Two-Door Ford and Mercury Wagons

[KULTULZ]

Originally Posted by KULTULZ

Hmm...

Got me again. I was thinking of the no glass frame door and did not think of the B-Pillar...



You must be allergic to wool as I seem to be having a difficult time trying to pull it over your eyes...

sheesh ...

... hmm... NOMAD - CROWN VIC - Later RANCHERO ... curses ...

It seems I am not the only one. FORD ENGINEERING missed a few classes too...

[quote]The 2-Door Pillared Hardtop

Let’s stop beating around the bush with such polite descriptions of the ’70s as The Great Brougham Epoch, The Faux Luxury Era, The Loose-Pillow Era, The Malaise Era, The Bordello Era, et al. In truth, the decade was The Stupid Era.



How the hell else to explain this roof design: Two stupid fixed panes that in no way way line up with or relate to each other. It’s as though PPG called up Ford and said, “Hey, we’ve got a couple hundred thousand little window panes in two odd sizes, and we really need to get rid of them. We’ll make you a deal.” and Ford replied,”Yeah, send ’em on over. We’ll make ’em fit somehow.” And so they did.

Incredibly, Ford actually managed to top that stroke of genius with what must be the stupidest name ever coined: The 2-Door Pillared Hardtop. How stupid did they think we were?
SOURCE- http://www.curbsideclassic.com/curbs...f-design-ever/ __________________

[KULTULZ]

Originally Posted by KULTULZ

Hmm...

Got me again. I was thinking of the no glass frame door and did not think of the B-Pillar...



You must be allergic to wool as I seem to be having a difficult time trying to pull it over your eyes...

sheesh ...

... hmm... NOMAD - CROWN VIC - Later RANCHERO ... curses ...

It seems I am not the only one. FORD ENGINEERING missed a few classes too...

The 2-Door Pillared Hardtop

Let’s stop beating around the bush with such polite descriptions of the ’70s as The Great Brougham Epoch, The Faux Luxury Era, The Loose-Pillow Era, The Malaise Era, The Bordello Era, et al. In truth, the decade was The Stupid Era.



How the hell else to explain this roof design: Two stupid fixed panes that in no way way line up with or relate to each other. It’s as though PPG called up Ford and said, “Hey, we’ve got a couple hundred thousand little window panes in two odd sizes, and we really need to get rid of them. We’ll make you a deal.” and Ford replied,”Yeah, send ’em on over. We’ll make ’em fit somehow.” And so they did.

Incredibly, Ford actually managed to top that stroke of genius with what must be the stupidest name ever coined: The 2-Door Pillared Hardtop. How stupid did they think we were?
SOURCE- http://www.curbsideclassic.com/curbs...f-design-ever/ __________________

[Alaska Jim]

Well I tried the link I first posted and it worked when clicking on it, but it did not work when I typed it in my search eng. It takes you to the same Hot rod site that I posted in the second post link. sorry for the confusion. If you read the article, near the bottom of the page , it says click to view all 9 photos in the article.

[scicala]

Thanks so much Jim. I'll check it out. Good job. Your a good investigator.

Sal

[mercman from oz]

In Post 24, I showed a 1961 Ford Falcon Two Door Wagon that I saw in the USA. Imagine my surprise when I attended a local Swap Meet in Australia and saw a near identical 1961 Ford Falcon Two Door Wagon, a recent import from the USA.

[scicala]

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Yes, I agree. Other than the galaxie full wheel covers on the other one, they appear identical.

Sal

[dmsfrr]

The car in post 24 doesn't have the roof rack & it's rub strips.

It's unusual that you came across two that are so similar, and they're still around.

.

[mercman from oz]

Here is another picture of the 1961 Ford Falcon Two Door Wagon in the USA. The Owner must have changed the 4 Stud 13" Wheels for 5 Stud 14" Wheels, otherwise the Galaxie Hubcaps would not have fitted. It is a pity that the front and rear hubcaps were not matching. The rears are 1962 Galaxie and the front 1963 Galaxie XL, judging from the Spinners. The same setup was on the other side. He could have put the matching Hubcaps on each side, which would have looked better. As has been mentioned, these are two different wagons. I had never seen one prior to seeing the one in the USA, then a few months later, I see a near identical one here, which is absolutely incredible.

[Alaska Jim]

yeah, you just don't see them very often up here in Alaska. there used to be several here in Anchorage in the mid '70's but the owners never wanted to sell them, and they all seemed to have gone to the great scrap yard in the sky, as I have not seen one up here for at least 15 years now, maybe longer

[mercman from oz]

I had never seen one before this year when I spotted one in California, then spotted a second one a few months later after I returned back home. Unbelievable. we had Falcon Wagons in Australia, but they didn't receive the annual upgrades that the USA models received, and no two door model was ever offered. Also, our local Falcon Wagons were shorter that the USA Wagons. The extra overhang of the USA models was too much for our road systems.

[mercman from oz]

Here is another Ford 2 door wagon from my files. 1954 Ford Ranch Wagon in Australia, still wearing California Plates.

[Alaska Jim]

I always wanted a 52-54 2dr wagon , never got one. guess I did not want it as bad as some others.

[BlacktopScraper]

Here's my '55

[mercman from oz]

BlacktopScraper, you didn't attach a picture?

[KULTULZ]

1958 EDSEL ROUNDUP

[scicala]

So it sounds like the only difference between a Courier and Ranch Wagon in 1960 was the model emblem on the quarter panel. Not doubting it at all, but sounds strange and redundant.

Sal

[KULTULZ]

Originally Posted by scicala

So it sounds like the only difference between a Courier and Ranch Wagon in 1960 was the model emblem on the quarter panel. Not doubting it at all, but sounds strange and redundant.

Sal

I would imagine the Interior Trim Level/Option List was different and the suspension ratings.

You may find this interesting also-

1959 Tudor Ranch Wagon (59C)
1959 Tudor Ranch Wagon "Country Sedan" (59D)
1959 Tudor Ranch Wagon "Courier" (59E)

[scicala]

KULTLZ,

Thank you for the '59 model numbers.

When I looked closely at the picture of the blue '60 Courier that you posted in post #80, I could see there didn't appear to be a 2nd row seat, and also it appeared the front seat was only on the driver's side. I realize these are actuall artist drawings and not photos, but still usually accurate.

Sal

[KULTULZ]

Originally Posted by scicala

KULTLZ,

Thank you for the '59 model numbers.

When I looked closely at the picture of the blue '60 Courier that you posted in post #80, I could see there didn't appear to be a 2nd row seat, and also it appeared the front seat was only on the driver's side. I realize these are actuall artist drawings and not photos, but still usually accurate.

Sal

You have a good eye for detail. I guess that is why you are a carb specialist...

I went back into the period MPC and the 1960 FORD Courier (59E - only) shows two separate seats as opposed to the regular one piece tilt forward back bench seat.

I would a$$-u-me that the passenger side folds down. Not sure as that detail is not mentioned. Maybe a Shop, Owners and/or Assembly Manual of that year would give more detail.

See Ill below.

[KULTULZ]

- http://www.dailyturismo.com/2017/06/...d-courier.html

According to the seller "this wagon was call a courier for it came with no back seat and hard to fine." The Courier was a Sedan Delivery version that skipped back seats and instead gave you more room to haul your junk.

I may find myself corrected (again).

The folding rear seat MPC Ill only refers to Body Type 59. It does not actually infer either 59C and/or 59E.



I need a 60 Shop Manual...