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Pre1898 · 05-29-2021, 06:10 PM

A friend was cleaning up his property and gave me this rear end / front end but not sure what year it is ? He thought 36 1/2 ton pickup but not so sure ???

Thx dusty

Andy · 05-29-2021, 06:23 PM

Looks like 39 to me.

Ggmac · 05-29-2021, 06:33 PM

I was going to say 40-41 . 39 has got wide 5 bolt so it could be . Im sure someone with more knowledge will chime in . If you can post pics of the spindle back , round or squared , and the drums , if it has any will help .

Andy · 05-29-2021, 06:35 PM

The first pic shows wide five. Wide five and hyd. brakes 39 only

Pre1898 · 05-29-2021, 06:40 PM

More pics attached. Thanks.

V8COOPMAN · 05-29-2021, 08:51 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Pre1898

More pics attached. Thanks.

Must agree with "Andy" ......the two assemblies LIKELY came out of a '39, if not assembled from parts.

But here is a breakdown of the individual pieces that WILL interchange easily.

Drums are 1937-'39. '36 FRONTS would not fit that spindle.

I-beam ....'37-'41.

Wishbone ....'37-'40.

Spindle ....'37-'40. (Drag link fitting from bottom indicates NOT '41)

Backing plates ....'39-'41.

Rear end ....Could be '37-'40. Drilled radius rods (for clamps) indicate '39-'40.

Rear radius rods/torque tube ....'37-'40 (as pictured)

bbrocksr · 05-30-2021, 12:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Andy

Looks like 39 to me.

Looks like Andy got it .

Bill

JM 35 Sedan · 05-30-2021, 10:06 AM

Those front & rear assemblies could have been previously used under a '36 1/2 ton pickup, since they will bolt right in place, but they are most likely both originally from a '39 passenger car or light commercial vehicle.
It would be interesting to see what gear ratio is in the rear.

V8COOPMAN · 05-30-2021, 11:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JM 35 Sedan

Those front & rear assemblies could have been used under a '36 1/2 ton pickup, but they are most likely all originally from a '39 passenger or light commercial vehicle.
It would be interesting to see what gear ratio is in the rear.

As noted up in post #6, '36 drum won't fit the ROUND '37-'40 spindles....the LONG snout. '36 FRONT drum (left) is a "ONE-year-only".

'36 REAR end radius rods (just like YOUR '35s) BOLT-ON to flanges welded to the axle housings...'35-'36-ONLY.

Ggmac · 05-30-2021, 01:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Andy

The first pic shows wide five. Wide five and hyd. brakes 39 only

You are correct, I completely missed it .

JM 35 Sedan · 05-30-2021, 03:38 PM

Coopman, I think you misunderstood or misinterpreted what I said in my post #8. Going back to the original post, Pre1898 said the guy who gave him those assemblies, (his friend), "thought" they may have been '36 1/2 ton pickup.
What I said was those assemblies could have been "used" under a '36 pickup, ....meaning someone could have assembled the complete '39 front end and rear end "assemblies" under a '36 pu, because they will fit and bolt right up, and would be a quick way to get hydraulic brakes.
I realize that '36 front drums won't work on '37-'40 spindles, and '35-'36 rear wishbones are different from '37-'40 rear wishbones, and bolt to rear differently.

Pre1898 · 05-31-2021, 06:31 PM

Thanks everyone for the kind help very much appreciated !!!

05-29-2021, 06:23 PM	#2
Andy Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Kerrville, Tx Posts: 2,769	Re: Help ID this Rear End Please Looks like 39 to me.

05-29-2021, 06:33 PM	#3
Ggmac Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2016 Location: Lake worth Florida Posts: 1,099	Re: Help ID this Rear End Please I was going to say 40-41 . 39 has got wide 5 bolt so it could be . Im sure someone with more knowledge will chime in . If you can post pics of the spindle back , round or squared , and the drums , if it has any will help .

05-29-2021, 06:35 PM	#4
Andy Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Kerrville, Tx Posts: 2,769	Re: Help ID this Rear End Please The first pic shows wide five. Wide five and hyd. brakes 39 only

05-29-2021, 06:40 PM	#5
Pre1898 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Arizona Posts: 205	Re: Help ID this Rear End Please More pics attached. Thanks.

05-30-2021, 03:38 PM	#11
JM 35 Sedan Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Near Rising Sun, Maryland Posts: 10,858	Re: Help ID this Rear End Please Coopman, I think you misunderstood or misinterpreted what I said in my post #8. Going back to the original post, Pre1898 said the guy who gave him those assemblies, (his friend), "thought" they may have been '36 1/2 ton pickup. What I said was those assemblies could have been "used" under a '36 pickup, ....meaning someone could have assembled the complete '39 front end and rear end "assemblies" under a '36 pu, because they will fit and bolt right up, and would be a quick way to get hydraulic brakes. I realize that '36 front drums won't work on '37-'40 spindles, and '35-'36 rear wishbones are different from '37-'40 rear wishbones, and bolt to rear differently. __________________ *John* *"Never give up on what you really want to do. The person with big dreams is more powerful than one with all the facts". Albert Einstein* Last edited by JM 35 Sedan; 05-30-2021 at 03:46 PM.

05-30-2021, 10:06 AM	#8
JM 35 Sedan Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Near Rising Sun, Maryland Posts: 10,858	Re: Help ID this Rear End Please Those front & rear assemblies could have been previously used under a '36 1/2 ton pickup, since they will bolt right in place, but they are most likely both originally from a '39 passenger car or light commercial vehicle. It would be interesting to see what gear ratio is in the rear. __________________ *John* *"Never give up on what you really want to do. The person with big dreams is more powerful than one with all the facts". Albert Einstein* Last edited by JM 35 Sedan; 06-01-2021 at 07:56 AM.

05-31-2021, 06:31 PM	#12
Pre1898 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Arizona Posts: 205	Re: Help ID this Rear End Please Thanks everyone for the kind help very much appreciated !!!