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Lawrie · 01-20-2019, 12:45 AM

I pulled apart a low mileage 99a engine, all standard,great rods,still on the standard size,std crank and bore (but a big crack in one),
It has this funny crankshaft ,with the clean out plugs on the outside of the crank,not one the side,
all the pistons have FORD Canada on them.
Any one seen one like it .
Lawrie

ford38v8 · 01-20-2019, 12:56 AM

Lawrie, this link to a Bill Boomer article on crankshafts may be of help to you.

http://www.goldengatev8.org/docs/merccrankid.pdf

Brian · 01-20-2019, 12:56 AM

Yes, Someone on fordbarn posted photos of the same style crankshaft a coupla years back.

40 Deluxe · 01-20-2019, 01:49 AM

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Originally Posted by ford38v8

Lawrie, this link to a Bill Boomer article on crankshafts may be of help to you.

http://www.goldengatev8.org/docs/merccrankid.pdf

Well, no chance of it being a 4" Merc crank! It only has one oil hole per throw!

rotorwrench · 01-20-2019, 11:16 AM

The Windsor, Ontario foundry did things differently than the Rouge. That may have been a Canadian wartime engine. This is where I still have a lot to learn about just what was different in the Canadian engines versus USA engines. Most all USA engines had the clean outs. That may have been a Canadian version. It lightened the crank and provided a last chance centrifugal filtering system for the con rod bearings. I also don't know of any aftermarket crankshafts but it might be possible.

KiWinUS · 01-20-2019, 11:47 AM

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I have a crank like that also , came in the first flathead I brought when just 15 & still have it. My engine would have been built in Canada I believe. It will get built this year but with a 4 1/8" crank, already have it cleaned & have sonic checked it. Has "19" cast into right front of block , factory relieved, 3 3/16 +.060 & bores are close to .157" thick everywhere I checked it. It will get bored to 3.375
Cheers
Tony

Ol' Ron · 01-20-2019, 12:14 PM

Never seen one like it. Seen a few 4" cranks with small clean out plugs tho.

macdonge · 01-20-2019, 03:28 PM

I have a Canadian-built 99 engine (keystone block, see my avatar) with the original crank. No such cleanouts on mine.

Lawrie · 01-20-2019, 03:30 PM

I think Kiwi has it,as the engine has ford canada pistons,is still standard bores they would be original you would think.
and most stuff here in Australia came from Canada.
Lawrie

KiWinUS · 01-20-2019, 03:37 PM

I believe mine even has the same square head pipe plug.

VeryTangled · 01-20-2019, 05:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KiWinUS

I have a crank like that also , came in the first flathead I brought when just 15 & still have it.
Cheers
Tony

Epic. Okay Now you guys are making me wipe my eyes!

Brian · 01-20-2019, 10:36 PM

Here you go...I said I'd seen a thread on here previously about this style crankshaft;
https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/showt...ugs+crankshaft

Lawrie · 01-21-2019, 01:35 AM

Brian I have a couple of blocks with the oil passage coming across from just above the engine stay rod hole on the bell housing.
None drilled though.
I looked at the one on the engine I,m doing at the moment and tried to work out how to make it work with a filter,
I think that the rear main stayed in the circuit from the pump before the filter or cooler.
Lawrie

Brian · 01-21-2019, 03:50 AM

The French blocks have an oil hole eminating from that position

4tford · 01-21-2019, 06:59 AM

I have 2 of those. One NOS came in this crate

01-20-2019, 12:56 AM	#2
ford38v8 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: SF Bay Area Posts: 6,634	Re: strange crankshaft Lawrie, this link to a Bill Boomer article on crankshafts may be of help to you. http://www.goldengatev8.org/docs/merccrankid.pdf __________________ Alan

01-20-2019, 12:56 AM	#3
Brian Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Masterton, New Zealand Posts: 3,828	Re: strange crankshaft Yes, Someone on fordbarn posted photos of the same style crankshaft a coupla years back. __________________ Unfortunately, two half wits don't make a whole wit!

01-20-2019, 11:16 AM	#5
rotorwrench Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: San Antonio, Texas Posts: 16,422	Re: strange crankshaft The Windsor, Ontario foundry did things differently than the Rouge. That may have been a Canadian wartime engine. This is where I still have a lot to learn about just what was different in the Canadian engines versus USA engines. Most all USA engines had the clean outs. That may have been a Canadian version. It lightened the crank and provided a last chance centrifugal filtering system for the con rod bearings. I also don't know of any aftermarket crankshafts but it might be possible.

01-20-2019, 11:47 AM	#6
KiWinUS Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Charlotte NC KiWi-L100 available here Posts: 2,954	Re: strange crankshaft Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements) I have a crank like that also , came in the first flathead I brought when just 15 & still have it. My engine would have been built in Canada I believe. It will get built this year but with a 4 1/8" crank, already have it cleaned & have sonic checked it. Has "19" cast into right front of block , factory relieved, 3 3/16 +.060 & bores are close to .157" thick everywhere I checked it. It will get bored to 3.375 Cheers Tony

01-20-2019, 12:14 PM	#7
Ol' Ron Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Chester Vt Posts: 8,855	Re: strange crankshaft Never seen one like it. Seen a few 4" cranks with small clean out plugs tho.

01-20-2019, 03:28 PM	#8
macdonge Senior Member Join Date: May 2015 Location: Frelighsburg, QC Posts: 166	Re: strange crankshaft I have a Canadian-built 99 engine (keystone block, see my avatar) with the original crank. No such cleanouts on mine.

01-20-2019, 03:30 PM	#9
Lawrie Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Qld, Australia Posts: 4,212	Re: strange crankshaft I think Kiwi has it,as the engine has ford canada pistons,is still standard bores they would be original you would think. and most stuff here in Australia came from Canada. Lawrie

01-20-2019, 03:37 PM	#10
KiWinUS Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Charlotte NC KiWi-L100 available here Posts: 2,954	Re: strange crankshaft I believe mine even has the same square head pipe plug.

01-20-2019, 10:36 PM	#12
Brian Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Masterton, New Zealand Posts: 3,828	Re: strange crankshaft Here you go...I said I'd seen a thread on here previously about this style crankshaft; https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/showt...ugs+crankshaft __________________ Unfortunately, two half wits don't make a whole wit!

01-21-2019, 01:35 AM	#13
Lawrie Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Qld, Australia Posts: 4,212	Re: strange crankshaft Brian I have a couple of blocks with the oil passage coming across from just above the engine stay rod hole on the bell housing. None drilled though. I looked at the one on the engine I,m doing at the moment and tried to work out how to make it work with a filter, I think that the rear main stayed in the circuit from the pump before the filter or cooler. Lawrie

01-21-2019, 03:50 AM	#14
Brian Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Masterton, New Zealand Posts: 3,828	Re: strange crankshaft The French blocks have an oil hole eminating from that position __________________ Unfortunately, two half wits don't make a whole wit!

01-21-2019, 06:59 AM	#15
4tford Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Regina Canada Posts: 1,335	Re: strange crankshaft I have 2 of those. One NOS came in this crate Last edited by 4tford; 08-05-2020 at 08:00 AM.