Fast n Loud

[mrtexas]

If you can believe it, the guy on the show just sold an original restored 36 3 window that looked pretty good at auction for $33k. I haven't seen one that cheap before.

[bart78]

They are only worth what someone will pay.

[Woodie UK]

I guess we'll get that episode of the show this side of The Pond sometime in the next year.

Just wish he'd buy a woodie and the guy with the beard would get a shave!!!

Colin

[hardtimes]

Originally Posted by bart78

They are only worth what someone will pay.

Hey Bart,
Ha,ha...how true..and there was a heck of a crowd there to pay to prove your point!

[Ed Solari]

I noticed that the auction house of course egged him on to take the loss....given how he does other cars unclear how good this one really was

BTW I noticed Barett Jackson has dropped there NO Reserve requirement ...too many Duesenbergs goings for half price in the old "No Reserve Only" system

[bart78]

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These auctions are hit or miss. I did not see what all was there. If people are not there for cars like this. Then they won't bring the money. All so cars are not bringing now what they were a few years ago. It's hard to make money right now. For sure if you are living off your investments from retirement. We need interest rates to go way up. Until the economy gets better I think people will be holding in to their money. Or putting it into something that they know will make money. I have pulled all most everything out of savings. I can make much more money of cows right now.

[tdlmomowers]

If the 36 coupe was done like most of the junk on Fast and Loud, that was probably all it was worth. I don't understand how they could cobble up classic cars like they do.

[jkeesey]

Supposedly they didn't touch the 36. Just bought it and held onto it.

[ford38v8]

Originally Posted by mrtexas

If you can believe it, the guy on the show just sold an original restored 36 3 window that looked pretty good at auction for $33k. I haven't seen one that cheap before.

Hey Tex, I'm confused... What's the definition of an "original restored"?

I agree, the mess they make of some of the projects... It's all just for the camera, about as real as any other "reality" show.

[bart78]

Original and rare are the most over used words in selling old cars. It's like you see on ebay. Rare model a sedan. Everyone's is rare when they go to sell it. It's hard to find a original car. What constitutes original? Is it everything the way it was? Nothing being replaced or repainted? Or is it still all original parts that came with it? That have been redone or maybe a few nos parts thrown in.

[1931 flamingo]

It's entertainment..................
Would you buy something he built??
Paul in CT

[texas webb]

Originally Posted by 1931 flamingo

It's entertainment..................
Would you buy something he built??
Paul in CT

Sure! Seems like he's good at losing money

[bart78]

At least they show that you can't make tons of money off restoring cars all the time.

[296 V8]

A thinly disguised people drama show masquerading as a car show that’s only apparent goal is to make car people look like retards.

[Dave Mc]

After a lifetime rerairing & rebuilding Cars my Dad said " You can make a small fortune in this business,but you gotta start with a Big Fortune"

[jim1932]

It's like those survival and swamp shows where they say they could die there waiting to be found....yeah right. Bet the camera crew has dinner plans.... I have yet to see a car show I like. They are all about personalities etc. Like the show when they found an original olds and decided they had to rod it because they couldn't make an auction in several days if they had to rebuild the motor. Some producer idiot recently decided it would be more real if he lost money. Who the hell take most of their cars to an auction? I guess the same guys who take a rare item to a pawn shop and take 50% of retail

[bart78]

I think most auctions are for people just trying to make back a chunk of what they over spent on their car. With labor so high these days. The people that pay to have all the work done. Are the ones selling at a auction selling a car they have 80k in for 45k.

[peewee2you]

Yeah, I really like the show for the comical aspect, and they are great at losing money, but I'm sure that's one other reason they are doing to have the money to buy the cars they do and try and flip them for a profit. Like the Bronco? $55,000 really hard to believe even thought it looked good after the 88% rust factor and replacement. In the end the guy cut him a check for $45,000 still? But the show beats the time when there is nothing else on, anything related to auto's is up my alley.
All girls garage, Gearz, Truck U, chasing classic cars, wreck to riches, that reality show in texas? Texas car wars something like that. But your correct they kind of twisted his hand in lifting the reserve..., they say that usually get people to bid just that much more, but this time it didn't work out, for ol' Richard Rawlings, and Aaron.

[mrtexas]

Originally Posted by ford38v8

Hey Tex, I'm confused... What's the definition of an "original restored"?

I was referring to not a hot rodded mess like most cars they work on. Looked restored from the 20 foot brief glimpse and 36 wheels it had.

[ford38v8]

Originally Posted by mrtexas

I was referring to not a hot rodded mess like most cars they work on. I based this on the 36 wheels it had from the brief glimpse I caught of the car.

Yeah, I kinda knew what you meant, I was just pulling your leg!

[bart78]

Most of their cars are a mess. The 32 turned out to be a nice car even though it had sbc in it. I have heard the guy with the beard is a good builder. But when all you have to work with is junk Cadillacs and want to put air ride on everything. Stuff will look like crap.

[3738]

Realize he is probably getting $10k - $20k per episode from the network.... so the "real" money is getting paid to be filmed, regardless of what rusted out hulk they dragged in....

[mrtexas]

Originally Posted by 3738

Realize he is probably getting $10k - $20k per episode from the network.... so the "real" money is getting paid to be filmed, regardless of what rusted out hulk they dragged in....

Probably more...

[jkeesey]

Just checked out celebritynetworth.com or something like that and Richard is worth $8 million bucks. He had alot of other jobs before Gas Monkey and sold his printing company to start the garage. I read on another site he gets 25k per episode, not sure about the other guys. Apparently if you look into the company they do other things like total fine point restorations and basic repairs but the quick flip, hot rod stuff is more appealing to the general viewer.

[waynes50coupe]

Never would purchase from the show, it's entertainment, or a fact there of, the Mgr, seems to not know much about the mechanics of a classic, just a loud mouth...LOL

[37slantback]

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I am just impressed that Richard can work "fiddy" into almost all conversations.

[peewee2you]

Gas Monkey only deals in cash!!

[Model A Bill]

Originally Posted by 1931 flamingo

It's entertainment..................
Would you buy something he built??
Paul in CT

I missed the entertainment part.I could only stand it for 10 minutes before I changed the channel,The guy is a hack.Even if its just for TV

[no6]

Originally Posted by Model A Bill

I missed the entertainment part.I could only stand it for 10 minutes before I changed the channel,The guy is a hack.Even if its just for TV

I guess I'm not alone in my thinking.

[jhaas63]

I love the show...look forward to Monday nights for it.

[bk53]

ass monkey that one vietnamese gal calls him. lol. they are working with a friend of a friend on an F40 ferrari. Filmed last weekend over at stewart's body shop and a ferrari dealer for the motor work. That's show business today I guess. They got one thing write, car bidness is a cash bidness down here in Texas.

[peewee2you]

jhaas63, I'm with you I look forward to it as well, another show I really like is Graveyard cars, relatives, and friends all work in the shop, however it's the mopar line of cars, but they end up putting out some real top notch work, very detailed. There's Mark, Darren, and Josh, but I haven't seen there new assistant the research gal Holly.... If you haven't seen it check it out, I know it's not Ford. Their getting a lot of new equipt. in house, and very detailed in what type of primers they use and appropriate grit of sandpaper and a lot of the small stuff that I find good to know. Mark will even tell you when he use to do one way and changed up and give the reason.

[brien]

These restoration type shows can't be real at all. They dramatize the cheap aquisition. Then they wholesale the parts. Then,... what about the labor? Last time I looked it is almost $90 per hr. Do these owners pay their crew at all? Restorations take many many hours...I find it impossible to have the work done these guys do and not have to budget the labor costs. Often times they have three guys working on the car $270 per hr labor cost????

So even 10 hrs of labor is $2700.00 A full work week....$10,800.00

This show is merely entertainment for those who likely know no better.

[jkeesey]

With shop rate of $90 an hour your not paying your worker $90. He's maybe making $20.

[Scott H in Wheaton]

I like the show.
I've owned and run a restoration shop for a number of years, so I can empathize with dealing with the employees and also being the owner and being responsible for the bottom line, paying for broken parts and stuff.
I've also been involved with taping a show for the History Channel and I appeared on one of those pawn shop type reality shows, so I know you can't believe everything they show you on tv.
Overall I enjoy watching it, although you definitely have to take it with a grain of salt.

[joel]

Yep, mostly B.S.

[VeryTangled]

What did y'all think when the Mustang they just finished was hit by the uninsured pickup?

-VT/Jeff

[jkeesey]

I thought HOLY SH**! that almost happened to me in a just finished 67 GTO convertible. Expect the difference was i was doing 65mph not turning at a redlight. Makes you reconsider road testing cars.

[dude]

May be a lot of BS,but it would seems a lot of Barners are watching it. I guess they accomplished their goal ???

[jkeesey]

Its entertainment, plain and simple.

[TonyM]

Reality shows are garbage, especially automotive themed shows, and a good indication of how far we have fallen as a country. Give me a break. You would be better off in the shop doing something constructive. TM

[Scott H in Wheaton]

Originally Posted by VeryTangled

What did y'all think when the Mustang they just finished was hit by the uninsured pickup?

-VT/Jeff

That Mustang is repairable...might have to replace the subrails from the firewall forward but considering everything on the car was new or recently done it shouldn't be much of a problem. Might have to change 1 or 2 of the four fender aprons. Shock towers should be fine. Engine was fine 'cause they started the car after the accident.

I think $1000 in new metal at the most and maybe a week for those monkeys to dis-assemble, weld in and paint the new stuff, then reassemble. Maybe the second week to do body/paint work. But at least its black, pretty simple to match the color LOL.

[jkeesey]

Scott they probably did just that so they could sell the car. I doubt they would just scrap it. The entire new inner frame structure for the front including shock towers is only $750 a side.

[BobbyG]

We get that here in the Uk and I think it is one of the better 'reality' Tv programmes.

I enjoy seeing the countryside of Texas as they go about their business.

And I like the fact that they do not always make $$$$.

Bob

[peewee2you]

Good point BobbyG. Sometime back gas monkey garage had a Model A for sale on eBay I sent a contact seller with questions never heard back and although I thought for the condition it was over priced, at least they recognized it was all in it's original condition and chose to sell vs. chopping it up, like one episode I saw on American Hotrod Boyd coddington
When he was with us, he found an original I believe 1 owned family Model a, tha ran beautifully and his whole team was torn that he insisted on cutting up completely for a resto
Rod, damn it was sickening,and when it was all done it wasn't impressive at all.

[trulyvintage]

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Originally Posted by jhaas63

I love the show...look forward to Monday nights for it.

Originally Posted by Scott H in Wheaton

I like the show.
I've owned and run a restoration shop for a number of years, so I can empathize with dealing with the employees and also being the owner and being responsible for the bottom line, paying for broken parts and stuff.
I've also been involved with taping a show for the History Channel and I appeared on one of those pawn shop type reality shows, so I know you can't believe everything they show you on tv.
Overall I enjoy watching it, although you definitely have to take it with a grain of salt.

I also enjoy Richard & Aaron ...

Over on the AACA there is a long thread with many posts
by Phipps who was their landlord until they moved into
their new digs this season ...

What you see is what you get, Richard has an ego but
who doesn't have an ego ???

I like their builds - they are getting better.



Jim

[1931 flamingo]

I went to highschool with the fellow from shreveport, Louisianna that sold "bluco" the fire truck and the caddy to him.He told me about it at our 50th re-union last September.
Paul in CT

[brien]

Originally Posted by VeryTangled

What did y'all think when the Mustang they just finished was hit by the uninsured pickup?

-VT/Jeff

This is why I load up on "uninsured motorist" insurance. There are so many deadbeats out there, you're foolish if you don't now. If the can't afford insurance, they likely have no assests, no money, and no future earniing potential..

Uninsured motorist options are the best thing to come down the old pike in years..

[Lanny]

I believe "uninsured motorist" insurance covers Bodily Injury to you or your
passengers, it does NOT cover any damage to the vehicle you are driving.









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[peewee2you]

Lanny, I have AAA and was hit and run and totaled out my Ford Ranger truck a the time, and because the guy nor the vehicle could be found uninsured motorist on my policy paid for the value of my truck at the time. I fortunately was not hurt in the vehicle, I came around a bend this guy comes screaming down the street at high speeds on a residential side street, he loses control, and hits me almost dead on for a head on collision, I tried to get out and couldn't it was an El Camino, he looks right out the windshield of his car with steam coming from the radiator his car died and rolled back a few feet as he looks up at me in the truck he smiles, and he's able to get his car restarted and speeds off with that grin on his face, man I was pissed, bastard....

[mrtexas]

Collision coverage is what pays for your car if the other guy doesn't have insurance.

[Scott H in Wheaton]

Originally Posted by mrtexas

Collision coverage is what pays for your car if the other guy doesn't have insurance.

no, it doesn't

From an insurance information website ( www.car-insurance-guide.us) :

What is collision coverage?

Collision coverage is the part of your car insurance policy that will cover the cost of damages to your car that occur because of a car accident you cause. If it was someone else's fault, then their insurance will cover the cost of your car repair.


What is uninsured motorist coverage?

Uninsured motorist coverage (also known as underinsured motorist coverage) covers the cost of damages to your car in the event that you are hit by another driver who doesn't have car insurance. Uninsured motorist coverage also pays for medical care for you and your passengers, and funeral costs for injuries related to the accident up to the amount that your policy would have covered for the other person had the accident been your fault. Hit and run accidents are included under this policy as well. Accidents involving bikes and pedestrians may also be covered; contact your prospective provider to be sure.

[TonyM]

Originally Posted by Lanny

I believe "uninsured motorist" insurance covers Bodily Injury to you or your
passengers, it does NOT cover any damage to the vehicle you are driving.

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Wow, we must have gotten away with something. My wife's vehicle was struck by an uninsured DUI driver a few years back. The guy did not have insurance. Our carrier payed for the damage to the vehicle caused by the uninsured motorist. Must not be an iron clad rule then. Some one better clue my insurance company in. TM

[Lanny]

I would imagine it is probably like most things,
every state has their own laws and requirments
for everything, including insurance laws, and
here is a copy I found of Minnesota's.
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Minimum Coverage Requirements
Minnesota requires all licensed vehicles to have PIP, Liability,
Uninsured, and Underinsured coverage in the following amounts:
Type of Coverage Minimum Amount Required
Personal Injury Protection (PIP) $40,000 per person per accident
($20,000 for hospital/medical expenses and
$20,000 for non-medical expenses such as lost
wages, replacement services, etc.)
Liability $30,000 for injuries to one person
$60,000 for injuries to two or more people
$10,000 for physical damage to the other driver’s
vehicle or for damage to property
Uninsured $25,000 for injuries to one person
$50,000 for injuries to two or more people
Underinsured $25,000 for injuries to one person
$50,000 for injuries to two or more people
If you have a loan on your vehicle, the lienholder, as the legal
owner of the car, will require you to carry comprehensive and
collision coverage. If you do not purchase this coverage, the lien
holder may buy it and charge you for the premium. This is
termed “forced insurance;” it is extremely expensive, it is legal,

and it does not include the required coverages listed above.











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[Gumpy]

You have to believe Richard Rollins are giving it his best shot to make money on these cars, an example is selling the 41 Willys coupe for 25k, thats a good price for a builder of a classic gasser, sometimes you have to stand firm on what your selling and he did, I think Richard is a man of integrity and Id like to hang out at the shop for a week and give Aaron a hand. gump

[Rowdy]

With his ego and all of the hype of the show it does me good to watch that snake loose money. Rod

[ford38v8]

Coincidentally, there seems to be as much discussion over what's real or unreal as there was years ago when wrestling was the "reality" show on the tube.

[FL&WVMIKE]

"American Pickers" is contrived too. A while ago, they visited Daytona Beach and bought a "Pandora's Box" neon sign, while "free-styling".
The owner of the shop was interviewed by our local newspaper. The owner stated that an advance crew was in his place two weeks prior, but on the day of the purchase, it was the first time that he had met Frank and Mike.
MIKE

[uncle buck]

Originally Posted by Gumpy

I think Richard is a man of integrity and Id like to hang out at the shop for a week and give Aaron a hand. gump

I am on the other side of the street on my opinion of him. I will admit I do watch a bit of the show though. Read all of his feedback here :
http://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAP...84.m1423.l2776

[Marv]

I do not beleive everything i see or hear. I think it is just another make beleive TV show. I think all those type of shows have the same writer. Whatever they are doing they end up with a big deal of missing parts, wrong paint, or whatever and end up with a deadline of some type they have to meet, but they make it. Marv

[Scott H in Wheaton]

Originally Posted by uncle buck

I am on the other side of the street on my opinion of him. I will admit I do watch a bit of the show though. Read all of his feedback here :
http://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAP...84.m1423.l2776

Looks like that Ebay feedback supports the idea of him being an okay guy. Only a few unhappy people out of a few hundred which is not bad considering all the Internet weirdos you deal with on Ebay.

[uncle buck]

Originally Posted by Scott H in Wheaton

Looks like that Ebay feedback supports the idea of him being an okay guy. Only a few unhappy people out of a few hundred which is not bad considering all the Internet weirdos you deal with on Ebay.

Some of the bad comments are marked as positive and read otherwise. Most of the bad comments seem to be since the show started too. This one looks like it is older though:

" I am not to happy the truck was sold out from under me.You have a perfect recordBuyer: Member id 713franks ( Feedback Score Of 114)
Apr-10-09 14:05 GMC (#290306692214)US $1,225.00I am not to happy the truck was sold out from under me.You have a perfect record "