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Old 09-02-2021, 07:39 PM   #1
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Default Tie down wheels or axles when towing

Enclosed trailer. 50 miles. Should I tie down the 4 wheels or the axles? Towing Cabriolet.
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Old 09-02-2021, 07:57 PM   #2
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I have seen just the axles or both. If done properly I really don't think you'll have any issues. I would rather not use anything on restored wheels.
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I no longer tow/trailer but…
I tied both. They make some over-the-tire “bonnets” that don’t involve the steel wheels.
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Old 09-03-2021, 06:34 AM   #5
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And don't cross tie !!
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Why don't you cross tie? What is the disadvantage in doing this.

That is what I have been doing for both the front and rear.
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Old 09-03-2021, 09:01 AM   #7
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Crossing the straps is effective only when both straps create tension to hold the load in place. If one strap become loose, the other becomes unless as well.

Your cargo, your decision. Feeling lucky ??
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Old 09-04-2021, 10:03 AM   #9
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Truly,

I won't argue with 15 years of experience, I suspect your talent came from helping Noah.

The photo of the '34 Roadster has a third, center strap pulling straight. Better insurance.
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Old 09-04-2021, 11:11 AM   #10
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I've had the over-the-tire straps loosen, so I now tie just the axles. 2 on the front, 2 on the rear trying to pull the car apart. I strap it down at home, then down the road a short way just to be sure all is OK. I also check them for tightness whenever I stop, just to be sure.
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I like to see the wheels chocked and the axles tied down.
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Crossing the straps is effective only when both straps create tension to hold the load in place. If one strap become loose, the other becomes unless as well.

Your cargo, your decision. Feeling lucky ??
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Cross strapping a car in place has Never made any sense to me.
Strapping straight on all 4 corners will hold a vehicle as tight
as you could hope for.




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Old 09-04-2021, 11:31 AM   #13
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only cross tie and axles only. will never move.


guess you have to be an engineer to understand the benefits of diagonals........
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Old 09-04-2021, 11:41 AM   #14
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I use straps that go over each tire with side straps stitched on them that will keep them on the tires even if they become loose. This way, nothing touches painted surfaces. I can load a car and strap it to the floor in about 4 minutes time-easy, fast, and safe. I have towed Model A's cross country many, many times using these straps with zero issues.
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I always am thinking of other options ….

This is a six point tie down:





Any strap can come loose - but if you maintain
your equipment and check your straps - it is
not an issue.



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only cross tie and axles only. will never move.


guess you have to be an engineer to understand the benefits of diagonals........
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only cross tie and axles only. will never move.


guess you have to be an engineer to understand the benefits of diagonals........
Never move?? If one strap gets loose the car will move toward the other making it loose. Never cross tie.
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tell that to truly vintage. Ive never had one "get loose"


and why should it?
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diagonals mainly help on cornering- straight tie downs can allow the car to "hop"


much more strength in a diagonal- if you dont believe me, take a look at the deck built on the back of your house. if it was built correctly, it will have diagonal supports.
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I have hauled for 40 years and always use straight tie downs with no hop! A good friend was transporting his AACA Ford truck to a show when one of the diagonals came loose. That in turn made the other diagonal totally useless in fact it pulled the truck sideways into the side of the enclosed trailer. That sure messed up the paint. Granted he said it was more than likely his fault forgot to lock the strap but the point is if they had been straight he would have still had three corners holding the truck when the one came loose!
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I know nothing about wood, but most serious hurricanes don't seem to be bothered by diagonals....

If you have been around cars more than ten minutes, you know 'poop happens'. Study Truly's anchoring of the black Ford Roadster. Besides diagonals (???), an additional straight strap, PLUS vertical side boards against the tires preventing the car from shifting.

We won't agree on his methods but it does appear he knows 'poop happens' by his extra precautions.
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Most paved roads are banked so the water
will drain to the curb side.

My experience - vehicles will move to the curb
side in or on your trailer as you pull it down the
road.


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I know nothing about wood, but most serious hurricanes don't seem to be bothered by diagonals....

If you have been around cars more than ten minutes, you know 'poop happens'. Study Truly's anchoring of the black Ford Roadster. Besides diagonals (???), an additional straight strap, PLUS vertical side boards against the tires preventing the car from shifting.

We won't agree on his methods but it does appear he knows 'poop happens' by his extra precautions.
I use surface mount etrac as an anchoring method.

Sometimes I will take etrac wood sockets and run
a length of dimensional lumber to keep a vehicle
from shifting inside the trailer.










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Jim it's obvious you take great care with your cargo! If I didn't do my own hauling you would be my go to guy!
Regards, Dale.
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Thank You Dale !

I leave from Orcas Island, WA on the ferry tomorrow.
Head down to Everett, WA to pick up my trailer.

I have been also moving travel trailers ….





Then I go to Bend, Oregon to pick up this
1970 Chevelle magazine cover car and transport
it to Iowa …..





Then I head to Kansas to pick up this
1941 Pick Up Truck that a repeat customer
has been waiting patiently for me since May
to haul for him to Delaware ….






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I just dropped off this 1970 Chevelle SS in Iowa today.
A six figure car - multiple national awards - magazine covers ….
As with all vehicles - loaded & unloaded by wireless remote.

Four point tie down at the rear to the axle & frame:





Two point tie down at the front - winch line was left connected.

A Beautiful Chevelle SS …





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