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Old 08-20-2023, 10:07 PM   #1
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Default 1932-1934 4 cylinder questions

I posted this on the early v8 forums.


I am working on a 1933 pickup with a 4 cylinder. The big water jacket above the water inlet on the side of the motor has been welded shut and machined flat. With the letter F stamped in it

The old head gasket has the water hole in it. The new gasket is solid without a hole

Any idea why it would be welded shut? Besides an old overhead conversion?
And why the new gasket has no hole in it?

I am thinking of re drilling the block and gasket to let the water go through like original

Or is this original or a modification to the block?
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Old 08-20-2023, 10:21 PM   #2
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There is no hole in that location on the B engine block. There is a hole on the head side for casting reasons – it helps get the sand out, or something like that. The corresponding surface on the block side tends to erode over time, especially if there's a hole in the head gasket. Looks to me like someone welded up the eroded area and machined it flat again.
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Old 08-21-2023, 02:04 AM   #3
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Thank you for your help. I really appreciate it
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Old 08-21-2023, 11:20 AM   #4
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Leave it as-is.
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Old 08-22-2023, 09:06 AM   #5
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Here are pictures of a stock Model B short block. This engine was built after 1934 by a non-Ford casting house as evidenced by the "Diamond" casting mark on the block. Jim Brierley is correct, do not drill a hole because there was no hole there originally.
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Old 08-22-2023, 01:22 PM   #6
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Here are pictures of a stock Model B short block. This engine was built after 1934 by a non-Ford casting house as evidenced by the "Diamond" casting mark on the block. Jim Brierley is correct, do not drill a hole because there was no hole there originally.
Bob, are you sure that is an stock Model B? that rear main looks funny.

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Old 08-23-2023, 02:07 AM   #7
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Looks like someone got creative in dealing with a rear main leak on that engine by adding extra drain plumbing.
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The rear main is funny. It is a farmers idea to cope with oil leakage. This engine came out of a tractor. The extra drain failed to make a difference.
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