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07-05-2021, 12:21 PM | #41 |
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Re: Economical and effective hydraulic brake conversion.
Hey Jim B,
Thanks for expounding and your details regarding this matter. Your input ‘should provide some important guidelines for everyone to consider. I learned new information from your input…thanks ! You’re correct that we all have an opinion. Some are ingrained opinions and no amount of ‘evidence’ / logic will change that. Those of us who have been here , well… since the beginning, see the same words from the same people. I respect a persons riight to add to any subject. The world changes constantly ! FORD changed too, thanks God ! Or we all might be driving with antique brakes , that is… those who survived. ANYONE….have you EVER heard someone (A owner) tell how their mechanicals didn't stop their car… which ended in tragically?? I haven’t. Been there, done that , and with a completely brand new installed mechanical system…very expensive too !! This is simillar to trying to tell others… NOT to keep/store illegal fireworks , as may hurt/ kill someone. |
07-05-2021, 01:21 PM | #42 |
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07-05-2021, 02:27 PM | #43 |
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Re: Economical and effective hydraulic brake conversion.
Pete,
Which kit is applicable to a stock Model A with stock 19" wheels? I've searched the Wilwood site and can't quite get there.
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07-05-2021, 07:29 PM | #44 | |
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I don't know. I did mine 15 years ago and subsequently sold all the original installation parts when I converted to the race wheels and 8 inch tires. When i put the brakes on initially, I talked to someone at Wilwood to get the right parts. I got a mechanical single puck parking brake assembly also. I still have that. I have ventilated discs also. All race stuff. The really nice thing about the initial installation, there were no mods required to install. It was completely bolt on. |
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07-06-2021, 03:11 AM | #46 |
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07-06-2021, 07:36 AM | #47 |
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Re: Economical and effective hydraulic brake conversion.
Older Audi's had inside out disk brakes where the disks were mounted on the OD and the calipers were on the ID. I wonder is something like that could be used on a Model A so that the calipers would be mostly hidden and the stock wheels would have the correct support. I am not sure why Audi did that.
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07-07-2021, 03:25 PM | #49 |
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Re: Economical and effective hydraulic brake conversion.
There's nothing like the feel of steel from pedal to wheel! You can take that two ways, apparently.
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05-17-2023, 11:36 PM | #50 |
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Re: Economical and effective hydraulic brake conversion.
I'm also looking to upgrade my vintage car's braking system, but the prices I've seen for Bendix/Lincoln kits are out of my budget. I've heard that some people have had success with converting to mechanical disc brakes instead of hydraulic ones like describe here https://www.bikethesites.com/hydraul...l-disc-brakes/ . Has anyone here tried that option? And could you share any advice or resources on making the switch?
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05-18-2023, 08:43 AM | #51 |
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Re: Economical and effective hydraulic brake conversion.
Hello, a properly restored mechanical brake system will work well on a Model A, you will most likely have others that will say the same thing. The trick is to completely rebuild the entire system, new bushings, cast iron drums , and have shoes matched to drums , and remove any slop in rods and Clevis pins, and tracks restored. Many past posts on the barn on brakes . I don’t know how well the mechanical disc brakes would work on a car . I sure you will get more posts on this subject. Good luck.
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05-18-2023, 10:26 AM | #52 | |
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IMO, the biggest improvements you can make to the Model A brakes is to install cast iron drums along with Randy Gross bonded and arced shoes. But everything else needs to be in top condition. Last edited by Y-Blockhead; 05-18-2023 at 05:21 PM. |
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05-18-2023, 11:10 AM | #53 |
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Re: Economical and effective hydraulic brake conversion.
Mechanical or hydraulic, if you can lock up the wheels, then the limiting factor on how well you stop depends on how the rubber grabs the road. The contact area is quite small.
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05-19-2023, 10:55 AM | #55 |
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Re: Economical and effective hydraulic brake conversion.
I'm new to this, but i'll try to contribute.
I don't think people typically run juice brakes with the stock wheelset. I looked at this and was planning on a set of '35 16" spokes. My car is built from orphaned parts, so i'm starting from scratch and have no obligation to the mech setup. As far as cost, here's what i've put into my juice set up: (I like the wide-fives, so i've probably spent more than i might have with 1940+ drums and wheels) Backing plates and good used drums, purchased from several sources, about $450. New wheel cylinders $150 Brake linings and rivets $75 Boling bros battery box/master $400 Spacer kit for front plates from snyders $25 I still need lines and hoses, so consider that. It's less than one of those kits, but it took months to find good used drums. I don't know what i would have spent putting a complete mech brake system together, but it may not have saved much $. |
05-19-2023, 04:53 PM | #56 |
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Re: Economical and effective hydraulic brake conversion.
This is absolutely correct. Cast iron drums mated to turned shoes stop amazingly well and are simple to adjust
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05-26-2023, 05:37 PM | #57 |
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Re: Economical and effective hydraulic brake conversion.
As for the odd Audi brakes with disks which are actually hoops with the calipers grabbing from inside rather than mounted outside the circumference of the disk - I think the theory was to increase the outside diameter of the swept area without increasing the diameter of the wheels. They abandoned it after a while.
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The Model A was the first car to have a safety glass windshield.
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