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09-27-2014, 03:33 PM | #41 | |
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Re: UPDATE - Horn Rod/Light Switch Fiasco!
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Thanks. So you suggest I go with the nylon washer over the steel as a spacer under the switch? I totally thank you for your words of wisdom, although I haven't drank in 26 years I did decide to take a break for a couple days, had a cigar and a cup of coffee and reflected on the problem. It's a learning experience and I love learning especially about Model A's. |
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09-27-2014, 07:00 PM | #42 |
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Re: UPDATE - Horn Rod/Light Switch Fiasco!
With the switch not clipped in place, can you easily turn the horn rod lever to the lighting positions, 7, 6, 5, and 4 O'clock?
It should turn very easily and not try to turn the steering wheel as you turn the switch. |
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09-27-2014, 07:15 PM | #43 | |
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With the spider, spring and clip in but the light switch NOT attached the switch turns to those positions, but when you turn the wheel the switch still turns whether the switch is connected or not. |
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09-27-2014, 09:36 PM | #44 |
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Re: UPDATE - Horn Rod/Light Switch Fiasco!
Coffee is good. I like a coke Classic. Anyway, I don't understand why the horn rod turns with the wheel when the light switch is properly installed. 1930 coupe above (post 45) has the washer thing explained much better than I could. Are you using a reproduction wiring harness? I think We need someone close by to take a look.
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09-27-2014, 09:44 PM | #45 | |
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Yes I have all "new" reproduction parts from Snyder's out of the box last week. New wiring harness, light switch body, light switch and horn rod, copper bushing, spider, spring, clip, bail wire. |
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09-27-2014, 10:33 PM | #46 | |
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09-27-2014, 10:54 PM | #47 |
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A picture of the contact plate and a picture of the 3 brass contacts would help us see if it's the problem. I haven't seen flat contacts on the repro harness, but you never know.
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09-28-2014, 08:59 AM | #48 | |
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Here are the pictures you requested. Hope this helps Scott |
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09-28-2014, 09:10 AM | #49 |
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Re: UPDATE - Horn Rod/Light Switch Fiasco!
A couple of questions keep mulling around in my head as I take a day or two off from this project but it's ever present in my mind. So I thought I'd throw my questions out there.
Thanks again guys for all the great help you've given me so far. Together we'll get this fixed, I'm sure of it! |
09-28-2014, 09:28 AM | #50 |
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Re: UPDATE - Horn Rod/Light Switch Fiasco!
Those two parts look fine to me and I don't see why they shouldn't work without modifying them.
Are you sure the contact plate is getting pressed all the way forward when the rear cap is in place? Are you sure the spider is locked to the rod by the C clip? Are you sure the C clip is properly engaging the switch? Are you sure the bail wire is holding the switch tight to the steering box? All 4 questions need to be yes! |
09-28-2014, 09:36 AM | #51 | |
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See my answers above. |
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09-28-2014, 10:25 AM | #52 |
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Re: UPDATE - Horn Rod/Light Switch Fiasco!
I may be way off with this but are we sure this is the correct length horn rod? I believe there were 5 different lengths and they did not vary by much at all. If the dimpled contacts do not sit firmly in the detents on the brass contacts it will not work....
It is possible the wrong one has been in there for a while. I find wrong parts in cars all the time and the question always becomes, not "why won't it work now" but "why did it work at all" look at the vendors catalogues. Brattons at least (maybe others) tells you how to measure for what you need. Is there a spider spring present? This was mentioned but I don't recall seeing an answer
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09-28-2014, 11:06 AM | #53 | |
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09-28-2014, 11:14 AM | #54 |
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Re: UPDATE - Horn Rod/Light Switch Fiasco!
It still may not be the correct one for your steering column.
I would read what Bratton's has to say about taking the measurement, then measure just for kicks. I realize this is a longshot, but when you are having this much trouble with something, you have to go back to basics and check and recheck everything In any event once you figure it out (it will end up being something totally ridiculous) please post back so we can all learn
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09-28-2014, 11:24 AM | #55 |
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Re: UPDATE - Horn Rod/Light Switch Fiasco!
My mistake on #3. I meant to say spider, not C clip. The spider must engage the slots in the switch correctly, so the spider should be at 6 and 12 O'clock and the switch should be in the off position.
Is the cup on the bottom of the steering in the correct position, so the wires exit out the top and not out the bottom? |
09-28-2014, 12:52 PM | #56 | |
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09-28-2014, 12:53 PM | #57 | |
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Yes the spider is at 12 and 6 and the wires exit out of the top of the switch. |
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09-29-2014, 10:14 AM | #58 |
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Re: UPDATE - VIDEO of Horn Rod/Light Switch
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I shot some video this morning and hopefully you guys can take a look and let me know your thoughts on this problem I'm trying to tackle. http://youtu.be/9xOeMRTM-xw |
09-29-2014, 10:41 AM | #59 |
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Re: UPDATE - VIDEO of Horn Rod/Light Switch
You have original parts on the left in your video. Use them if you can. Regarding your light rod turning, mine did the same thing with the brass ferrule in place. I know it's supposed to be there, but I removed mine and it then worked OK. Your light rod has to be perfectly straight, though, or it will turn regardless. Good video, by the way.
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09-29-2014, 10:42 AM | #60 |
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Re: UPDATE - VIDEO of Horn Rod/Light Switch
from what i see the fit on your horn rod is good... it will rotate until you install the light switch which will add resistance.
why dont you use the original light switch and cover??? i dont believe the repo switch and original cover interchange correctly..i could be wrong on that but i remember my orig and repo did not mate together right.. |
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