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3twinridges · 12-27-2021, 09:34 PM

Rebuilding a 226, all machine work done and ready to assemble. Two questions:

1. For the gaskets, would it be recommended to just use grease or use a sealant? This engine has lots of gaskets on the block that could be sources for leaks.

2. For the bearings, I have both NOS and new egge bearings, which one is recommended?

Thanks
JB

GB SISSON · 12-27-2021, 09:57 PM

Some questions are easy... For me those are both tough. Egge is well known for pistons...But what could be better than NOS ford? And gaskets... grease if you think you may have to go back in. Yikes, and sealant if it's a done deal.

3twinridges · 12-27-2021, 10:10 PM

Thanks bud, I know, we are back and forth on both. Tough call on the sealant but I think we will use the NOS bearings.

I had a third question - on the main bearing retainers. They are positioned so that the tangs for the bearings are on the same side of the block I believe but looking to confirm that.

Appreciate it.

JB

mercman from oz · 12-27-2021, 10:12 PM

226 Ford Six - 3twinridges

Brian · 12-27-2021, 10:28 PM

Only problem I see is that with the timing cover in place, you'll not be able to see the timing marks. Yes, tang to tang

GB SISSON · 12-27-2021, 11:06 PM

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My 226 H is a solid runner I acquired that way. It's on a run stand now and I should be driving around with it in early spring. I never got deep inside it.

3twinridges · 12-28-2021, 08:03 PM

I installed the main bearings and crankshaft today. Bearing clearances are between .002 and .0015. Timing cover and pulley installed. I did take the pulley off to align the crank and cam gear. The rope seals were tough but I think we did ok. They did tighten the crank up, it takes about 25-30 lbs to turn it over.

JB

sugarmaker · 12-28-2021, 08:21 PM

Looks great!
I personally use sealant on the gaskets.
No recommendations on the bearings from me. My guess is that they are both good. I might go with the NOS unless someone has better recommendation? Your detailed work looks great!
Thanks for the pictures!
Regards,
Chris

3twinridges · 12-28-2021, 08:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sugarmaker

Looks great!
I personally use sealant on the gaskets.
No recommendations on the bearings from me. My guess is that they are both good. I might go with the NOS unless someone has better recommendation? Your detailed work looks great!
Thanks for the pictures!
Regards,
Chris

Thanks bud, I did use grease. I used right stuff in a couple of places were joints are. It’s a good thing too, because right before I installed the damper I realized I left the oil slinger out and had to reassemble it.

I am going to use sealant on the water pump and thermostat housing.

JB

3twinridges · 12-29-2021, 07:08 PM

Got # 1 piston and rod in tonight. Bearing clearance looked fine at about .0015-.002. The ring gap was .007 and I didn’t file it. Spec is between .007 and .047 so I am within spec.

Still turns over fine.

JB

GB SISSON · 12-29-2021, 08:25 PM

Assembling an engine is something I love to do. It can also be a bit stressful, or even more than a bit. Your clearances sound great and I'm a plastigauge junkie, mainly because I am often doing this with used but excellent parts. I can't say enough about how beautiful the block and new parts look contrasting with that red paint. I am really enjoying this thread about your six!

3twinridges · 12-29-2021, 08:30 PM

It is stressful bud. I realized after I posted my update that the one step I missed on the ring assembly was making sure I had them with top up so #1 has to come back out tomorrow. The compression rings have a top up marking. Dang!

JB

12-27-2021, 09:57 PM	#2
GB SISSON Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Orcas Island Washington Posts: 4,940	Re: 226 rebuild questions Some questions are easy... For me those are both tough. Egge is well known for pistons...But what could be better than NOS ford? And gaskets... grease if you think you may have to go back in. Yikes, and sealant if it's a done deal. __________________ Owner/Operator of 'Jailbar Ranch' on the side of Mt. Pickett. Current stable consists of 1946 1/2 ton pickup turned woodie wagon with FH V8, 1947 Tonner Pickup (red) mostly stock with exception of a cummins 6at turbo diesel, 1946 Tonner Pickup (green) with 226 cu in 6 cyl flathead, 1979 Toyota landcruiser wagon, completely encased in 1947 Ford Jailbar sheet metal. Ok, cornbinder rear fenders..... 'Rusty ol' floorboards, hot on their feet' (Alan Jackson)

12-27-2021, 10:10 PM	#3
3twinridges Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2015 Posts: 547	Re: 226 rebuild questions Thanks bud, I know, we are back and forth on both. Tough call on the sealant but I think we will use the NOS bearings. I had a third question - on the main bearing retainers. They are positioned so that the tangs for the bearings are on the same side of the block I believe but looking to confirm that. Appreciate it. JB

12-27-2021, 10:12 PM	#4
mercman from oz Senior Member Join Date: May 2012 Location: Queensland, Australia Posts: 10,373	Re: 226 rebuild questions 226 Ford Six - 3twinridges

12-27-2021, 10:28 PM	#5
Brian Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Masterton, New Zealand Posts: 3,834	Re: 226 rebuild questions Only problem I see is that with the timing cover in place, you'll not be able to see the timing marks. Yes, tang to tang __________________ Unfortunately, two half wits don't make a whole wit!

12-27-2021, 11:06 PM	#6
GB SISSON Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Orcas Island Washington Posts: 4,940	Re: 226 rebuild questions Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements) My 226 H is a solid runner I acquired that way. It's on a run stand now and I should be driving around with it in early spring. I never got deep inside it. __________________ Owner/Operator of 'Jailbar Ranch' on the side of Mt. Pickett. Current stable consists of 1946 1/2 ton pickup turned woodie wagon with FH V8, 1947 Tonner Pickup (red) mostly stock with exception of a cummins 6at turbo diesel, 1946 Tonner Pickup (green) with 226 cu in 6 cyl flathead, 1979 Toyota landcruiser wagon, completely encased in 1947 Ford Jailbar sheet metal. Ok, cornbinder rear fenders..... 'Rusty ol' floorboards, hot on their feet' (Alan Jackson)

12-28-2021, 08:21 PM	#8
sugarmaker Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2016 Location: Albion PA Posts: 1,677	Re: 226 rebuild questions Looks great! I personally use sealant on the gaskets. No recommendations on the bearings from me. My guess is that they are both good. I might go with the NOS unless someone has better recommendation? Your detailed work looks great! Thanks for the pictures! Regards, Chris __________________ 1932 AAB Truck 1953 Ford Jubilee 2015 Ford F250 SuperCrew Lots of Allis tractors Some Cub Cadets

12-29-2021, 07:08 PM	#10
3twinridges Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2015 Posts: 547	Re: 226 rebuild questions Got # 1 piston and rod in tonight. Bearing clearance looked fine at about .0015-.002. The ring gap was .007 and I didn’t file it. Spec is between .007 and .047 so I am within spec. Still turns over fine. JB

12-29-2021, 08:25 PM	#11
GB SISSON Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Orcas Island Washington Posts: 4,940	Re: 226 rebuild questions Assembling an engine is something I love to do. It can also be a bit stressful, or even more than a bit. Your clearances sound great and I'm a plastigauge junkie, mainly because I am often doing this with used but excellent parts. I can't say enough about how beautiful the block and new parts look contrasting with that red paint. I am really enjoying this thread about your six! __________________ Owner/Operator of 'Jailbar Ranch' on the side of Mt. Pickett. Current stable consists of 1946 1/2 ton pickup turned woodie wagon with FH V8, 1947 Tonner Pickup (red) mostly stock with exception of a cummins 6at turbo diesel, 1946 Tonner Pickup (green) with 226 cu in 6 cyl flathead, 1979 Toyota landcruiser wagon, completely encased in 1947 Ford Jailbar sheet metal. Ok, cornbinder rear fenders..... 'Rusty ol' floorboards, hot on their feet' (Alan Jackson)

12-29-2021, 08:30 PM	#12
3twinridges Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2015 Posts: 547	Re: 226 rebuild questions It is stressful bud. I realized after I posted my update that the one step I missed on the ring assembly was making sure I had them with top up so #1 has to come back out tomorrow. The compression rings have a top up marking. Dang! JB