More New Sheetmetal Products for Pickups

[OldGold360]

In a previous thread on some other parts I made for 35-39 Pickups, someone mentioned that I could probably make these pieces. I said I would if there was enough interest, and sure enough, I had several requests for them. I made the first pair today and am happy with the results. I used some originals for the specs and these new ones are spot on. I just have to fine tune the process to make each one in order to keep costs low.

Now available for 35/36 Pickups are the hard to find, and usually expensive, windshield hinge / wiper motor covers. These are stamped in 20 gauge cold rolled steel, just like the originals. Feel free to let me know if you’re interested, but I will create an ad once these are ready to ship, which should be in about a week.

Thanks for looking.

[DavidG]

Seriously good work!

[OldGold360]

Thanks DavidG

[Tinker]

Nice work.

[tubman]

That is some very nice work. You are a credit to the hobby, sir. Keep up the good work. We need more people like you.

[OldGold360]

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Originally Posted by tubman

That is some very nice work. You are a credit to the hobby, sir. Keep up the good work. We need more people like you.

Thanks guys. Just trying to do my part to help out. As I mentioned before, this is not my business and I am not looking to start another company. I am only trying to fill a need for a couple (maybe more in the future) hard to find items for these prewar pickups, primarily the 35/36 pickups, because that is what I am restoring for myself right now. I should just pass these parts on to a supplier in order to make them easier to purchase, since I can only accept payment by check. Nobody seems to mind, but it might be easier to purchase if they could be ordered online. Right now, these are only available from me through Ford Barn. I am open to making other parts if there is a need.

[JSeery]

Really cool that someone is interested in stepping up to the difficult task of producing quality parts!

[TomT/Williamsburg]

Now I wish I had a pickup to put them on! Nice work!

[36and63]

You're providing a great service to anyone with the need for these hard to find and usually overpriced parts Josh!

I cant wait to get my pedal plate from you I ordered for my 36.


Pat

[OldGold360]

I am happy to be able to provide something of use. I did just post an ad in the classified section for anyone looking for more info including pricing on these covers. These are available and ready for purchase.

[bbrocksr]

Originally Posted by OldGold360

Thanks guys. Just trying to do my part to help out. As I mentioned before, this is not my business and I am not looking to start another company. I am only trying to fill a need for a couple (maybe more in the future) hard to find items for these prewar pickups, primarily the 35/36 pickups, because that is what I am restoring for myself right now. I should just pass these parts on to a supplier in order to make them easier to purchase, since I can only accept payment by check. Nobody seems to mind, but it might be easier to purchase if they could be ordered online. Right now, these are only available from me through Ford Barn. I am open to making other parts if there is a need.

What do you think about a transmission cover plate for a 36 pickup? mine is pretty rusty and cut up.


Thanks, Bill

[OldGold360]

Originally Posted by bbrocksr

What do you think about a transmission cover plate for a 36 pickup? mine is pretty rusty and cut up.


Thanks, Bill

Hi Bill,
Isn’t this cover already offered by someone else? I think I’ve seen them on Third Gens website or somewhere else.

[rottenron36]

I was the one who suggested you make those. They look great, and will slow down the people asking a $100 for an original. You will sell a lot of them. GOOD job. Ron

[OldGold360]

Originally Posted by rottenron36

I was the one who suggested you make those. They look great, and will slow down the people asking a $100 for an original. You will sell a lot of them. GOOD job. Ron

It was you Ron. I too thought it was a good idea. These smaller panels are easy enough, just some time in tooling. Guys selling their originals are gonna be mad at me, but originals are still originals. I haven’t sold any yet but I’ve only listed them here on the FordBarn and just put the ad up today. Thanks

[tubman]

Just my unofficial opinion, but I believe that a guy in your position would be better off making only parts that are NOT available elsewhere.

We need parts, not competition.

[OldGold360]

I completely agree with you tubman. That is why I started making pieces that people seemed to need, including me, yet they are not available aside for expensive and hard to find originals. Of course originals are always better but they can be difficult to find and sometimes cost more than us regular car guys can afford. I just hope I’m not stepping on anyone’s toes by making the parts that I’m making and I sure hope that offering these parts on the barn isn’t offending anyone. I’m certainly not try to profit by making these parts. Just trying to give back. I’ve had requests by other barn members for other parts, so it seems like I might be able to fill a few needs.

Another part that I’m strongly considering making is the crank hole section for 35/36 pickup grills. The only problem is that the grill I have is missing the crank hole so I have nothing to go off of to replicate the crank hole aside from some pictures and rough dimensions. If anybody has a crank hole section of a grill or is selling a 35 or 36 grill with a good crank hole, I would be interested in buying it for the purpose of using it to replicate this piece. I’ve seen so many good grills missing this piece. I would plan on making grill bars as well. There seems to be a need for both these items and I could not find anyone else making these pieces. Just a thought at this time.

[bbrocksr]

Originally Posted by OldGold360

Hi Bill,
Isn’t this cover already offered by someone else? I think I’ve seen them on Third Gens website or somewhere else.

Your'e right, third generation has them.

Thanks, Bill

[mercman from oz]

Windshield hinge / wiper motor covers. Very nice work.

[OldGold360]

Originally Posted by mercman from oz

Windshield hinge / wiper motor covers. Very nice work.

Thank you!

[raybee]

Nice work, Good originals are hard to find.

[flatford8]

Does anybody have ‘37 wiper covers he can use as a pattern? ..... thanks,...... Mark

[Talkwrench]

I dont need the parts but sure glad youre making them...

[OldGold360]

I suppose I should offer these bed floor dimples around the bed mounting bolts. All too often I have seen rust forming around these areas of the bed floor. I made tooling to stamp these out to repair my bed floor and can easily stamp more if anyone is in need.

[MotleyCrue1435]

Nice !!

[OldGold360]

I forgot that I started this post. I am continuing to make products for 35-37 Pickups that aren’t currently offered. I only started doing this because of the need for these pieces on my own 36 P/U that I am restoring and figured I might as well offer them to others in need. I will update this thread with the new pieces I’m offering as they become available. Feel free to make recommendations on what you guys need and there is a chance it’s on the list of items I’ll be making. The most recent is piece I’ve produced is the crank hole repair piece for the 35/36 pickups. Next will most likely be fender repair pieces as well as running board patch panels. Thanks to all those who have purchased these items, and please let me and everyone else know how these products have worked for you. Thanks.

[art ebeling]

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Those are great. How about some cab corners for the 35/36 pickups? Art

[OldGold360]

Although I can make the cab corners, I don’t think anybody would want to pay what it would cost to make them. Because of their size and shape, stamping dies would be expensive to make, especially since there is a left and a right. I could make them, and I did look at the NOS Northern corners I have to see if there was a practical way for me to do them, but I don’t think I would even come close to breaking even. Hand shaping is the only practical way and it’s not practical to do in volume. I know a lot of the pickup guys need them, I was one of them till I found corners, so I will take another look and see what I can come up with.

[v8fordman]

How about seat risers for ‘35-‘37’s? Lots of 3/4 and 1 ton cabs could be to converted to pickups.

[OldGold360]

Seat risers are big and I doubt anyone would want to pay for the shipping. Plus the cost to accurately replicate the seat riser in multiples would be expensive to set up. It’s a great idea and you never know. I know of a few guys that need one, including me, but I’ve got a lead on one. I just need to go pick it up from a fellow Barn member.

[art ebeling]

Would you consider making the lower front patch for the rear fenders where they meet the running board? Concerning those and the rear cab corners, what quanity and price or individual price would make it worth your time and effort? Thank you, Art

[OldGold360]

I am going to be making some fender repair pieces. Just about finished with tooling for the wheel opening bead. I’ll definitely be making the inner reinforcement piece for the lower front section of the rear fenders. I’ve got a good one from my fender so I will be able to match it perfectly. I’ll see what I can do on the outer portion where it mates to the running board. I do need to play around with cab corners a bit. Ive been asked by others about making some. They would be shaped rather than stamped so I need to figure out how to do it quickly. Im working on lower outside cowl sections now for anybody interested. I will be trying to have these available after this weekend. Thanks

[art ebeling]

I would be interested in the cowl sections and of course the front of rear fenders and cab corners. Thank you, Art my email is my username @ yahoo.com all one word lower case, trying to avoid spam by listing it this way. I have sent you a private message with more of my contact information.

[OldGold360]

I am considering making the cab corners but unsure what they would cost to make since they will be hand formed, not stamped. I have a good set of corners to pull dimensions from so I at least know they will be accurate.

I am now making the beaded portion of the lower cowl. If anyone is interested in these, either individually or as a pair, just let me know. Fender repair pieces are coming soon. Thanks

[OldGold360]

Some of the first fender pieces. The smaller one is to repair the typical cracks that develop in the center of the wheel opening on the rear fenders. These beads are nearly identical to the beads on the front fenders and the radius at the center of the wheel opening is the same, so they should work for the fronts as well. These should be available late this week, if not sooner.

[Hitman]

Awesome job! I don’t need your products as I don’t have a truck of that vintage, but I appreciate your time and effort. You are one reason why the hobby continues!

[Lawson Cox]

You are gonna sell a whole passel of those things. A much needed piece. I wish I had some when I was restoring my avatar.

[v8fordman]

I already make the rear fender inner reinforcement piece. Colton Hardison makes the front lower rear fender patch, the entire rear fender back section as well as a complete wheel opening bead. It would be great if you can do cab corners since they aren’t made anymore. Like someone said…we need parts not competition. Everything fits perfectly.

[v8fordman]

Here are some pictures of a pair of fenders that should have been thrown away but I decided to take all the reproduction pieces made and save them. The left rear was a stake bed fender that had been crushed from the side I forgot to make a “before” I started beating it roughly into shape picture. The rest of the story is told by the pictures.

[OldGold360]

I have known Colton for nearly 20 years. He is a great guy, excellent metalshaper and I consider him a friend. I was just speaking with him about these fender pieces and I knew he made complete fenders but never realized he offered sections of the same rear fender for sale. Anybody that needs these pieces should contact him. As far as the rear fender to running board reinforcement plate, thanks for the pictures. I was not aware that anybody was making these. However, the good one on my fender looks different than yours. Is yours an exact copy of an original? The good original on my fender has different bends, the bead extends further out, the lower bent flange isn't as long and they are made from two pieces of sheetmetal, stacked together and spot welded. The ones I have made are laser cut and they have the correct hole for fender mounting as well as the 3 square holes for running board mounting. I agree that we should not try to go out of our way to compete with each other on this site, but does this still apply if we offer a product that is another variation of a part but does the same thing, especially if it is an exact replica of an original part? I have already made 3 pairs, laser cut and formed. I need a pair for my pickup so that leaves me with 2 pairs. If you would like me to refrain from selling them, no problem, or if you don't think I should produce any more. I am not trying to step on anybody's toes and certainly don't want to make any enemies. I am just trying to offer parts for these pickups that I didn't think were available, especially since I already had to make these same pieces for my pickup that I am restoring. If knowing I was going to only make these parts for my pickup and did not get requests from others to make extras, I would not have invested as much in tooling to make multiples.

[GB SISSON]

Originally Posted by v8fordman

Here are some pictures of a pair of fenders that should have been thrown away but I decided to take all the reproduction pieces made and save them. The left rear was a stake bed fender that had been crushed from the side I forgot to make a “before” I started beating it roughly into shape picture. The rest of the story is told by the pictures.

Quite apparant that this is not your first rodeo. Those came out really nice.

[gordonharper]

josh yes, I .would interested in cab corners

[OldGold360]

I’m working on cab corners but no promises. As much as I’d love to machine tooling to just stamp them, I don’t think I’d ever break even. I’m also working on the cowl vent gutter panel. I know this is another commonly rusted out section and as far as I know, nobody is making these. I believe the car and pickups are the same and fit earlier years as well. Can anybody confirm this? If anybody is interested in one of these panels, just let me know. Thanks.

[TomT/Williamsburg]

Now I wish I had a pickup your parts could go on! Nice work !

[art ebeling]

I would sell my 36 project. PM if interested, art

[OldGold360]

Just thought I would share pictures of the 35-37 rear fender inner reinforcement pieces I’ve made. They are exactly like the originals that were on my pickup, including being made from two layers of sheetmetal and spot welded together. I did coat the surfaces between the two panels with a weld thru primer. The corners are formed square to round like the original versions were and all holes are there and align perfectly with the original holes in my fenders. I only did a short run of these before I was told these are already being made by somebody. His version is made using a single layer. He posted pictures of his in this thread and is another source for this same part, and will be the only source once mine are gone. Thanks for looking.

[uncle buck]

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Originally Posted by oldgold360

just thought i would share pictures of the 35-37 rear fender inner reinforcement pieces i’ve made. They are exactly like the originals that were on my pickup, including being made from two layers of sheetmetal and spot welded together. I did coat the surfaces between the two panels with a weld thru primer. The corners are formed square to round like the original versions were and all holes are there and align perfectly with the original holes in my fenders. I only did a short run of these before i was told these are already being made by somebody. His version is made using a single layer. He posted pictures of his in this thread and is another source for this same part, and will be the only source once mine are gone. Thanks for looking.

nice work!

[Karl Wescott]

Don't re-invent the wheel on the cowl vent gutter panel. The 1935-36 pickup cowl vent assembly is the same as 1933-34 passenger. Tom Bay at R&J is making them now.


As to making dies, I assume you have the press capability. If you were to stop by we could discuss the concept of making a die mock-up as a 3D print, then having it investment cast. The foundry we use is 5 miles away from me so we could go over there to discuss available alloys and process.

[OldGold360]

Karl,
That is a very generous offer and I appreciate this offer. I will get with you to see what works with your schedule. I do have a 3d printer and have contacted a few foundries about lost PLA casting, but I have not found one that wants to do this. I will PM you with my contact info. Thanks again.

Josh

[Mart]

Nice job on the reinforcement panels. They look really well made.

[OldGold360]

Thanks uncle buck… Thanks Mart. I appreciate it. I’ve got some exciting news for you 35, 36 and 37 Pickup owners coming in the next day or two. Can anybody guess what it is?

[v8fordman]

Cab corners?

[OldGold360]

Originally Posted by v8fordman

Cab corners?

Yep. I kinda figured it would be the first guess. Im currently working on tooling and should have some available in a couple weeks. Maybe a bit longer if there are any hiccups or if I need to make any changes. Im not sure how many pairs I’ll do. It just depends on how efficient my process is and if I can price them fairly enough. If anybody has any questions, or wants on the wait list, please feel free to PM me. I will post more info as soon as I can. Thanks!

[37 truck]

Hi OldGold360, I sent you the cab corners I had left over, are you using those as templets for reproductions? Those came from Northern back in the day.

[OldGold360]

I have a pair of Northern cab corners, one of which came from you, and most of some originals that I’m getting all the specs from as well as the flange details and shape on the underside. I am also using my pickup cab to check to make sure they fit. Of course, like any of this stuff, what fits my cab perfectly might require some slight tweaking to fit yours. Today I made the first cab corner. It was just a test to check the tooling and operations for making them as well as to check fit. I plan to spend some time tomorrow to dial in the tooling and maybe start on the drivers side tooling. I’m happy to be able to offer these soon. Maybe a week or two and I should have a a few pairs available.

[OldGold360]

Getting close… still have a couple adjustments to make on the passenger side tooling and need to finalize the blank shape and size. I will be able to start making the tooling for the drivers side soon.

[v8fordman]

That looks super nice. I received my '35/36 wiper motor covers and they are dead on. Keep up the excellent work.

[Zeke3]

Beautiful work, wish I had a pickup truck now.

[OldGold360]

Thank you Jay… thanks Zeke. Yesterday I made a couple adjustments to the tooling and got the passenger side fitting really well. Now I just need to polish the tooling to avoid any of the tooling marks I am currently seeing. I will have pricing hopefully in a day or two and should have these ready to go in a couple weeks.

Ps - Please ignore my crusty frame…

[rockfla]

IF you could make a lower rear tail panel for a 1935/36/37 Sedan Delivery, I'd be your first customer, NO doubt.

[OldGold360]

Originally Posted by rockfla

IF you could make a lower rear tail panel for a 1935/36/37 Sedan Delivery, I'd be your first customer, NO doubt.

Somebody will have to donate a 35-37 Sedan Delivery to me first so that I have one to copy. I’m open to making parts for other years and models. I’m only doing parts for these pickups because I’m restoring one for myself, so I have one to use for patterns.

[OldGold360]

Passenger side is done and ready to go. Now to repeat the process on tooling for the drivers side. It shouldn’t be too long and I should have pricing figured out by tomorrow.

[Mart]

Excellent work.

Do you have a history in sheet metal work?

[rockfla]

Originally Posted by OldGold360

Somebody will have to donate a 35-37 Sedan Delivery to me first so that I have one to copy. I’m open to making parts for other years and models. I’m only doing parts for these pickups because I’m restoring one for myself, so I have one to use for patterns.

I could send the one I have (albeit partially made out of coffee cans & bondo) , the question would be "how many here on the barn would ALSO need the same?"

[OldGold360]

Originally Posted by rockfla

I could send the one I have (albeit partially made out of coffee cans & bondo) , the question would be "how many here on the barn would ALSO need the same?"

I’d be concerned with its accuracy being partially made from coffee cans and bondo.

[OldGold360]

Cab corners will be available in about a week, maybe a day or two more. I am making six pairs in the initial batch, four pairs are spoken for. Those that are interested in a pair, please PM me for pricing and more info. Feel free to provide your zip code and I will get shipping costs for you. Thanks.

[OldGold360]

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Originally Posted by Mart

Excellent work.

Do you have a history in sheet metal work?

Sorry, I missed this Mart. Yes, I do have a history in metalwork. Mostly metalshaping for vintage cars, motorcycles and airplanes, but I’m experienced in machining, fabrication, etc. Been at this professionally for 23 years.

[rockfla]

Originally Posted by OldGold360

I’d be concerned with its accuracy being partially made from coffee cans and bondo.

From the surfaced/outside, it looked just as original (see picture).....Just upon further more in depth inspection, found the patches, band-aides and bondo!!!

[OldGold360]

Originally Posted by rockfla

From the surfaced/outside, it looked just as original (see picture).....Just upon further more in depth inspection, found the patches, band-aides and bondo!!!

Have you reached out to any local metalshapers or restoration shops?

[rockfla]

Originally Posted by OldGold360

Have you reached out to any local metalshapers or restoration shops?

Nothing local, other than me and I am "just" starting out and self learning. Just got an english wheel, shear, break, SO getting started. We had ONE guy for awhile that worked for Rusty Wallace/Penske but he passed away a few years ago. I PM's the fellow at Iron Trap BUT he didn't seen to be that kind of shop??? SO here we are!!

[OldGold360]

Originally Posted by rockfla

Nothing local, other than me and I am "just" starting out and self learning. Just got an english wheel, shear, break, SO getting started. We had ONE guy for awhile that worked for Rusty Wallace/Penske but he passed away a few years ago. I PM's the fellow at Iron Trap BUT he didn't seen to be that kind of shop??? SO here we are!!

Let me think about this. Maybe there is something I can do to help.

[Aussiebill]

Hi OldGold360
Sent you a message a couple of days ago regarding the rear fender front pieces and how to pay you.

Regards
Bill

[OldGold360]

Originally Posted by Aussiebill

Hi OldGold360
Sent you a message a couple of days ago regarding the rear fender front pieces and how to pay you.

Regards
Bill

Hi Bill,
PM sent…

[OldGold360]

Just thought I would provide an update for those that are interested. I began shipping cab corners a couple weeks ago and so far so good. I don’t know how many pairs I will be making but plan to make them for as long as there is interest. Thanks again for all of those that have purchased these or any of my other products. Although it’s not my regular source of revenue, it does help me afford to be able to develop other needed parts.

[GB SISSON]

Your sheet metal parts are just plain 'over the top'. Amazing. I understand it is a labor of love. Some of us just love to labor, if it is on something we are passionate about.

[Rckjone]

Originally Posted by OldGold360

In a previous thread on some other parts I made for 35-39 Pickups, someone mentioned that I could probably make these pieces. I said I would if there was enough interest, and sure enough, I had several requests for them. I made the first pair today and am happy with the results. I used some originals for the specs and these new ones are spot on. I just have to fine tune the process to make each one in order to keep costs low.

Now available for 35/36 Pickups are the hard to find, and usually expensive, windshield hinge / wiper motor covers. These are stamped in 20 gauge cold rolled steel, just like the originals. Feel free to let me know if you’re interested, but I will create an ad once these are ready to ship, which should be in about a week.

Thanks for looking.

Great job

[hotcoupe]

I recently purchased the cab corners and rear fender inner reinforcements, the quality is first rate, timely shipping, and Josh is very easy to deal with. Now, if he could just make the rocker panels, I'd be set.
Tom

[OldGold360]

Thanks everyone. Today I created a website with the hopes to make future purchases much easier and faster than mailing a check. I’ll make sure to create a discount code for my friends here on the Barn.

[OldGold360]

I didn't know if it would violate rules by posting the info in the following link, but I have had several people ask about the new website, so I created an ad for those looking for more information on the parts I've been making, shown in this thread.

https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/showthread.php?t=312084

[OldGold360]

Hello everyone. It’s been awhile so I figured that I should probably share what I’ve been up to. I have several new pieces for 35-37 pickups that should be available soon. Here is one of those items. These are the lower bed filler panels that fill the space between the bedside and running board. I made sure to make them just like the originals including the curved lower edge that matches the sweep of the running boards. These panels also have all the mounting holes and notches just like the original panels so they will bolt right up. More to come. Thanks for looking.

[petehoovie]

Originally Posted by OldGold360

These panels also have all the mounting holes and notches just like the original panels so they will bolt right up. More to come. Thanks for looking.

[fordscript]

Beautiful work!! Do you make repair panels for the bottom of rusted doors of a 40 pick up ? Thanks.

[OldGold360]

Thanks fordscript. Not at this time, but I’m open to making any pieces that aren’t currently available. I would need some 40 pickup doors to be able to use for scanning and patterns.

[Bored&Stroked]

Hey Josh - really NICE work! While I don't have a pickup, just wanted to give you an 'Atta Boy' on the quality of your work.

[35fordtn]

Shesh I wish I had some of your parts when I was doing my pickup. Incredible job.. How about running boards, or is that a bit on the extreme side of wishing?

[flatford8]

Hey Josh....I had asked about ‘37 wiper/windshield hinge covers awhile ago. I guess nobody has come up with a pattern?.......Mark

[39portlander]

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This a great thread and the products being produced for this hobby are invaluable. Thank you for the update O.G.

[OldGold360]

Originally Posted by 35fordtn

Shesh I wish I had some of your parts when I was doing my pickup. Incredible job.. How about running boards, or is that a bit on the extreme side of wishing?

Thanks guys.

Mike, I have a friend who is planning to make running boards for these pickups. I’ll have to ask how they’re coming along. I know he had a good original pair to use for patterns. Knowing him, they will be spot on and very nice. I’ll let you know what I find out. I don’t plan to make any unless he decides not to make them.

[OldGold360]

Originally Posted by flatford8

Hey Josh....I had asked about ‘37 wiper/windshield hinge covers awhile ago. I guess nobody has come up with a pattern?.......Mark

I would be happy to make these for the 37 pickup guys but without an original for specs there isn’t much I can do. I’ll look again and see if I can find any for sale. I’ll keep you posted.

[OldGold360]

I’m sure I’m not the only one with a rusted out cowl vent channel on my 35/36 pickup. I’m now making these and as far as I know, they will also fit 1933-1934 Passenger cars as well.

Still no luck for you guys that have asked about 1937 wiper covers.

[petehoovie]

NICE!

[Lawson Cox]

Nice good quality work. Where were you when I was restoring Apatchy? LOL

[OldGold360]

Thanks Lawson.

[Dak Rat]

The "holy grail" of pick-up parts would be the '38-'41 rear fenders. Would be a very ambitious project for sure.

[OldGold360]

Well I do want one of those pickups, and I have been asked many times about parts for them. The only way for me to create parts for them is to have one. Anybody have one or has a line on one that needs a good home?

[OldGold360]

I have been asked to make this part many times and have only done so on special order in the past. I finally decided to create the tooling to be able to make these on a regular basis and these should be available on the website soon. For those of you who may not know, this is the lower section of the back of the cab on 35-37 pickups, between the cab corners.

[OldGold360]

Well it’s not sheetmetal but here is the first 35-36 Pickup or Truck floorboard off the cnc. It’s 5/8 A-B Marine grade plywood. I’ll have these available on the website for sale just as soon as I figure out the most cost effective method to ship them.

[petehoovie]

Originally Posted by OldGold360

Well it’s not sheetmetal but here is the first 35-36 Pickup or Truck floorboard off the cnc. It’s 5/8 A-B Marine grade plywood. I’ll have these available on the website for sale just as soon as I figure out the most cost effective method to ship them.

[Mart]

Nice!

[v8fordman]

Another excellent looking part. Keep it up.

[Model51]

Your floorboard looks great. Nice work. You advertise this will fit 1935 and 1936 pickups and Trucks. Unfortunately the 1935 and 1936 Trucks use a slightly different floorboard. I've attached a sketch of what the Truck version looks like. The primary differences are the number of attaching screws on the rear side and the position and angle of the battery access hole.

[OldGold360]

Hi Dave,
I am aware that the battery hole is different for the trucks due to frame differences, and I plan to offer both versions, but I was not aware of any difference regarding the attachment holes for pickups and trucks. I have two cabs off of ‘36 trucks here and both have 13 mounting holes, same as my pickup cab. I did see the earlier floorboard blueprint that you shared in another post and it looked to have the same number and location of attachment holes as the drawing you just posted, at least from what I can remember anyways. Could the difference be a change made from early cabs to late cabs? Also, on the blueprint I have, the one with fewer attachment holes, the cutout size for the transmission is also different and it also shows 5 “buttons” to secure that transmission cover versus the 3 commonly seen. Any thoughts on any of this? Thank you for your help.

[OldGold360]

Another question… is the ‘37 pickup floorboard the same as 35-36 minus the battery access hole?

[37 truck]

I believe that the 37 is the same as 35 and 36 with the battery access exception. The main change was the split windshield. Same under cab support wood, same cab to frame bolts etc. Minor diffference in pedals, and ribs under seat riser.

[Model51]

One difference in the 1935 and 1936 pickup and big truck cabs is the sill member supporting the back edge of floorboard no. 2. The pickup sill member is part of the seat riser while for the big truck the sill supports the gas tank so it's a bit stronger. It's speculation on my part that Ford reduced the number of attaching screws on the big truck to account for this difference in sill members. The big truck and pickup cabs remained the same for 1935 and 1936 production so I think the number of screws on the back edge remains different for '35 and '36 pickups and trucks. All the trucks I've encountered have only have two clinch nuts on the rear sill.

I too have an early (September 1934) pickup floorboard number 2 drawing showing 5 of the turn buttons. The next version of the same drawing I have is dated June 26, 1935 but there are four revisions between these dates and I don't have any information on what any of the five revisions did to the part. The only way to know is from a copy of the Parts Release cards, which I don't have, and they are locked up in the Ford Archives. So, I can't tell you when Ford changed from 5 turn buttons to 3 or even if the September 1934 drawing was pre-production and never was used in that configuration.

I can tell you that Ford was making changes to the design of floorboard no. 1 and 2 around the start or in the early part of 1935 production. I have an early floorboard no. 1 design which must have only lasted a very short time in early 1935 production. I've attached a sketch of the early '35 design and the one used for the majority of production. Again this is speculation, but maybe the 5 turn button design was used with the early style floorboard no. 1 and both were phased out. Just guessing at this point. These are both for the Truck and the pickup floorboard no. 1 is slightly different. I don't have those drawing to be sure Ford made the same change, but I think it's likely. Note too that the turn button spacing and the transmission cutout shape is different with the early version. If I were you, I'd stick to the three button design as that's what most folks with pickups and trucks will likely want.

Sorry for the very long answer to a relatively simple question. It's great you are making these parts and I'll help you however I can with one arm tied behind my back since the Ford Archives are closed.

[OldGold360]

Thanks Dave. You’ve been a big help as always. Perhaps these cabs I have were not originally from a truck. I know one came off a truck but that doesn’t mean it was the factory cab for that truck. If the only difference between the truck and pickup plywood floorboard is the difference in mounting holes and battery access hole, I may just have to offer both versions.Thanks again.

[petehoovie]

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Originally Posted by Model51

I've attached a sketch of the early '35 design and the one used for the majority of production. Again this is speculation, but maybe the 5 turn button design was used with the early style floorboard no. 1 and both were phased out. Just guessing at this point. These are both for the Truck and the pickup floorboard no. 1 is slightly different. I don't have those drawing to be sure Ford made the same change, but I think it's likely. Note too that the turn button spacing and the transmission cutout shape is different with the early version. If I were you, I'd stick to the three button design as that's what most folks with pickups and trucks will likely want.

[Model51]

Yep - there are two versions for sure of floorboard no. 2. The model 50/67 cab and the '35-'36 model 51 cab have several minor differences. Most don't matter, but it does make a difference for the floorboard and the seat and gas tank arrangement.