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Old 07-11-2021, 10:23 PM   #1
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Default What antique cars are these? Not Model A

We passed 2 cars on the freeway today.
The first was a 1950s Buick, but I don't know what year or model it was.

The second car was much older, but I'm not sure what it was.

Can anyone identify both cars from these 6 pictures?

Thank you in advance.
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Old 07-11-2021, 10:41 PM   #2
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1950s Buick and maybe a 1913 Model T Ford.
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My guess on the Buick is a 1951 or 1952….
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Old 07-12-2021, 12:37 AM   #4
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1953 Buick Roadmaster I think.
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Old 07-12-2021, 02:04 AM   #5
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Mystery car is a 1953 Buick Roadmaster Rivera Sedan
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No idea on the second car, interesting note, the Roadmaster was the high end buick, had 4 circles on the fender, all the other buicks had 3.
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Old 07-12-2021, 12:17 PM   #7
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Its hard to see for sure if the Buick has the 4th 'exhaust' hole or not. It kinda sorta looks as if it does, that would make a Roadmaster. 1953 I think too.

The other looks like a brass Ford T. I'm not completely up on Ts, but, I think the brass ended in '16.
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No idea on the second car, interesting note, the Roadmaster was the high end buick, had 4 circles on the fender, all the other buicks had 3.
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Its hard to see for sure if the Buick has the 4th 'exhaust' hole or not. It kinda sorta looks as if it does, that would make a Roadmaster. 1953 I think too.

The other looks like a brass Ford T. I'm not completely up on Ts, but, I think the brass ended in '16.

Yup. You can see just the edge of the fourth porthole in the OP pic but it's there.
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Thank you everyone.

The second car was blue in color, so I did not think it was a Model T.
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The second car is a 1913 Model T Ford. The early Fords were painted different colors and the dark blue was one of them. The 1913 Model T had the slanted lower windshield and the braces for the windshield on the side.

Early tires were white. The addition of carbon black to later tires turned them black and increased the mileage one could expect on the tires. The early tires also did not have tread. The owner of the Model T has put the authentic tires on the car and kept the original color. The rear tires are larger than the front tires. The rims are not demountable so that a flat was fixed on the car. Spare tires were carried, which is where we get the expression of a spare "tire" even though we all carry spare wheels with tires mounted.

The painted cans on the running board are for oil, water, and gasoline. The cylinder at the rear of the cans is an acetylene generator to supply gas for the headlights. Water was dripped on carbide to generate the gas.
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The second car is a 1913 Model T Ford. The early Fords were painted different colors and the dark blue was one of them. The 1913 Model T had the slanted lower windshield and the braces for the windshield on the side.

Early tires were white. The addition of carbon black to later tires turned them black and increased the mileage one could expect on the tires. The early tires also did not have tread. The owner of the Model T has put the authentic tires on the car and kept the original color. The rear tires are larger than the front tires. The rims are not demountable so that a flat was fixed on the car. Spare tires were carried, which is where we get the expression of a spare "tire" even though we all carry spare wheels with tires mounted.

The painted cans on the running board are for oil, water, and gasoline. The cylinder at the rear of the cans is an acetylene generator to supply gas for the headlights. Water was dripped on carbide to generate the gas.
Anyone who has complained about the poor headlights on a model A should ride a few blocks in a T lit by acetylene lights. Downright scary.
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nkaminar nailed it!

The acetylene headlights....remember the speed limit was 12MPH.
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Couldn't remember when Ford started painting all the Ts black. Guess now I know, again.
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There's a Ruckstell rear axle in that T.
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Thank you everyone.

The second car was blue in color, so I did not think it was a Model T.
The black only thing was only between sometime in 1915 and 1925.
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The Buick is not an Antique Car, it is a Special Interest Car.

The Model T is an antique.

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The Buick is not an Antique Car, it is a Special Interest Car.

The Model T is an antique.

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It depends on your definition of antique.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antique

At home, here, a vehicle over 25 years old can be registered as an antique.

I can't see the plate on the Buick clear enough to see what type of plate it is.
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Old 07-14-2021, 06:57 PM   #18
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The Model T is an antique.

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Many obviously consider a vehicle an antique much sooner than you do.

The Antique Auto Club of America (AACA) defines an antique vehicle as 25 years old. The 1953 Buick is now 68 years old.

Was a 1931 Model A not considered an antique long before 1999 when it was 68 years old??
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