you that, or is that what they call you when "THEY'RE" mad @ you?
Dog here, you DON"T have to minimumize your questions here, jist "FIRE" away Iffin' you encounter a coupla' GROUCHES here, jist "BLOW" them off!
I know Model A stuff, too, so if you want to by-pass Ol' Bill, jest ask me. You gotta' Dog? Me, I'm a Rat Terrier Show Dog I KILL rats & other RODENTS & even SNAKES! (I'm for hire, also $$$$) Buster T.

lol billy

Msaby · 05-31-2013, 10:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BILL WILLIAMSON

Michael, may I call you that, or is that what they call you when "THEY'RE" mad @ you?
Dog here, you DON"T have to minimumize your questions here, jist "FIRE" away Iffin' you encounter a coupla' GROUCHES here, jist "BLOW" them off!
I know Model A stuff, too, so if you want to by-pass Ol' Bill, jest ask me. You gotta' Dog? Me, I'm a Rat Terrier Show Dog I KILL rats & other RODENTS & even SNAKES! (I'm for hire, also $$$$) Buster T.

Ha ha..No one has called me Michael in quite some time, although once in a while a family member might let one slip.

I belong to a few automotive forum and if there is one thing I have learned is always be polite, respectful, and appreciate all advice given. Being a new member here I wasn't sure if my questions were a little "basic" for the forum. It is all good though.

Thanks
Mike

BILL WILLIAMSON · 05-31-2013, 11:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Msaby

Ha ha..No one has called me Michael in quite some time, although once in a while a family member might let one slip.

I belong to a few automotive forum and if there is one thing I have learned is always be polite, respectful, and appreciate all advice given. Being a new member here I wasn't sure if my questions were a little "basic" for the forum. It is all good though.

Thanks
Mike

We have a GREAT time here, Mike,
Some of us are "pretty" good, but none of us know it "all"! Those so called, "MIRACLE" mechanics that everyone wants to hire is just FICTION! Gregg & the Dog considers me "pretty" good, but NOT God's gift to the Automotive World! If I were, I couldn't fit my HEAD under Vermin's HOOD!
Vermin is most ready to "fire" after playin' RIP-VAN-VERMIN, since 1987!!! (OH! JOY!) Bill W.

BobbyG · 06-02-2013, 02:22 AM

Never too basic for me - been arsing about with old cars for 35 years & still learning !

Ted Duke · 06-02-2013, 08:06 PM

There is NEVER agreement on weight, detergent, non-detergent, brand. Is there?

Timberbeast · 06-03-2013, 02:19 PM

If your engine has been using non detergent oil I wouldn't use detergent oil until I drop the pan and clean out any accumulated sludge.

A detergent oil will loosen the sludge and sent this muck through the engine. Not good for the bearings.

31 A4door · 06-03-2013, 02:34 PM

Sorry I guess I should have been a little more specific as to what weight oil should be used. i didn't mean to create a debate between any members.

HA that's the funniest thing.. Not making fun but it always brings out he same argument no matter what forum you look at. Don't ever ask "What Oil" in a Model T forum, OMG it will go on for days. LOL

My opinion is change it out with whatever brand you like. I use a multi grade oil so it flows well when the engine is cold and flows the same when it's hot.

ronn · 06-03-2013, 02:36 PM

synthetic....

anybody screaming yet....?

Sparky · 06-03-2013, 03:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by baquetA1929

As you can tell equals liters? "install 4 1/2 quarts"

It's nearly the same. 4.5 quarts = 4.26 liters.

leadpot · 06-04-2013, 07:25 AM

Why diesel oil??

Sparky · 06-04-2013, 02:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by leadpot

Why diesel oil??

Some people like to use it because it has higher levels of ZDDP (Zinc dialkyldithiophosphate) anti-wear additive than regular oils, which may make cams and tappets last longer.

1931 flamingo · 06-04-2013, 05:43 PM

ZDDP not really needed in an A with the low valve spring pressure. JMO
Paul in CT

John S · 06-04-2013, 06:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1931 flamingo

ZDDP not really needed in an A with the low valve spring pressure. JMO
Paul in CT

I tend to agree with you. The valve spring pressures are very low in an A. I still don't take any chances though and always use a zinc enhanced oil supplement in my cheap store brand oil. I change my oil about 3 times a year and figure it's a low price to pay for peace of mind.

Mike/Nebraska · 04-22-2017, 10:08 PM

Castrol has a zinc infused racing oil

05-30-2013, 08:19 PM	#22
1931 flamingo Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: new britain,ct 06052 Posts: 9,390	Re: Oil change Msaby: Ask all the basic questions you want. They get others thinking. Paul in CT

05-30-2013, 08:47 PM	#23
REByar Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Ft.Mill, south carolina Posts: 52	Re: Oil change When I purchased my 1928 Model A I asked the previous owner what he had used. He said he used synthetic 10w30. . I had never read anywhere where synthetic was recommended. But when I got the car it had an oil leak. I know that is normal for "A"'s so I just put a pan under it. But after I had driven about 200 miles I changed the oil and used regular 30W detergent oil. After about 100 miles the oil leak stopped and the engine sounded quieter. And I use about 4 1/2 quarts and a cup of STP. Good Luck. But I would not recommend synthetic. Randy

05-31-2013, 10:38 AM	#24
Terry, NJ Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Bucks Co, Pa Posts: 3,740	Re: Oil change As I said yesterday, we spend a lot of energy worrying about what oil is best when it is not necessary. These engines ran well on whatever crap they put in them. Remember these words, "The best oils of 1930 were not equal to the worst oils of today!" This was the depression! There wasn't much cash around for oil changes. Then came the war and there wasn't much oil around for oil changes. Plus there was a running argument over the value of oil changes. After all," Oil doesn't wear out! It's just a scam from the big oil companies to make you buy more oil!" Walmart's is fine. Terry

05-31-2013, 03:54 PM	#25
marc hildebrant Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Cape Cod Posts: 1,128	Re: Oil change Mike, Re-read my post as you missed the point. Basic questions or any questions are fine. It's your time and you can use it any how you want ! Your initial question indicated a lack of basic car info on the Model A and I have no way of knowing what you have for reference books....hence my suggestion. Keep the questions coming and be sure and check the answers with your reference material. Marc

06-02-2013, 02:22 AM	#30
BobbyG Senior Member Join Date: May 2012 Posts: 240	Re: Oil change Never too basic for me - been arsing about with old cars for 35 years & still learning !

06-02-2013, 08:06 PM	#31
Ted Duke Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Fairfield, Virginia Posts: 615	Re: Oil change There is NEVER agreement on weight, detergent, non-detergent, brand. Is there?

06-03-2013, 02:19 PM	#32
Timberbeast Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Fenton, Missouri Posts: 45	Re: Oil change If your engine has been using non detergent oil I wouldn't use detergent oil until I drop the pan and clean out any accumulated sludge. A detergent oil will loosen the sludge and sent this muck through the engine. Not good for the bearings.

06-03-2013, 02:34 PM	#33
31 A4door Senior Member Join Date: May 2013 Location: washington Posts: 102	Re: Oil change Sorry I guess I should have been a little more specific as to what weight oil should be used. i didn't mean to create a debate between any members. HA that's the funniest thing.. Not making fun but it always brings out he same argument no matter what forum you look at. Don't ever ask "What Oil" in a Model T forum, OMG it will go on for days. LOL My opinion is change it out with whatever brand you like. I use a multi grade oil so it flows well when the engine is cold and flows the same when it's hot.

06-03-2013, 02:36 PM	#34
ronn Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: NNNNNNNNJJJJJJJJJJ Posts: 6,787	Re: Oil change synthetic.... anybody screaming yet....?

06-04-2013, 07:25 AM	#36
leadpot Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Blanchester, Ohio Posts: 109	Re: Oil change Why diesel oil??

06-04-2013, 05:43 PM	#38
1931 flamingo Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: new britain,ct 06052 Posts: 9,390	Re: Oil change ZDDP not really needed in an A with the low valve spring pressure. JMO Paul in CT

04-22-2017, 10:08 PM	#40
Mike/Nebraska Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Eastern, Nebraska Posts: 354	Re: Oil change Castrol has a zinc infused racing oil