Model A items to be worked on at the 2016 Redneck Roundup

[RockHillWill]

I have learned that there is a fairly large number of Model A folks (several on this site) that are into metal shaping and I am posting this info as an update to posts that I have been making on some other metal shaping related sites regarding my hosting of the third annual Redneck Roundup. We will be working on several Model A fenders, hood and I hope that the aluminum bodied Speedster will get some attention this year as well.

This event has been so popular, that the size of my shop has forced me to limit attendance, and even though this years Redneck Roundup is full, I want to update info for those that are going to be in attendance.

It's getting closer and the excitement for me is building. In addition to both of Per's (Metalman Sweden) classes with the Nebraskan 'Patman' about the Pullmax machine 'tips and tricks' and pattern and buck making, it has been confirmed that 'Pedalcar' Ben from the Netherlands, will be debuting his new fixed stroke 'MecHammer' at this event. He is having them made here in the US now. Bill Lonyard, author of several metal shapiong books, will be in attendance (he will bring some books to sell and autograph). Craig Peterson with Dagger tools has confirmed that he will be attending and will have an assortment of his tools for sale and has generously donated (AGAIN) some of the much sought after door prizes that he has been kind enough to provide. Craigs travel companion Mike 'Motage' is an engine builder for Roush Racing. Other door prizes have also been offered by Mike Yurko, the parts manager at Front Row Motorsports in Mooresville, N.C. The Front Row Motorsports team is switching both chassis and motor suppliers next year with a re-aligned driver combination and his attendance will be subject to a very HEAVY shop workload. (We all hope you can make it Mike). I have also invited another friend of mine, Ron Reedy, who is the gentleman that is the manager of the chassis and body fabrication department at Hendricks Motorsports. At the current time I am also expecting to see Joe and Peggy Andrews from Hoosier Profiles and have asked that he might give us all a rundown on what makes the Hoosier Profile wheeling machine upper wheels and lower anvils such a sought after product. Perhaps he will also share some of his other products and bring some for sale as well.

I am optimistic that both Kerry Pinkerton with his Imperial wheeling machine will be there, and it is also a possibility that Jimmy Matthews will have his Australian build 'Handbuilt' cast wheeling machine there as well. I will also have a table available for gas welding aluminum, two wooden stumps, two planishing hammers, a P5, a P7, brake and shear, and several work tables for some smaller projects. I am getting some parts together to make a hand forming 'roll-bender' in the event that Jim Hery will be bringing the Buggati gas tank panels that I made so we can bend them on it. I will have a number of smaller projects to work on for the Speedster project as well.

I will shortly be approaching those, who in the past, were kind enough to provide door prizes as well. We have been treated very kindly in the past by the generosity of many of the visitors of this site and metal shaping enthusiasts.

[RockHillWill]

It's official, now! The official planning meal of ol' country style BBQ is underway. You guys that have signed up for Per's class, assisted by Patman are in for a HUGE treat. MANY tips and tricks are on the way. For days now, I have been receiving shipments of tooling and pieces and materials used for their upcoming class, and both these gentlemen have been planning for months to prepare for this event. I will try to post pics as often as possible. We will be going to the Front Row Motorsports race car shop on Sunday to meet with Mike Yorko, pick up his contribution to the tool exchange, and Mike has also offered additional door prizes for this years event.

There are going to be a number of Model A metal parts worked on at this years event, in addition to the Bugatti parts and some assorted 'projects' as well, including a new way to quickly make 'epoxy' dies for use in the Pullmax, and other fixed stroke machines that one of the attendees has made for use on a Model a door body lines. It's an extremely unique and cost effective approach to character line building.

Ryan, if you feel that this is too far off topic, please advise and I will discontinue at any time. My past experience in restoring Model A's has led me to this metal shaping segment of auto restoration, and I just wanted to share it with others that have helped me along the way.

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[C26Pinelake]

Would a private email list not serve you better ? Wayne

[RockHillWill]

Day two of the Redneck Roundup preparations. The various photos show 'Patman' Pat Brubaker fabricating a sheet metal roll forming tool that was designed to aid in the forming of Jim Herys Bugatti gas tank build. Per is putting the final tuning of the shrinker and stretcher die sets that I acquired from him for the motorized kick shrinker. They are MUCH smoother now in their new appearance, and they move the metal through noticeably smoother as well. Per is also shown doing the initial forming of the tail section on the speedster. Per and Pat had a better idea for that section and I really like how it is turning out. Also, my good friend Paul Crosby came by and helped most of the day with the final body installation that was 'muddled' by a minor misalignment in the long exhaust pipe and having to make a part to final install the brake pedal assembly that was made necessary by moving the brake pedal to the right side of the bell housing and reversing the service brake cross shaft installation. Clearance with the emergency brake actuating arm was tight and took several moments of 'tweaking'. It took several trips to local eating establishments to get it all figured out.

Clint Button http://carolinasculpturestudio.com has agreed to show how to scale down and replicate a smaller version of an existing object (car) to make a smaller version. That will be presented on Friday.


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[Wick]

Great pictures.

[RockHillWill]

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Thanks, Wick. They would be much improved if you were in some of them, LOL.

here is a link posted by 'MetalmanSweden' last night as he uses the English wheel to install an offset to allow that tail panel to be inserted in behind the side rear panels on the speedster.

http://youtu.be/sUuHTV4KHzg

[RockHillWill]

The guys and I took the day off to enjoy a visit to meet up north to meet with Mike and Sue Yurko at the front Row Motorsports complex just north of Statesville, N.C. What an accommodating couple of genuine folks, who took time out of their Valentines Day and 25th Wedding Anniversary to host our visit thru the race shop. THANKS, Sue, for giving us grownup guys time to be little boys for awhile.

The shop was empty of completed cars, as they were lining up and getting ready to qualify in Daytona as we were making our tour of the shop. Chris Buescher in the #34 car qualified 28th and landon Castill came in the 35th spot in the #38 car. David Gillinad was 38th in the #35 car as well. There were many new NASCAR mandated changes and it is Mikes job to keep abreast of the changes and acquire the pieces and parts for every car for every race in addition to his machinists requirements. We saw the elevated full chassis dyno machine, the cars that were being readied for the upcoming Atlanta race and the West coast string of events.

We took some photos of the floor pan, fender wells and trunk and rear suspension areas, and toured the brake preparation area and the huge stockpile of 'pre-fab' body panels and a large assortment of carbon-fibre components. Thanks, Mike.

Mike and Sue as well as the front Row Motorsports Race team both contributed heavily to the Redneck Roundup door prize assortment, They have been very sought after awards in the past years.

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[RockHillWill]

Only two days until the first of the classes. You guys in attendance are going to be very happy. here are some more pics of the progress for classes and the Redneck Roundup. First group are various pictures of the wireframe buck made by Per that took only about one hour to build, The headlight 'ring' was being made later in the day by both Per and Patman.
Andrew Slater (SWTRacing) came by today and worked hard all day helping us build the stand for the (hopefully) newly arriving Tommasini wheeling machine. This stand look a little tall at 32", but we will mount the wheel, let the new owner test drive it and go from there. The new 'Aussie' style upper wheel has arrived and will be fit to the larger diameter upper axle when we get started on that project.
Another pic(s) shown Patman and Per reviewing Patmans fabricated lower die holder for my home made power hammer. It is very SMOOOOTH in operation. Picture of the upcoming building of a Model A door skin will be coming soon.

[RockHillWill]

Not much was done for the Redneck Roundup, other than getting the shop cleaned and ready for the classes being presented by Per (MetalmanSweden) along with Pat (Patman) Brubaker. You will be amazed at what these gentlemen with be presenting. VERY cool stuff! We moved the Model A to make room for the seminars and tidied up the shop. The pictures of the slappers are Per's work. He made them out of the front forks of my wife's bicycle. I am hoping to wait to tell her until after the Roundup is over. He did a nice job, though! Look - they are 18 speed slappers. The wireframe buck if for the classes this week.

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[RockHillWill]

People arrived early today in anticipation of the 'fun' that was in store for all. It was very interesting to see the way that Per and Patman had prepared their approach to the class. They each would do a similar thing in a dis-similar manner, and it was interesting to see the light bulbs going off as folks began to understand that their are several approaches to metal shaping and that only one idea was the correct one. You could see that the different approaches gave a clear indication of the concept, as opposed to learning 'one' specific way of doing things. That opens the door to creative thinking and was quick to give some confidence to those of us with somewhat muddled thinking as we had been told that their might only be a narrow way to approach a situation. Nice work guys!

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[RockHillWill]

More pictures from the second at the first class. MUCH information and the way they each approach the same problem from different angles has been very good in teaching us to learn concepts, not just process. Great stuff! I am fortunate to be in a position to absorb this metal shaping information. Much time was spent in anticipating result PRIOR to using a hammer or a machine.

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[RockHillWill]

Robert Robinson and Tommy Tyson signed on for another Day of instruction from Per and Patman. Tommy wanted to complete the model fender that was used in the regular class.

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[RockHillWill]

These photos are from the second day of Per's class. Much detail was provided in doing unheard of tricks on the pullmax and the wheeling machine. Simple ideas once they are 'digested' This guy is amazing. The last photo shows the dorr latch pivot for Jim Hery's 1935 Bugatti. Scott White 3D scanned the original on the right, and the new ones were 3D PRINTED, not cast or machined. Much faster and accurate.

I just got a phone call from Cass Nawrocki, and he is sending a case of his Newest book to be for sale for those in attendance at the Redneck Roundup next week.

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[RockHillWill]

Today was the last day of the training classes that were presented by Per and Pat. The Redneck Roundup will start next Wednesday, and several of the guys will be staying over to help get ready.

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[RockHillWill]

Classes by Per and Patman have been concluded and we are all getting ready for the upcoming 3rd annual Redneck Roundup. Not much went on today. Finished making a hood for a backup generator and began the building of a Radiator shell for Jim Hery's 35 Bugatti, cleaning up the shop and moving more things outside. In addition to Patman, Per and Jim, Jake Ladd is staying on from the shaping class to help get things ready.


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[RockHillWill]

Early birds working on the speedster and Jim Hery's Bugatti grill shell. Per made a die for the Pullmax that nicely does the exterior fascia panels. Brass material showed up tonight. Patman made another custom die set for my home made power hammer. He made an excellent planishing and forming die out of a hockey puck. Makes difficult reverses in seconds!!!!

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[RockHillWill]

First day of official working. Biggest surprise was the debut of Ben's new Mechammer, an outstanding piece of equipment, capable of extremely slow gentle taps to powerful punishing blows with a very subtle touch to the low mounted foot pedal. At the risk of appearing to be a commercial this was a VERY impressive and VERY versatile machine. You can vary the weight of the 'hammer', and the two complementary anvil holders are made so that if your either changing the arm to use or the die set for forming, there was no need to adjust the arm height. Just set them once and forget them.

Jim Hery took an extended amount time metal finishing the speedster tail section. It is abundantly clear why he has restored (18) Pebble Beach winners.

Stanly Lobitz prepared the greatest fried chicken I have ever had. I don't know if it was a special recipe or not, but it was all eaten before dark.

Here is a link to show some of the speedster work: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IMLWopalmUM

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[Logan]

Will, I wish I could be there. Looks like a lot of fun. We've been real busy at the shop the last month or so. I've been so busy, this is the first I've seen of this thread. Looks like a lot of fun, I'm definetly jealous.

By the way, is peters tour scheduled for this year yet?

[RockHillWill]

Logan, you would have loved to be here. This has turned out to a huge learning and laughing event. Very hearty laughter and talent in the same room.

Much more done today. Steve Hamilton gave an excellent class on general metal shaping and forming. Lots of Model A work. A Model A fender and assorted speedster work. Ben's MecHammer is still drawing fans and users. Some have already been ordered with various degrees of tooling, and it is a popular machine in the shop as we gain knowledge regarding its use. The wide array of tooling, speed and power has made it popular for plashing, shrinking, shaping and bead making. Ben showed us the developing that he is doing making louvers. The ones that I saw looked really nice, but Ben said he is working on making larger ones. AC Button displayed a very way to use inexpensive scaling tools to use to make a larger or smaller version of any object. AC is world class sculptor and it was way interesting to see the tooling that he shared with us.

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[Logan]

Will: when will Peter be back to teach a class at your shop this year? I want to be sure to be on the list of students attending the class.

[RockHillWill]

Hello Logan. Peter has not scheduled his class for this year, but has said that he will keep me posted. I see that you are doing extremely well in your new endeavors.

This was the last day and no one wanted to go home. What a collection of pleasant and talented gentleman! My shop machines have been updated and made much more useful than before. Patman updated my power hammer with new custom made die sets, Jim Hery updated and refined my collection of Vixen files, Per made me new slappers from my wife's front bicycle forks, Andrew Slater made a new hammer for me and a wide assortment of attendees made new panels for the first time and continued work on older projects. I received one of only 38 'wooden' shoes made by Ben Von Berlo . He made it on the newly designed MecHammer in short order. Ben is a wonderful gentleman in addition to being a world class metal shaper. I am not going to be able to correctly remember everything and every one at this time, but please know that I appreciate all those that attended.

We were once again blessed with a large amount of door prizes. Huge help from Front Row Motorsports, Mike and Sue Yurko, Kent White, Dagger tools, Gulley Performance, Fay Butler, Ben's Metalshaping, Per (Metalman Sweden), Custom Rides (Patman) and Ron Fornier. Many others stepped up and helped with some GREAT stuff to share with all the attendees. Steve Hamilton, Metal Union, Pat's Hot Rods, Bill Longyard, Cary Culpepper.

Stan Lobitz provided an extremely tasty Fried chicken supper for all of us on Thursday, we had a catered southern barbecue on Friday and today
my good friend Paul Crosby made a great lunch of hamburgers and hot dogs and then a special supper of Bourboned chicken, pasta, fruit salad, chips and a dessert. Thank Paul!

I am happy to mention that Bens MecHammer that he just revealed for the first time anywhere was acquired for my good friend Jimmy Matthews, I hope that means that I might be able to squeeze in some hammer time from time to time. I want to especially thank Ben for spending so much time with us and allowing us to use the new MecHammer. The more we all used it the more impressed we became with its ability to vary the speed and/or force, the selection of dies and the ability to change among them without having to adjust the arms each time. NICE JOB Ben!!!

We repaired a Model A front fender for Paul Crosby, then scanned it with a 3D printer. Scott White will modify the point cloud and send it to me in an .iges format, and I will make a wooden egg crate buck for it. We have previously scanned a sedan rear fender that I will also make a buck for. The water jet pieces that were made for the Bugatti door latch plates arrived on Friday and Scott White brought the 3D printed brass latch pivot bars and they fit together for the very first time.


Cass Nawrockis's new book sold like hotcakes. Excellent work Cass!

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[RockHillWill]

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[RockHillWill]

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[RockHillWill]

For those of you that were unable to attend the classes put on by Per and Patman you missed a surprisingly educational hands-on seminar about building many panels with an attention to panels for a fender buck put together by these gentleman. They stayed another day to weld together panels from one of the classes. They did an exceptional job of instruction and you can see the results. This was a particularly difficult panel; because of the small features and reverses. If you have an opportunity to attend a class by either or both of these gentlemen, please take advantage if that opportunity. It is important that this mentoring continue thru these younger guys as those with the skills and the willingness to teach are getting few and far between.

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[RockHillWill]

Jim Hery was instrumental in the work done on the Model A Speedster this week. His keen eye and immense talent, along with some help from both Per and Patman has stepped up this build to a new level. Subtle changes in a few locations and attention to small details have vastly improved the aesthetics of this build. Jims ability to 'finish' a panel is legendary, and there were many time during the week where there might have been 10-12 guys just watching in awe as he finished the rear panel and the tail 'fin' area. We started the build using a powered bead roller to install the character lines, but it was quickly pointed out that the Pullmax was going to be both quicker and more accurate in dimensions. The panels are either just sitting there, or taped in place, waiting for finish trimming and the installation of the Dzus fasteners, followed by the installation of louvers.

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[RockHillWill]

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I want to make sure that everyone here recognizes how much I appreciate the door prizes that were provided for the Redneck Roundup. Front Row Motorsports and Mike and Sue Yurko once again provided a huge box of racing memorabilia, accessories shop tools including some high end rivet sets. Kent White, AKA 'TheTinman' sent a very nice collection of his business offerings that included many gas welding aluminum items and there was a visible degree of jealousy when I handed out one of his famous 'green' aluminum gas welding lenses. Patman outdid himself by offering up for raffle, an outstanding 'fabri-cobbled' shop tool cart/stand. Per (MetalmanSweden) hand made a pair of slappers from the front forks of my wifes bicycle, one of which found it's way into the door prize 'bucket'. Craig Peterson from Dagger tools not only sent a very large box of his sought after wooden mallots and sandbags, but many other metal fabricating items as well. Craig also set up a table from which attendees could purchase more of the Dagger Tool line. Peter Tommasini sent an entire set of his metal shaping DVD's, and a fight almost broke out when they were handed out, LOL! Fay Butler, again sent some items including a set of large radius gauges. Ben Von Berlo, in addition to providing daily demo's of the new Mechamer II provided some of his sought after small radius gauges and introduced his new 3-D printed scribe tool set. Metal Union sent some hats and T-shirts. William Longyard and Ron Fornier provided autographed copies of their metal shaping books, and Jerry Gulley once again sent one of the aluminum airplane kits.

Santa Claus and the Easter Bunny provided some assorted 'goodies' as well.

Attendees that took the time to hand build some items for the door prizes include Cary Culpepper who made his sought after TuckPucks, Dan Shady brought some handmade items including one of the hand held vixen files and a slapper. Andrew Slater (SWT Racing) made several clever magnetic holders for the sharpies and Pat McKutchen brought some hand made aluminum file handles. The greatest single personal effort was provided by Stan Lobitz who had to overcome a number of 'roadblocks' to personally prepare and present the greatest fried chicken that I have ever had for lunch/supper on Thursday. His concerted effort will long go down in history showing that Pollocks and Rednecks can inter-mingle safely. Stan also brought one of his Polish soft drink bottles. On the bottom it says 'Open Other End'

Also, I want to say thanks to Cass Nawrocki for making available autographed copies of his new book.

[RockHillWill]

I just wanted to share the creative abilities of 'Patman' Brubaker that was on display at the Redneck Roundup. Patman sent this shop tool in advance of the classes and the meet, then offered it in a raffle and donated the proceeds to the Redneck Roundup. It is the greatest outpour of talent and generosity that I have encountered in my recent memory. I want to take this moment to sincerely thank Pat for both his talent and the size of his heart. Keep your eyes open and focused on this young man, as he clearly has a future of the metal shaping industry. Thanks 'Patman'.


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[RockHillWill]

I have never had such a good time at any metal shaping event. I got so absorbed that I did not take many pictures, but here are a few that I found lately. Folks were laughing at times so hard that they had tears in their eyes. The high degree of humor made most of us open up to not only listening and learning, but they were more open to sharing ideas as well. Everyone's ego was left at the door and there was no degree of overbearing and everyone was sharing ideas left and right. The tool exchange is always the best part of the event for me, but there were so many to pick from that I was engulfed in lusting after the next tool up. The photos show, among other things, the Bugatti grill shell buck. Other pictures show 'Patman' making a die holder for my power hammer that he is shown making a double reverse panel in the last photo. I watched 'Patman' do this in less than two minutes. Check out the finish. One photo shows a series of 6-RH and 6-LH Bugatti door latch plates. Cad drawings were mad on Thursday night and emailed to my friend David Bolding who delivered them to us on Saturday morning.

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