Go Back   The Ford Barn > General Discussion > Early V8 (1932-53)

Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements)

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 02-23-2021, 08:34 PM   #1
Baggs
Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2018
Location: Oakdale, Ca
Posts: 44
Default What hub/drum assy do I have here?

N/m, cant get a pic uploaded
Baggs is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-23-2021, 08:53 PM   #2
JSeery
Member Emeritus
 
JSeery's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: Wichita KS
Posts: 16,132
Default Re: What hub/drum assy do I have here?

If you wand them upload while you work on figuring out how to post, I'll post them for you. [email protected]

Several threads with detailed, step-by-step instructions.
JSeery is offline   Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements)
Old 02-24-2021, 02:25 AM   #3
Baggs
Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2018
Location: Oakdale, Ca
Posts: 44
Default Re: What hub/drum assy do I have here?

Thanks,

Seems I need to get a resizing application.

Will send you the pic.

Thanks again,
Mike
Baggs is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-24-2021, 04:40 AM   #4
36coupe
Senior Member
 
36coupe's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: Eastcoast
Posts: 859
Default Re: What hub/drum assy do I have here?

I Email them to myself and pick a small size when I send them
36coupe is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-24-2021, 01:33 PM   #5
JSeery
Member Emeritus
 
JSeery's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: Wichita KS
Posts: 16,132
Default Re: What hub/drum assy do I have here?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Baggs View Post
Thanks,

Seems I need to get a resizing application.

Will send you the pic.

Thanks again,
Mike
Yes, the file you sent me was 3.27 MB and the maximum size you can post (per the limits listed in the pop-up menu). This is 120KB. What computer are you using, or are you doing everything on your phone? I also cropped the photo removing the space at the bottom and top.
Attached Images
File Type: jpg hub_drum.jpg (1).jpg (77.1 KB, 270 views)
JSeery is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-24-2021, 02:21 PM   #6
rotorwrench
Senior Member
 
rotorwrench's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: San Antonio, Texas
Posts: 16,367
Default Re: What hub/drum assy do I have here?

Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements)
Ford made two types of 12" X 5" on 5.5" lug pattern drums from 1940 thru 1948. The earlier drums were wide 5 pattern. The earlier ones of the two types had the hub mounted on the inside of the drum and the later ones had the hub on the outside of the drum. It certainly could be the inny type or perhaps an aftermarket replacement.

A photo may not tell the whole story. Measurements and characteristics say more than a photo. For example, I can't tell the drum braking surface diameter or the lug pattern size from the photo. An 11" braking surface drum would be later if the pattern is 5" on 5.5".
rotorwrench is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-24-2021, 03:26 PM   #7
Baggs
Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2018
Location: Oakdale, Ca
Posts: 44
Default Re: What hub/drum assy do I have here?

First, thanks to jseery for posting the pic for me


The BP is 5 on 5.5. I ran a tape on the other side w/o a hub that has the shoes on it, and appears it’s for a 12 inch hub. The shoes are 1 3/4 inches wide.

Thanks.
Baggs is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-24-2021, 03:30 PM   #8
Baggs
Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2018
Location: Oakdale, Ca
Posts: 44
Default Re: What hub/drum assy do I have here?

Quote:
Originally Posted by JSeery View Post
Yes, the file you sent me was 3.27 MB and the maximum size you can post (per the limits listed in the pop-up menu). This is 120KB. What computer are you using, or are you doing everything on your phone? I also cropped the photo removing the space at the bottom and top.
I figured out last night reading another members reply about editing the pic in Paint, it worked, but seems since I was at work there was a security issue in posting the file. I was on the secure network, probably what the issue was there. The member also posted how to make the pic smaller on my phone, but for some reason I can’t download an app on it.

And again, I thank you for your help!
Baggs is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-24-2021, 03:33 PM   #9
Mart
Senior Member
 
Mart's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Solihull, England.
Posts: 8,732
Default Re: What hub/drum assy do I have here?

It's what I'd call a "40" hub. Drum fits over the hub. (Hub is on the inside).

Brakes are 12x1.75"

Later had the hub on the outside but off the top of my head I'm not sure where the switch point is.

As a point of interest, the hubs/drums as an assembly are interchangeable for any year 1939 to 1948

Mart.
Mart is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-24-2021, 03:46 PM   #10
19Fordy
Senior Member
 
19Fordy's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Coral Springs FL
Posts: 10,872
Default Re: What hub/drum assy do I have here?

It looks like this 1940 Ford front drum.
Attached Images
File Type: jpg IMG_6881smallLF.jpg (74.7 KB, 49 views)
File Type: jpg IMG_6870smallLF.jpg (74.1 KB, 42 views)
File Type: jpg IMG_6897small left frnt.jpg (51.0 KB, 109 views)
19Fordy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-24-2021, 05:02 PM   #11
V8COOPMAN
Senior Member
 
V8COOPMAN's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: East Shore of LAKE HOUSTON
Posts: 11,106
Default Re: What hub/drum assy do I have here?

.

Your drum pictured below is what I believe to be an
"aftermarket replacement" drum/hub assembly for 1940 and '41, like in 19Fordy's pictures above this post.





An original '40-'41 drum has these bumps or scallops like in the pic below. DD


__________________
Click Links Below __


'35-'36 W/8BA & MECHANICAL FAN


T5 W/TORQUE TUBE
V8COOPMAN is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-24-2021, 06:43 PM   #12
19Fordy
Senior Member
 
19Fordy's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Coral Springs FL
Posts: 10,872
Default Re: What hub/drum assy do I have here?

Thanks V8 for that tid bit of info.

I always thought the OEM brake drums were smooth like the ones that were on my 40 in 1963. Here is a photo of that same drum/hub assembly. Can you make out the part number. The Ford parts book shows Ford Part Number 01A-1105-A for 1940-41 Ford. Cost was $6.25 for "Hub-Front & Drum". Gee, that was a lot of money in 1940.


The Hub-Rear & Drum shows Ford Part # 01A-1115-A and cost $7.50 in 1940.
Attached Images
File Type: jpg IMG_6882small left front.jpg (56.7 KB, 23 views)
File Type: jpg IMG_6884small left front.jpg (42.5 KB, 20 views)
File Type: jpg IMG_6874smallLF.jpg (34.3 KB, 18 views)

Last edited by 19Fordy; 02-24-2021 at 06:52 PM.
19Fordy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-24-2021, 07:23 PM   #13
V8COOPMAN
Senior Member
 
V8COOPMAN's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: East Shore of LAKE HOUSTON
Posts: 11,106
Default Re: What hub/drum assy do I have here?

Quote:
Originally Posted by 19Fordy View Post
Thanks V8 for that tid bit of info.

I always thought the OEM brake drums were smooth like the ones that were on my 40 in 1963. Here is a photo of that same drum/hub assembly. Can you make out the part number. The Ford parts book shows Ford Part Number 01A-1105-A for 1940-41 Ford. Cost was $6.25 for "Hub-Front & Drum". Gee, that was a lot of money in 1940.


The Hub-Rear & Drum shows Ford Part # 01A-1115-A and cost $7.50 in 1940.
Hey Jim....You know, you MAY have a point there. I said "I BELIEVE...", which actually means "WTH do I REALLY know?" You surely know that "01A" means "1940-First Issue". The "-A" means "Passenger Car". The "1106" is Ford language for "front hub/drum ASSEMBLY"...you could NOT buy a drum from Ford separately. The "-A2" at the end means some sort of update or change. So, with that type of part number forged into that hub flange, it is likely a Ford replacement assembly, or merely a later production assembly used on some '40 or '41 cars and light pick-ups. But remember...what do I know? DD
__________________
Click Links Below __


'35-'36 W/8BA & MECHANICAL FAN


T5 W/TORQUE TUBE
V8COOPMAN is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-24-2021, 07:44 PM   #14
19Fordy
Senior Member
 
19Fordy's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Coral Springs FL
Posts: 10,872
Default Re: What hub/drum assy do I have here?

V8: Thanks for the clarification. Your reply made sense to me.
19Fordy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-24-2021, 08:11 PM   #15
Baggs
Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2018
Location: Oakdale, Ca
Posts: 44
Default Re: What hub/drum assy do I have here?

I appreciate all the replies, assuming an aftermarket assy, and trying to achieve symmetry, is my best bet for a 40-41 assy?
Baggs is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-24-2021, 08:16 PM   #16
JSeery
Member Emeritus
 
JSeery's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: Wichita KS
Posts: 16,132
Default Re: What hub/drum assy do I have here?

See this current thread: https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/showthread.php?t=294942
JSeery is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-24-2021, 08:31 PM   #17
V8COOPMAN
Senior Member
 
V8COOPMAN's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: East Shore of LAKE HOUSTON
Posts: 11,106
Default Re: What hub/drum assy do I have here?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Baggs View Post
I appreciate all the replies, assuming an aftermarket assy, and trying to achieve symmetry, is my best bet for a 40-41 assy?
YES! Boling Bros. also have the only quality, 'stock-like' drums available. Do NOT use the Speedway drums which look similar to the Boling Bros. drums. They have had several problems. Boling drums replace the same way as that repro Buick drum. Replace the studs by reaming for .600" Dorman 610-234 studs, and voila! Same deal....contact Gary at Cornhuskers. DD


__________________
Click Links Below __


'35-'36 W/8BA & MECHANICAL FAN


T5 W/TORQUE TUBE
V8COOPMAN is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-24-2021, 09:24 PM   #18
Baggs
Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2018
Location: Oakdale, Ca
Posts: 44
Default Re: What hub/drum assy do I have here?

Thanks,

Issue I have is the other side is without the hub/drum assy, just a spindle and backing plate and brake hardware.

I have an hydraulic braked axle out back, but hate to pull it apart as I can't get it in and out of the weather.

SO looks like I'm in the hunt for a 40/41 hub/drum assy.

Sure wish the swaps would open soon
Baggs is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-25-2021, 01:46 PM   #19
Ggmac
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2016
Location: Lake worth Florida
Posts: 1,073
Default Re: What hub/drum assy do I have here?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Baggs View Post
Thanks,

Issue I have is the other side is without the hub/drum assy, just a spindle and backing plate and brake hardware.

I have an hydraulic braked axle out back, but hate to pull it apart as I can't get it in and out of the weather.

SO looks like I'm in the hunt for a 40/41 hub/drum assy.

Sure wish the swaps would open soon
Where do you live ?
Ggmac is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-25-2021, 01:47 PM   #20
cas3
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: sw minnesota
Posts: 4,541
Default Re: What hub/drum assy do I have here?

you should have you're general location in you're avatar, perhaps there is one near home
cas3 is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements)


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 07:11 AM.