Mounting ‘Tubman’ condenser on dome distributor

[34 fordor owner]

Originally Posted by Lanny

If you get it to start with the 6 volt hot wire, don't run it very
long, maybe a minuet or so is about all.





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I took the coil wire off and itself alone is getting 6.2 volts which is good. When I put it back on the coil it has 2.3 like yesterday. I was thinking could this be caused by the ‘springy part’ of the coil grounding to the housing?

[petehoovie]

The 2.3 volt reading could result from any high resistance connection/component in the circuit to the coil including connections at the resistor and ignition switch. Just this past summer, I had to replace the original resistor and ignition switch in my '34 in order to get the proper/correct voltage readings at the coil...

[34 fordor owner]

Originally Posted by petehoovie

The 2.3 volt reading could result from any high resistance connection/component in the circuit to the coil including connections at the resistor and ignition switch. Just this past summer, I had to replace the original resistor and ignition switch in my '34 in order to get the proper/correct voltage readings at the coil...

I took the coil off to test this and with the coil off and wire connected I get 6.3 to the coil so it is something at the distributor throwing the volts off.

[Mart]

Try and get the distributor to the position where the points are open. (No continuity to ground). Then refit the coil and check you still have your 6.3 Volts.

The lower voltage reading you are seeing may be perfectly normal if the points are closed. (not sure).

Just checking - are you getting any sign of a spark at a plug, yet?

Mart.

[petehoovie]

Originally Posted by 34 fordor owner

I took the coil off to test this and with the coil off and wire connected I get 6.3 to the coil so it is something at the distributor throwing the volts off.

Voltage readings at the coil with coil mounted on distributor:
With the ignition switch on you should have 6 volts at the coil if the points are open and about 3.5 to 4 volts at the coil if the points are closed - The 2.3 volts you are reading is too low with the points closed. You can tell when the points are open or closed by the change in voltage as measured at the coil. With the ignition switch on, bump the starter a little bit to observe the change in voltage....

[34 fordor owner]

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Originally Posted by petehoovie

Voltage readings at the coil with coil mounted on distributor:
With the ignition switch on you should have 6 volts at the coil if the points are open and about 3.5 to 4 volts at the coil if the points are closed - The 2.3 volts you are reading is too low with the points closed. You can tell when the points are open or closed by the change in voltage as measured at the coil. With the ignition switch on, bump the starter a little bit to observe the change in voltage....

Hey everyone I have some good news and some bad news. I bought a NOS condenser to see if that would do anything and I got it in today and I now have spark. That’s the good news! The somewhat bad news is when trying to start it, it kicked over 2 times as if it wanted to start but it didn’t start all the way and I couldn’t get it to kick over again. So I have spark and it wanted to start but it wouldn’t do it again.

Also I have 6.3 with points open 2.5 with points closed.

[34 fordor owner]

Originally Posted by 34 fordor owner

Hey everyone I have some good news and some bad news. I bought a NOS condenser to see if that would do anything and I got it in today and I now have spark. That’s the good news! The somewhat bad news is when trying to start it, it kicked over 2 times as if it wanted to start but it didn’t start all the way and I couldn’t get it to kick over again. So I have spark and it wanted to start but it wouldn’t do it again.

Also I have 6.3 with points open 2.5 with points closed.

My concerns are on timing, I also want to make sure the tail pip is clear as it had been sitting in a garage/barn with evidence of mice. Also the low dip in the voltage when points are closed, should that be a concern?

[Lanny]

hi Chris, Are you sure it's still getting gas, and/or maybe it's flooded.

Also, do you have someone you can get to hold a hand over the end
of the exhaust pipe, to see if some air is coming out there, when you
turn it over ? The odds of it being plugged solid is very slim.




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[34 fordor owner]

Originally Posted by Lanny

hi Chris, Are you sure it's still getting gas, and/or maybe it's flooded.

Also, do you have someone you can get to hold a hand over the end
of the exhaust pipe, to see if some air is coming out there, when you
turn it over ? The odds of it being plugged solid is very slim.




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It is possible it’s flooded but I only pumped the pedal 4 or 5 times so if it is what would I do? And there is air coming out I noticed it has been blowing stuff out of the exhaust pipe like a few chewed pecans.

[Lanny]

Pull some spark plugs and see if the electrodes are wet or not.
If the plugs are pretty dry looking, then maybe spray a little
starting fluid into the carb and see if it will try to start.




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[34 fordor owner]

Originally Posted by Lanny

Pull some spark plugs and see if the electrodes are wet or not.
If the plugs are pretty dry looking, then maybe spray a little
starting fluid into the carb and see if it will try to start.




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Check this video out. Progress from the other video. This is trying to start it with half of choke and a good squirt of starting fluid. What do y’all think?

https://youtube.com/shorts/S3mq0LW27AM?feature=share

[petehoovie]

Have you done a compression check? What are the engines compression values? Check to see if the engine has decent compression....

[34 fordor owner]

Originally Posted by petehoovie

Have you done a compression check? What are the engines compression values? Check to see if the engine has decent compression....

I have not done this because I don’t know how. Could you explain or point me in the right direction?

[petehoovie]

Originally Posted by 34 fordor owner

I have not done this because I don’t know how. Could you explain or point me in the right direction?

Watch these videos for the procedure > https://www.youtube.com/results?sear...on+test+engine

OR, if you don't want to do the compression test, you can remove the spark plugs and squirt a little motor oil into each cylinder. Replace the spark plugs and then try to start the engine....

Four-Stroke = Intake - Compression - Combustion - Exhaust

[34 fordor owner]

Originally Posted by petehoovie

Watch these videos for the procedure > https://www.youtube.com/results?sear...on+test+engine

OR, if you don't want to do the compression test, you can remove the spark plugs and squirt a little motor oil into each cylinder. Replace the spark plugs and then try to start the engine....

Four-Stroke = Intake - Compression - Combustion - Exhaust

Still fighting it, shot of oil in the spark plug holes didn’t do the trick. Plan to rent a compression tester from advance auto.
I was thinking about switching to 12 volt so I could switch to a electric distributor. This would prevent from a future battle with the distributor and spark. What are y’all’s take on 12volt?

Thank you to all for the help!

[petehoovie]

Contact the people in the Early Ford V8 Club nearest you and try to get some in-person help with your starting problem....

NC
Piedmont (RG# 52)

920 Elderberry Lane
Clover, NC 60196
Contact: Michael Palmer
EM: [email protected]
PH: 803-831-9413
NC
Central Carolina (RG# 16)

382 JL Temple Road
Lexington, NC 27295
Contact: Jay Temple
EM: [email protected]
PH: 336-956-4438
NC
Blue Ridge V-8 (RG# 146)

246 Lakewood Drive
Wilkesboro, NC 28697
Contact: James Cashman
EM: [email protected]
PH: 336-921-3729

[Lanny]

Originally Posted by 34 fordor owner

Still fighting it, shot of oil in the spark plug holes didn’t do the trick. Plan to rent a compression tester from advance auto.
I was thinking about switching to 12 volt so I could switch to a electric distributor. This would prevent from a future battle with the distributor and spark. What are y’all’s take on 12volt?

Thank you to all for the help!

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Chris, when doing a compression test, use a long screw driver or something
to hold the bottom throttle plate open on the carb. You want the cylinders
to be able to suck a lot of air into each cylinder so you get an accurate
compression reading.




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[34 fordor owner]

Originally Posted by petehoovie

Contact the people in the Early Ford V8 Club nearest you and try to get some in-person help with your starting problem....

NC
Piedmont (RG# 52)

920 Elderberry Lane
Clover, NC 60196
Contact: Michael Palmer
EM: [email protected]
PH: 803-831-9413
NC
Central Carolina (RG# 16)

382 JL Temple Road
Lexington, NC 27295
Contact: Jay Temple
EM: [email protected]
PH: 336-956-4438
NC
Blue Ridge V-8 (RG# 146)

246 Lakewood Drive
Wilkesboro, NC 28697
Contact: James Cashman
EM: [email protected]
PH: 336-921-3729

Thank you for this! I knew of the club but had no idea I had people this close to me in the club. I will try and contact some tomorrow!

[koates]

In all the posts so far you have not convinced me that you have tested at one spark plug for a good spark. And now you are talking about 12 volts and electronic distributor. Dont even think about it and just fix the excellent 6 volt ignition that the car came with. Forget about testing voltages and just test to see if you are getting spark at the plug leads. By the way your engine is cranking over on the starter at a nice speed as it should and it is not too fast as has been mentioned earlier. Pull one spark plug lead off the spark plug and hold it about 1/4"inch away from a head stud nut and crank the engine on the starter. You should get a red/blue TIMED spark meaning that there is some time lag between sparks. Your assumption that the voltage readings you are measuring at the coil are not OK may not be correct. Others have mentioned that these voltage readings can vary quite a bit, so just forget about that at the moment because you are becoming sidetracked with it. Just test that spark as I have outlined and report back. Regards, Kevin.

[Terry,OH]

Why do you have two wires coming out of your coil?