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05-02-2012, 02:36 PM | #1 |
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Flathead distributor "service"
Over the last three to four years we have made up and shipped well over 600 of the chevrolet conversion distributors to a happy group of flathead owners. (672 to be exact)
Over the years as we build these jewels we have made changes as we go along and its good to see one from time to time that has some serious miles on it. These changes could be finish, paint , machine work , advance limits right down to the contact point attaching screws being switched to stainless ( i hate rust). The way we lube the parts have changed and for the most parts all the changes have been very minor in nature and most changes lately have been cosmetic just because i didnt like the look. Oh well its been a good design for the most part !!! This unit came in today with some serious miles out of a flathead that the customer had broken something on the engine and wanted the distributor freshened up , recurved and tested for his new engine. A couple notes based on what i seen when i opened the box... The basic distributor looked very well, the advance weights still looked very new and the cosmetics looked good. I noticed that the advance limit ( back then a rubber bushing---today we use a brass bushing) has swollen just from engine fumes etc and i replaced it with the new up graded brass piece. The advance curve was correct but it did change it a little on the lower end and took a couple degrees out of the top end. The biggest no-no i seen was the primary lead going to the points was cut and a new end crimped on ( see pic) oops that one i hadnt thought about. I realize why you would neaten up the primary lead but ya can do that !!! The lead is a factory calibrated lead to drop the final little surge of voltage going to the ignition contacts after the coil drops and consumes the final shot of voltage... We suggest using a 1.5 ohm coil and a 1.5 ohm resistor on 12 volt systems. Using ohms law with 3 ohms resistance and a 12 volt battery would equal 4 amps current flow in the primary ignition system. ( perfect for this system) Voltage drop is ohms times amps so each would drop 6 volts in a perfect world and the voltage would be zero or close to it at the contact points ( actually approx .100 mili volts etc). This works well untill you start the engine. Two issues here as the voltage usually goes up to 14 volts and the resistors heat up. This allows the voltage in the calibrated primary lead to increase slightly. The calibrated (finely stranded) lead is our final resistor and consumes the final voltage drop eating up this excess protecting the points. Its not uncommon to see a street roder replace the engtire lead with solid 14 gauge wire !!!! Bad move for sure. Moral of the story is "DONT CUT THE FACTORY PRIMARY LEAD ", We install this factory lead for a reason... Item two is the condition of the contacts with some metal transfer , again pretty normal but maybe a little pre-mature on the example used with cut primary lead. It changes the capacitance in the system.......clear enough...???? |
05-02-2012, 04:01 PM | #2 |
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Good to hear of an "experienced" distributor coming back for some updating/freshing and appearing so good as it came back. Around here we use a vw coil with internal resistor as oppossed to a external type-Any thoughts on that? I want to have a conversion done for my engine-what do I need to do? 51 Merc with a 77b Isky cam
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05-02-2012, 07:51 PM | #3 | |
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I have your conversion in stock just call to order....317-487-9460 Ask for the flathead conversion with points etc....... |
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05-03-2012, 01:06 PM | #4 |
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I like the idea of the Chev dist. The hei style is so large and out of place looking on a stockish flathead. Would a points style and msd box be a good way of going eletronic but more hidden. I want to use a duel intake I have and the stock dist. with petronics still has only the vacume advance? Your opinion is god here
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05-03-2012, 02:25 PM | #5 | |
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" friends dont let friends use MSD" Ok just kidding , however the design and the compression ratio of the flathead doesnt really need the features a MSD box can bring. The point distributor with a MSD box would run forever and the MSD box would take the load (amps ) of the system very well. Good idea... Replacing the stock loadamatic is a must do !! |
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05-03-2012, 03:23 PM | #6 | |
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06-06-2012, 11:56 AM | #7 |
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[BUBBA]... the design and the compression ratio of the flathead doesnt really need the features a MSD box can bring.[/QUOTE]
I was running an HEI ignition when I found a very clean MSD 6A for $60. I didn't expect to feel any difference at all, but I couldn't resist. I was wrong! More low-end torque was immediately apparent. Fifth gear (OD) now felt like fourth gear. I was effortlessly turning corners in fourth gear that used to call for third. It makes a difference. |
05-25-2012, 01:51 AM | #8 |
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Bubba i used a Blue Bosch on a 1 cyl. Royal Enfield i had a couple of yrs ago. Fantastic coil. Bike ran like a scalled dog.ken ct.
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05-25-2012, 05:36 AM | #9 |
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Ken , The blue bosch ( vw beetle) coil is a 3-4 ohm internally resisted ignition coil and one of the best out there . Good choice for a coil...
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Amazon has three for sale:light blue is $70, dark blue is $50, and another for $27 made in Brazil. No specs available. Which one is correct to buy ?
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05-02-2012, 04:35 PM | #11 |
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so i could install one of those resistive primary leads and get rid of my clunky external 1.5 ohm resistor? if so, sign me up...jack
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Nope the final lead is used with the resistor............ |
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05-02-2012, 07:14 PM | #13 |
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Didn't know the lead was resistance wire or that it was calibrated. What I learned today. Thanks, Jim.
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05-02-2012, 08:25 PM | #14 |
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Good Post Bubba !!!!!!!! Good point about distributor lead.
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05-03-2012, 08:59 AM | #15 |
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if i read the final lead with a ohmeter, what should the resistance be? thanks...jack
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Most auto parts stores sell these special primary leads for different applications. I stock a GM lead and a Ford ( later model ) lead .. |
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05-03-2012, 12:23 PM | #17 |
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Bubba
It looks like a Flathead dist, does it use same rotor and ford cap. Do you need a core or sold as is without one. Do you have straight axle on your F1,my 52 f1 does,nt like more then 55mph. I,d have to do something to make 100 MPH. |
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We made a tube axle for the truck an actually narrowed it a bit to tuck the tires in per air testing etc. We have ran 108 with the truck but caught the wrong fuel last weekend..... |
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05-25-2012, 06:11 AM | #19 |
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If you use the Bosch blue coil do I still also need to use the resistor that you provide with the chev dist conversion. Thanks Jim
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05-25-2012, 07:07 AM | #20 |
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No resistor is needed with the bosch blue coil....
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