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11-29-2021, 04:50 PM | #41 |
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Re: 1932 clutch issue
What Mart and I are both saying is that it really has nothing to do with having adjusters on the fingers. There are many clutch plates that don't have adjusters - that fit the same application as another manufacturer that has adjusters (same engine, same year, same flywheel). The adjusters are strictly a method for the manufacturer to align the contact surfaces of the fingers with the throw-out bearing. Some Mfgrs use them, some don't . . .
Fact is, there is something wrong with the actual clutch plate, it's design and/or how it interacts with the clutch disc. Having adjusters would NOT change a thing in that the finger contact areas need to be somewhere around 1/2" higher than they are - the reason they aren't high enough, I can't guess from pictures. Having adjusters would not solve the problem. Last edited by Bored&Stroked; 11-29-2021 at 04:56 PM. |
11-29-2021, 07:40 PM | #42 |
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Re: 1932 clutch issue
Ok now I get it. My apologies.
I’ll try with an endoscope to look inside the clutch assy to find out. Last edited by Harold Degand; 11-30-2021 at 12:09 AM. |
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11-29-2021, 08:43 PM | #43 |
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Re: 1932 clutch issue
I was wrong, parts came from Speedway and not Mac’s but it doesn’t matter.
I think I bought the right parts |
12-01-2021, 01:31 PM | #44 |
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Re: 1932 clutch issue
That pressure plate looks way too tall, I have a '41 transmission in mine and it doesn't look as tall as that.
For the best advice and parts go to: http://www.vanpeltsales.com/ He flat knows these transmissions, check out his website. |
12-04-2021, 08:26 AM | #45 |
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Re: 1932 clutch issue
I tried with increasing the length of the pushrod.
If now the bearing come closer the plate, when the bearing return toward the trans, the clutch pedal come back to much |
12-04-2021, 09:26 AM | #46 |
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Re: 1932 clutch issue
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Try and adjust the length so the clutch is just released at about 2/3 of pedal travel. Then see where the pedal sits when just clear of the bearing. Mock up or imagine a floorboard in place which gives both an upper and lower travel limit for the pedal. Mart. |
12-04-2021, 11:33 AM | #47 |
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Re: 1932 clutch issue
Harold, To me you have a 4.2 litre French Marmon engine. Those are like the 8BA but with the 59A style bellhousing.So your flywheel may be different than a 59A.I don't know.You might have to install a sleeve that slips over the collar that the release bearing holder slides on to stop the pedal from retracting to far.I had to do that on a T5 that I installed in my 36 Ford years ago.Here are pics plus one of yours that I edited as its to dark.
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12-04-2021, 12:47 PM | #48 | |
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And you’re right, the floor will limit the movement of the pedal in one way and the other. |
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12-04-2021, 12:50 PM | #49 | |
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The flywheel is the same as a 59a. |
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12-28-2021, 01:32 AM | #50 |
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Re: 1932 clutch issue
Some update of my post
I put the floor back on. I noticed the initial position of the pedals is lower than I thought. So the pushrod is now 1/2’’ to short instead of 1’’. I will remove the stop under the floor and put the extension I make on the rod. Problem will be solved. Thank you all guys for your help ! |
12-28-2021, 05:00 AM | #51 |
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Re: 1932 clutch issue
Hello Harold.
I recently fitted a clutch of the type you show, in place of an older unit with the fingers. The clutch pedal still works, but the release point is lower than it was before. I will have to make an adjustment to bring the pedal up a bit. I will show it in an upcoming video. Mart. |
12-28-2021, 11:25 AM | #52 |
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Re: 1932 clutch issue
I have found that when doing the mock up for pedal position, body on or off, you can clamp a flat piece of steel or wood onto the transmission flat spot where the serial number is to simulate the floorboard location. Not exact, but close enough for it to function, and do a finale adjustment once the floorboards are in place
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09-19-2022, 04:53 AM | #53 | |
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the Marmons had other embossed writings on the bellhousing and a pad to mount the rebuild plaque. plus i have never seen the writing on the back of the engine center part above the bell housing. this is where the marmon had it´s oil filter and more like Cargo or even early Simca. but i may be wrong. Harold: Why didn´t you stick with the 11"clutch? i run a 4.2 marmon with 11"clutch and 39 trans (78case) with no issue . other than popping out of second. but that has nothing to do with the clutch and i´m working on that following are 4.2 Marmon pics. green is cast 1980 by FN black is cast 1975 by FAPS grey is cast 1970 by FAPS (brass rebuild plaque) Last edited by FlatJan; 09-19-2022 at 11:58 AM. |
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09-19-2022, 05:18 AM | #54 |
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Re: 1932 clutch issue
It is a 3.9 Cargo.
I used a 10 in clutch instead the 11 because the weight. |
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