1932 axel. Or well , maybe not

[1bali-rod]

WELL I MUST POST THIS CAUSE I THINK THIS IS THE PLATFORM FOR AN EDUCATION.

I AM SELLING A 1932 "HEAVY"AXLE IN THE CLASSIFIEDS HERE AND DURING THE MANY REQUESTS TO GET LOW BALL OFFERS, INFO ON WIDTHS,SPECS. REQUEST TO SHIP FOR FREE. I WAS VERY INTERESTED IN 1 QUESTION THAT MEMBER -"1934calkid"has?

here is the thread of questions an answers - please educate us FORDBARN.
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Originally Posted by 1bali-rod
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Originally Posted by 1934calkid
are you saying that this axle is heavier than a stock 32 axle ? I thought they were all the same ? thanks

1bali-rod -
1932 heavy axel is what they are called.
there is 32 standard axel
and 32 heavy axel-I believe from truck

1934calkid -
sorry but you are wrong, there is no such thing as a heavy axle or standard axle


bali-rod -
anyways . if you wish post a reply for us, please do. also I included the original photo of the axel photo I posted

thanks

[deuce lover]

No such thing as a 32 heavy axle.Whoever coined that phrase was wrong.All 32 pass car and pickups had or came with the same axle.The big trucks had a larger axle in proportion to the truck.For 1933 the axle design changed and interchanges.

[Fordors]

'32 axles for passenger car or commercial vehicle are all the same, the appearance of them is likely what gave them the "heavy" moniker. Although I never weighed one I would think they are very close to the '33-'36 axles with which they share the same king pin and perch hole c-c dimensions. Comparing your heavy (a common, descriptive term used by many) to the later '33-'36 the difference is in the flanges and web of the I-beam design, the web is flatter and the radius where it blends to the flanges is tighter. The web looks stouter and maybe that was where the term was derived from.

[JSeery]

"32 Heavy" is a common Hot Rod term, but not sure the restoration folks use it. Just purchased a 33 dropped axle from Okie Joe and would have liked to have had the Heavy because of the looks. The core charge for a 33 up axle is $75, the core charge for a Heavy is $300 I believe! I went with the 33.

Edit Note: I through the Heavy core charge was $300, I checked, it was really $400!!!

[bobH]

Wow... core charge on a 33-36 axle at 75 !! Swap meet price for a 33-36 axle in my area is around 10 bucks. With these percentages, I ought to be in 'business'.

[JSeery]

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If you can buy good axles for $10 I would think that would be a very good deal.

[deuce_roadster]

How many times do we have to explain there is just 1 32 passenger car and pickup front axle?
I believe it all stems from a rod magazine article which had pictures of all the axles and there was a typo on the 33-36 axle which incorrectly printed 32-36. Thus the birth of the 32 "light" axle!!!

[1bali-rod]

Originally Posted by JSeery

"32 Heavy" is a common Hot Rod term, but not sure the restoration folks use it. Just purchased a 33 dropped axle for Okie Joe and would have liked to have had the Heavy because of the looks. The core charge for a 33 up axle is $75, the core charge for a Heavy is $300 I believe! I went with the 33.

yep. i believed it was cioned "heavy axel" long ago by the original hot rodders. so the term 32 Heavy is very common and is here to stay.

and $300 on a core is why i will not sell any of mine for less that $400. original is the best and cost money.
thanks for the post everyone

[1bali-rod]

Originally Posted by bobH

Wow... core charge on a 33-36 axle at 75 !! Swap meet price for a 33-36 axle in my area is around 10 bucks. With these percentages, I ought to be in 'business'.

i will give $50 for every one of your $10 axels.

$50 doesnt buy much these days in California 2014

[1bali-rod]

Originally Posted by deuce_roadster

How many times do we have to explain there is just 1 32 passenger car and pickup front axle?
I believe it all stems from a rod magazine article which had pictures of all the axles and there was a typo on the 33-36 axle which incorrectly printed 32-36. Thus the birth of the 32 "light" axle!!!

Your guess on a misprint is probably right..However that bulky look of the 32 and the term(heavy) is here to stay.

[Charlie Stephens]

Originally Posted by deuce_roadster

How many times do we have to explain there is just 1 32 passenger car and pickup front axle?
I believe it all stems from a rod magazine article which had pictures of all the axles and there was a typo on the 33-36 axle which incorrectly printed 32-36. Thus the birth of the 32 "light" axle!!!

I would have to see the article to be sure but you need to remember that the same axle fit '32-'36. The '32 axle was unique but the axle released in '33 could be used on a '32 from a service (not restoration) standpoint.

Charlie Stephens

[DavidG]

The '33 front axle is also unique. The center section between the spring perches is the same as '32 while the ends are the same as '34-'36 front axles.

[Richard]

it looks like a 1932 axle from this 6 foot away shot

[1bali-rod]

Originally Posted by Richard

it looks like a 1932 axle from this 6 foot away shot

YES ,IT IS A 1932 FORD AXEL IN THE PHOTO.

SO I am just going to assume that the restoration guys don't like the term "heavy axel" ?. but just prefer to say 1932 axel.

- but is there a slight chance while in 1932 production that FORD used a 2nd version axel resembling the look of a 33-36 - less bulky, thinner look.?

I mean the same reason the 25 louver hood is rare is cause ford only produced it for like a month in the summer for overheat concern. i believe September -1932.

no getting upset here. just giving the ford barn a bit more of substance other than some of the elementary threads here.

[scooder]

1934calkid was correct. Plain and simple.
Their wernt a slimmer axle fitted in 1932, just that one, no heavy or light ones, just one type.
Its not just restoring types that don't use the heavy name. When I found out the facts about this axle, I stopped calling it a heavy axle, because I was wrong. To keep on calling an apple an egg, after your educated to the fact that it's called an apple, is stupid.
"faintest of chance that their was a 2nd version in 1932 that resembled a 33-36 axle"
Maybe, but apparently not.
It is what it is.
the above posts should educate those who are interested.
Martin.

[1934calkid]

sounds like you found out the answer that all 1932 axles are the same...

[1bali-rod]

Originally Posted by 1934calkid

sounds like you found out the answer that all 1932 axles are the same...

YES 1934calkid.
i see that a 32 axel is just that . a 1932 axel.

the term (heavy) is what i was originally focused on.-for selling purposes.

-from now on the term "HEAVY" is forever banned from my ford barn experience. -but i leave you with this last ID chart. -but just delete the word "HEAVY" please.


How to Identify Early Ford Axle



The different types of early Ford axles are easy to identify by referring to the picture, which was scanned from an old magazine article that was written by Neal East.

The 1928-1931 Model A axles have a uniform curve from end to end. The spring perch bosses are 2 1/4 inches.

1932 axles were the first Ford axles to be made with a slight drop. These axles are often referred to as '32 "heavy" axles. They are unique among early Ford axles in having a wider recess at the ends, and a slightly raised area on the front and back of the spring perch bosses in the shape of an I-beam. The spring perch bosses are two inches.

The '33-'36 axles have narrower recesses at the ends and along the center compared to the '32 axles. The spring perch bosses are two inches.

The 1937 V8-60 axles the only early Ford axles that are hollow forgings. They are flat along the front and back, so their cross-section resembles an oval track with short straightaways. They are relatively lightweight and not recommended for heavier cars. Their spring perch bosses are 2 1/4 inches.

1937-1948 axles are not recommended for earlier hot rods. All of the early Ford axles that were made from 1937 through 1948 have shorter distances between the kingpin bosses and the spring perch bosses. When these axles are being dropped, there is less material to work with, so they can't be dropped as far as the '28-'36 axles, and they don't look as good. Also, with the perch bosses being farther apart, this places the wishbones closer to the tires, making the trailing edge of the tires more likely to hit split wishbones on tight turns. Spring perch bosses on all '37-'48 axles are 2 1/4 inches.

[JSeery]

Originally Posted by scooder

1934calkid was correct. Plain and simple.
Their wernt a slimmer axle fitted in 1932, just that one, no heavy or light ones, just one type.
Its not just restoring types that don't use the heavy name. When I found out the facts about this axle, I stopped calling it a heavy axle, because I was wrong. To keep on calling an apple an egg, after your educated to the fact that it's called an apple, is stupid.
"faintest of chance that their was a 2nd version in 1932 that resembled a 33-36 axle"
Maybe, but apparently not.
It is what it is.
the above posts should educate those who are interested.
Martin.

Not sure I follow this at all, a 32 is called a Heavy because of it's looks as compared to 33 and later axles. Everyone who deals with axles that I come into contact with calls them Heavy or 32 Heavy axles. Don't see as there is a right or wrong to it, that is what they are called. Radius rods are called bones, a lot of rod parts have strange names. As for the 32s having Heavy and Light axles, that is a completely different issue as far as I can see, and if there never was a 32 light axle don't see how that changes the fact that 32s are Heavies compared to all the other years.

[1bali-rod]

Originally Posted by JSeery

Not sure I follow this at all, a 32 is called a Heavy because of it's looks as compared to 33 and later axles. Everyone who deals with axles that I come into contact with calls them Heavy or 32 Heavy axles. Don't see as there is a right or wrong to it, that is what they are called. Radius rods are called bones, a lot of rod parts have strange names. As for the 32s having Heavy and Light axles, that is a completely different issue as far as I can see, and if there never was a 32 light axle don't see how that changes the fact that 32s are Heavies compared to all the other years.

Thats Right!

[JSeery]

I posted in #4 that the Heavy axles core charge was $300, will I checked, and it is $400! That is why I ended up with a 33 axle. Still would have preferred the Heavy, but it was out of the budget.