'40 front fenders

[GB SISSON]

I discovered a friend has a set of 40 fronts for a 'farm truck' project. I am thinking this is a better use of the 4wd chassis I have than the 'sportsman' project. Upon more inspection the frame just isn't up to that standard. It's an off brand chassis with the same track width as the 40 but not the 42-47 so I am chasing down some sheet metal. I have a '47 cab and a '47 factory truck cowl. I also have a 41 pickup hood. Looks like the hood is a good fit to my cowls and I can fabricate brackets for the '40 fenders. The fenders were described as kinda rough which could be ok with me. I will see them today. Will they work out all right with my later cowl? I don't know if they have the headlight assembly. Hope so. Then I need a serviceable grille. I would most likely build a small flatbed, perhaps a pto winch with a small wrecker boom that was made from model A frame rails. I have both. A guy has to have a project.

[51504bat]

If anyone can make everything fit it will be you. Looking forward to see how things progress.

[cas3]

go man go ! still have 40 deluxe grill sides if you need them

[Clem Clement]

Go for it. You can do it!!!

I collect homey-did prewar trains. Built during the wars and depression by a retired mechanic, Gramps, out-of-work person with a barn full of metal parts for some good reason like for his grandson, replacement for a broken train, freight car, etc. I'm amazed at the material and skills displayed. Especially the love built into the project. I hold a particularly good loco made from regular kitchen containers. Ladies who visit love guessing what the can/lid/top came from. A friend's grand dad said to Al one day, "wanna go out to the barn and build a steam engine?!!!!!" Al still runs it and his grandson is in line to get it next.

Ask what you need: I sure some Barner's may have some fun parts you can use. A Barner got me an original pair of curb scratchers for the driver's side of my '39 peekup. Momma's side has the white walls and she don't want no curb scratchers on her pretty side! (You would be surprised how many folks do not know what curb scratchers are!!)

[skidmarks]

If they are 40 passanger car fenders, all you need is a pair of pliers to make them fit the cowl and cut off the 42 to 47 front fender bracket thats spot welded to the edge of the firewall and drill a hole for the 40/41 L shaped fender bracket.

If using 40/41 running boards, drill holes to match.

Drake use to have a picture that shows thw difference in car and pickup fenders

[GB SISSON]

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Thanks so much for the support! I know that this is somewhat outside the intended scope of this forum. I don't really know what CAS's deluxe grill sides are. The two halves that form the grille? I will assume they will work and much appreciated! I will get a photo of the fenders and post it up.

[Mart]

I don't think you will want deluxe parts, the 40/41 sheetmetal uses a standard grille.

Mart.

[GB SISSON]

I did some searching when FB was down. Looks like the deluxe uses a different hood. I will go look what my hood is. It has this big waterfall looking ribbed latch assembly. Maybe a 41 pu hood? Also looks like the fenders may be different between a deluxe and a standard. I just may head over now and see what these fenders are. They are 2 1/2 miles away. Same chevy guy I bought 8 flathead blocks from 3 years ago. Perfect neighbor, huh?

[cas3]

prime example of "one mans trash is another mans treasure"

[GB SISSON]

Dangit, I didn't get to see the fenders yesterday. We are painting the front of the house while we have a long dry spell. Really gonna try to get there today. I did get 4 large sections of the body sawn off the donor vehicle. Horrible work removing a rusty 4 door station wagon body. One more thing, was the '41 pu available with the inline six? Thinking about spacing between firewall and radiator.

[Mart]

The 41 pickup was available with the six. They got a deeper drop in the front crossmember to accommodate it. Not all 41s have the deeper crossmember, it may have come part way through the model year.

[skidmarks]

6 has a different fender brace yoke which is very hard to find, different radiator mounts which there are a pair in the swap meet section now.

The car front fenders are the same for standard and delux which isnt a problem. Its the grill center and making a pickup a deluxe takes 2 hoods to do it. A deluxe car hood and the back of a pick up. And they look terrible when done
Easier to use a 39 delux grill

Also the the 6 has a different gas pedal but that can be found off trucks up to 47 with a 6 motor

[V8COOPMAN]

Originally Posted by skidmarks

If they are 40 passanger car fenders, all you need is a pair of pliers to make them fit the cowl and cut off the 42 to 47 front fender bracket thats spot welded to the edge of the firewall and drill a hole for the 40/41 L shaped fender bracket.

If using 40/41 running boards, drill holes to match.

Drake use to have a picture that shows thw difference in car and pickup fenders

Here's the Drake drawing...'40 "fronts" on the bottom half of drawing! DD

[GB SISSON]

OK guys, many thanks! I have 2 gas pedal assemblies from a six. My buddy brought the 40 front fenders by this afternoon since he was free and I had to help my wife paint the house. He also brought by a '40-'41 tailgate in case I was gonna build it a pickup. Also in the deal is a 41 pu hood. I already have one sitting on my cowl assembly, but he said his is better. Also 3 more headlight rims, two with nice chrome you can see sitting on the front bumper. All this in trade for a double sided porcelain sign in block letters that says 'service station'. It was pretty cool, but sat on a shelf covered by parts and was never seen. I'm thinking I need the 'U' shaped radiator support that connects the fenders and supports the radiator. At least that's how the jailbar trucks are put together. I can fab one up but without a grille I'd need the distance between the front fenders... Here's a few pictures. Maybe someone can guess what the chassis is. It's a 1979 and all 4 of my kids learned to drive in it. I have owned it since '84. Last year of the body style and first year they had power steering. 4wd, PDB etc. OH and still a manual choke in '79! I was inspired by the marmon herrington converted woodie wagons I have seen online. Might need to lose the 7.50 16s and go to a 6.50 16 to fit the wheel wells. ????? So far the payout is two sawzall blades...... Also to note. The entire frame will be stripped to a ladder frame, including the steering shaft. Power steering box has double u joints for EASY hookup to ford column and coulmn drop.

[GB SISSON]

Originally Posted by skidmarks

6 has a different fender brace yoke which is very hard to find, different radiator mounts which there are a pair in the swap meet section now.

The car front fenders are the same for standard and delux which isnt a problem. Its the grill center and making a pickup a deluxe takes 2 hoods to do it. A deluxe car hood and the back of a pick up. And they look terrible when done
Easier to use a 39 delux grill

Also the the 6 has a different gas pedal but that can be found off trucks up to 47 with a 6 motor

So, it sounds like I should get on that 6 cyl 41 rad mount, huh?

[skidmarks]

I was thinking you were using a stock frame. With your set up i wouldn't bother with the stock 41 radiator mounts for the 6. Better off making something to fit.

[GB SISSON]

The old wagon was a part of family history. Yesterday I drove it to where I started cutting it up in front of the shop. Everything still worked. Heater, directionals, Hi-Lo beams, all running gear, recent clutch etc. The body had rotted off from road salt, most of that from trips to British Columbia in the winter. Everyone said I should haul it off for scrap, but I just thought it needed a new body. I had taken good care of it for most of my adult life. For years I just figured I'd build some kind of jailbar contraption on it, but the track width is way off. But then '40 stuff is very collectable and expensive so it was always on the back burner. Bit by bit '40-'41 stuff showed up and the cummins powered '47 tonner is done and the woodie pretty much, except it always needs another coat of varnish. Winter is fast approaching and what is winter without a challenging project? The first picture is this wagon in it's heyday and the second one is off the net. The second one is the same chassis as mine but looks like it has big tires and maybe a lift. Both no-nos in my book. I am not trying to build a restorod, just trying to find some kind of body to cover up my old family ride, and ford stuff is what I have and have some connections to. Edit: I added a third photo of it with more of it's rusted body before removal.....

[cas3]

man, some guys got it all. cool old panel truck, old school tire machine, even a v2 rocket layin in the weeds !

[GB SISSON]

Originally Posted by cas3

man, some guys got it all. cool old panel truck, old school tire machine, even a v2 rocket layin in the weeds !

That's a Vietnam era drop tank . A6? My kid and I cleaned up a property and there were 5 of these. That night I went to friend's places and rolled one off my trailer onto each of their their property. That left me with one, and some really puzzled buddies when they woke up. I now have 2 of them and dream of a catamaran with a FHV8 with a pusher fan mounted on the platform between them. A bucket seat in front of the mill. It's great to dream.

[flatford8]

“I now have 2 of them and dream of a catamaran with a FHV8 with a pusher fan mounted on the platform between them. A bucket seat in front of the mill. It's great to dream.”

Sounds like your scheduling NEXT winters project!!!!.......Mark

[GB SISSON]

I should be done stripping the frame this afternoon. At that time I will clean up the rubble, sort out some parts and store it away for a few months. I now have the basics to work out a front clip to fit my cowl. I also found a nice set of 700x15 tractions on gray painted landcruiser wheels behind the shop. I know these (at 29" diameter as opposed to almost 32") will fit those fenders better. Thanks for the help with how these parts go together. And thanks for putting up with my offbrand donor.

[51504bat]

This could be another use for a jail bar front end?

[GB SISSON]

Is the hood in post #14 a standard/pickup type hood or a deluxe?

[Mart]

The hood with the broad waterfall trim down the centre is a 41 pickup (only). It's the one you want.

[GB SISSON]

Well it's finally Saturday and I had some time to work out some details.... detail #1 '40 ford stuff doesn't work for what I'm doing. a) the wheelbase difference from 40-42 is 112"- 114". Never mind that 40 stuff like a standard grill is 500 bucks....Since the cab and bed are the same, the 2" comes from front axle placement. Because of this the 42- fenders line up more favorably with the landcruiser axle placement. The whole bit about track width being different by about 2.5 " has now been negated by the fact that solid front axle toyota wheels have less backset, ie deeper dish and stand out further. I had a set with some old school 33 x 9.50 15 tires. Pretty much comparable to the 7.50 x 17s on a tonner. #2 Jailbar tonner stuff does work. The fender itself is the same (with the opening 2" ahead of a 40 type), but the tonner-2 ton fenders (which nobody wants) has a larger cut out from the factory. So with the track width solved by straight axle type toyota truck wheels and the axle forward thing solved by later sheet metal, I am on track to build this strong running 4wd into a regular frankentruck . It is not a build suited to fordbarn, so if I share it online it will most likely be on FTE. I doubt the hamb group would be interested either. The running gear on this toyota is sized about like f350 stuff, (the axles are actually larger dia), and best of all I have it already and a bunch more landcruiser and jailbar stuff stacked up like cordwood behind the shop. Here are a couple pics before I exit. ( I have no intentions of leaving the barn with my multiple real ford projects)

[JSeery]

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Check back in once in a while to keep us updated.

[STEVE O]

Yes please keep us updated, I personally love seeing your great work. Sorry I am not trying to offend anyone as to being all original, but wonderful to see all those pieces put back in use in a great way. Steve

[cas3]

you can run it in the antiquated section of the hamb.

[GB SISSON]

Originally Posted by cas3

you can run it in the antiquated section of the hamb.

I thought those guys got all nasty and mean if it wasn't 'pre-war'.... I kind of stopped doing the FTE when way too many builds were mustang 2 front clips and slammed to the basement and 22" wheels. There is a guy on FTE that did a '40 pu on an exploder chassis and it looked real nice, but it had cruise control and airbags and lots of other hi tech stuff that I couldn't get into. I still think FTE. And as for the early V8 world, I really will show up soon with my long anticipated 255 cu in merc build. I am nearing completion of a shop annex with all my good 59ab and 8ba blocks on stands. In the meantime I bolted up a crappy POS center grill section to tie the two fender sections together as a dummy to test fitment.

[flatford8]

I like it!!!....I’d appreciate you sending me an update once in [email protected] understand that your project isn’t inline with the scope of this forum but, ...good craftsmanship is just that....and I like the stuff you build....Mark

[Mart]

Well, I for one would really like to see this one coming together. Look at that leaf sprung ladder chassis. Very traditional. Ok it isn't Ford running gear, but I assume all the posts will be about the ford sheetmetal. You're not going to show an engine rebuild or axle refurb. As long as the thread content is Ford, in my eyes it fits.

You're reviving the Ford parts that would have otherwise just been left sitting.

If someone doesn't want to see it, ok. Just skip to the next one. I don't read every thread.

But I'm not the authority.

Mart.

[GB SISSON]

Been dragging out more parts and pieces. I had a stack of hoods that looked like an armadillo, and the bottom one was the best. I am a visual person and I have to keep a project looking like progress to keep my interest. I think at this point I also made cab blocks that were 3/4" thicker.

[cas3]

looks like an old ford to me, keep goin !

[deuce5wndw]

Keep it coming! I like it!

['36 5W]

Ditto here!!

[GB SISSON]

Ok, since it's all about that great 42-47 pickup sheet metal, here's where we are today. Sun was shining in front of the shop and I hated all the bent and twisted jailbars on the grill I had so today I pulled the grill shell and got out the torch and heated the nuts to cherry red. Pulled the bars off and ground the paint off. I have one more set of really nice bars in a 5 gallon bucket, along with many other keepers that I save, should I hit a deer in the woodie or the diesel tonner on the way home from town. In 40 years on this island I have smacked my share of them. They sit and graze beside the road for hours and just when a car shows up they decide to cross the road. Not the brightest species.

[GB SISSON]

Nice afternoon, got some time in. I never remember how much work it is to do even marginal jailbars. And these are marginal at best..... Also working out steering and radiator fitment. I need to have my head examined,

[Zeke3]

I think that is going to make a great looking truck. What are you planning behind the cab?

[GB SISSON]

Ya know it's kinda funny... I could stretch the frame and make it as a 4wd 1/2 ton pickup, but I have a lot of trucks, all single cabs ( No grandkids or dogs can fit). What if.... Henry saw the writing on the wall about the love of the ww2 set and their jeeps, 4wd and hunting, and instead of letting IH with their scouts and jeep pickups and the CJs and built an early bronco, before the early bronco. My kids (in their 30s) would love to drive their kids around the island on summer visits in the rig they learned to drive in. I'm talking two bench seats , no roof or top *(Phaeton) ?? .... Single doors behind the cowl and an almost roadster /phaeton behind that with a sloping spare tire on the tail end. I really don't need another wood bodied car here for the maintanence, and worry of bad weather. So to answer your question, an open body six passenger open car. Something that would clean the clocks of a bunch of local Hill-climb guys!!

[GB SISSON]

A couple more pics...

[GB SISSON]

This one is going slower than the last couple of projects... Winter's coming on and every year the unheated shop looks less inviting. I finally got my jailbars and other front end pieces straightened out, well they aren't actually 'straight' , but they ARE on there. Now I am in the decision process and those tough decisions often slow me down. "What if it doesn't work and I cut up a good part for nothing?". Well today I have made a decision. Look at the firewall of the ford cowl. You will see a boxed in rectangle 36" wide and 17 3/4" high. I will cut that out of the ford cowl and replace it with a 36" 17 3/4" piece from the toyota firewall. This gives me a 3 1/2" deep doghouse, ready mounts for parking brake (Toyota landcruisers use an internal expanding drum brake aft of the transfer case), the correct steering coulmn support, and the gas pedal. Instead of welding this patch in I'm thinking of welding a 3/4" angle to the perimeter and bolting it to the existing ford firewall flange. This way if I later want to mount a pickup cab on it (I have 3), I just cut out that same area and the frame mounts are the same, and bolt my flanged sub-firewall in. Another benefit is the tranny/transfer cover you see in the first photo bolts right on. Still thinking of breaking the bank and buying a pedal assembly from wilwood which solves so many clearance problems. I am about ready to remove the front clip now that I have solved the clearance and mounting issues there, and get the steering hooked up and all the mechancal stuff that is SOOO accessible with those big fenders off. I think this is going to work. I painted the front bib with some international tractor blue from ace hardware with a bit of green splashed in, some black and gray primer, flatting past and about a 1/2 cup of cornstarch to further remove the gloss. Applied with a foam brush. Trim is called 'straw' in a satin finish rattle can. Edit: I have also decided to use the toyota radiator. Trimming 1/4" off each side of the mounting flange and redrilling it mounts it in the stock support with both hose connections on the correct side and I know it is engineered correctly to cool this particular engine, and the ford radiator support does a great job of holding the front clip together.

[cas3]

lookin good GB! get some heat in that shop! should be some wood scraps around a woodworkers house

[GB SISSON]

I built it to breathe... We dry lumber in the upstairs and it's all wide open and uninsulated. We heat the house and the cabinet shop entirely with wood and there just ain't enough logs or scrap left over to heat a big drafty building.....Here in the Pacific NW, the winters are rainy, but relatively short. The crocuses bloom in February.

[Newc]

Some fellows replace the firewall cutout with a wheel barrow tub. Newc

[GB SISSON]

Originally Posted by Newc

Some fellows replace the firewall cutout with a wheel barrow tub. Newc

I always loved that wheelbarrow use!. But the old toyota firewall is just setting there outside and free for the taking and has all those captive bolt mountings for the accessories I'm gonna need to mount. Perhaps next time. I do like the way you think! Edit: Radio flyer wagon tubs make a good firewall doghouse too. If you play your cards right you could get two out of one wagon tub if you bought the 'long box' radio flyer......

[51504bat]

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GB: Found this photo in my files. Thought it might give you some inspiration even though its not a Ford.

[GB SISSON]

Originally Posted by 51504bat

GB: Found this photo in my files. Thought it might give you some inspiration even though its not a Ford.

Thanks, that is a really cool power wagon, but if there is any wood in this vehicle It would be most likely be in the form of a plywood floor, or perhaps a wood flatbed. A varnished wood body leads to worrying about it. For instance yesterday we burned about 200 board feet of alder boards stored in the same building as the woodie because we found them to be infested with powder post beetles!!

[GB SISSON]

Did some sketching this morning. I printed a photo of my project vehicle, taped it to the kitchen window and traced the outline onto a blank sheet of paper. Then I took the partial sketch and filled in the blanks. Expect some wood in the body and please don't ever compare it with Kube's work. Toyota landcruisers have always been designated 'FJ' as in FJ 40 for the swb 'jeep'type and my 4 door wagon was an FJ 55. '47 is of course the front clip. Rear fenders are International 3/4 ton PU.

[Zeke3]

That will make a cute looking island cruiser.

[GB SISSON]

Originally Posted by Zeke3

That will make a cute looking island cruiser.

And being a '79 it's the only year that had 3.73 gears instead of 4.11s. We drove this cruiser to Boston once with 3 kids in the back seat and another trip camping in the Southwest for a month towing a 1966 Aloha travel trailer which included our trip to Disneyland!

[51504bat]

Originally Posted by GB SISSON

Did some sketching this morning. I printed a photo of my project vehicle, taped it to the kitchen window and traced the outline onto a blank sheet of paper. Then I took the partial sketch and filled in the blanks. Expect some wood in the body and please don't ever compare it with Kube's work. Toyota landcruisers have always been designated 'FJ' as in FJ 40 for the swb 'jeep'type and my 4 door wagon was an FJ 55. '47 is of course the front clip. Rear fenders are International 3/4 ton PU.

An Orcas Island version of a CAD system?

[GB SISSON]

I have been enjoying some trucks on FTE and I posted a couple of pics of the for'yota. Can't remember his name on FTE, but he has a pristine MH merc woodie. He suggested a body something like this, and I was smitten! I love the '38 -'39 in this pic (note factory cowl). But how about a command car since I want a back seat for the grandkids? I found some pics of the one that was auctioned off as General Patton's command car. Spare on the side. I can't for the life of me bring a pic of that one up. I'm sure someone here can. Easy windshield, flat plate body work, AND no doors to build. Probably some hinged bars of 1 x 2 1/2 square tube, like on the ferris wheel. I have been convinced to start the thread on FTE. Work continues slowly, but this photo may speed me up. Pete, you gotta blow this pic up. It's so cool!

[KGS]

VFMA 1940_ford_durham_body5_f9d92e8d6de0f601235988b10c809bfe3a97b6f0.jpg

GB, Here's a line up that you may like.
Valley Forge Military Academy in Wayne, Pa.
from the early fifties.
The third unit in line still exists and is owned
by a local VFW post. The whereabouts of the rest
is unknown.
Ken

[51504bat]

Originally Posted by KGS

Attachment 450751

GB, Here's a line up that you may like.
Valley Forge Military Academy in Wayne, Pa.
from the early fifties.
The third unit in line still exists and is owned
by a local VFW post. The whereabouts of the rest
is unknown.
Ken

Grew up in Strafford, PA just out side of Wayne. Used to ride my bike past VFMA on the way to Wayne. The cadets used to get Saturday passes and go into town in their dress uniforms. On a side note they filmed the movie Taps there with George C. Scott and Timothy Hutton.

[GB SISSON]

Last week I printed another photo, this time of a beat up, untitled 1/2 ton panel I have.. Then I cut what I scaled as 8" out of the panel photo to match the 106" WB of the Toyota, and taped the photo back together as a shortened panel. If I went this route I would cut the roof (it's been rolled) off and use the shortened sides and belt line to build a sort of command car with two bench seats. Maybe I'd be in over my head, but the funny thing is how much it looks like the Aussie open cab pickups we've been seeing on the barn. I would fill in the spare tire well with flat steel and maybe the rear door recess. It would most surely look more like a quick government job for utility or military purposes, but would fit the bill for a 5 or six person summer hauler, sittin' way up firm and high.

[MikeinMass]

"If you build it ,They wlll come"
I like your vision !

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[GB SISSON]

And I got my 214.00 Champion rad installed and temporarily plumbed. The Radiator support has a flange to bolt the rad to and in stock form it tilts the rad back about an inch at the top. My engine sits almost level and I needed some more clearance so I cut the vertical flanges away from the support, leaving 1/2" at the bottom still attached. I then bent the flanges forward so the radiator would sit plumb, or parallel to the support and rewelded them. This necessitated moving the spreader bar ahead 1/2" . I was very careful with extra support at that point because of the heavy wide fenders hung on the support. I know I will have to alter the upper radiator shroud/hood latch holder. And just so you know, this rad support came to me in the stash of 5 jailbar trucks with about 7" missing from the bottom of the 'U'. I filled it in with some scrap channel and angle. All in all I bet the support weighs about 5 lbs more than stock.

['36 5W]

I'm diggin' it; should be a fun low speed cruiser for your neck of
the woods!
(Keep forgetting to ask, is the old o.e.m. green combo. on your projects Dartmouth Green and Tacoma Cream?)

[GB SISSON]

I steer away from gloss paint so the green is pretty much a mixture of flat black rustoleum, flat white rustoleum (flat gray) and whatever gloss green at ace or rustoleum, like hunter green. I have also used rustoleum spray such as 'satin italian olive', 'satin camp green'... Stuff like that. The 'tacoma cream' is most often a 'satin straw' or other satin color I could look for tomorrow in the shop. I like the satin colors because I'm not much of a body man, and besides, log chain or big branch swipes the side, bust out the spray can. Good to go.

[GB SISSON]

It's been really cold for our area and snow the last 3 days. Sometimes I just have to brave the cold so I can do some wrenching. Weekends don't come around every day. Did a front brake job with new rotors. calipers, and pads today along with the usual wheel bearing service, seals etc. Also been working on floors, firewall etc. It's a funny place I'm in. The landcruiser site doesn't know what to make of me because I cut up one of their 'beloved' and the ford guys don't know what to make of me because of the Japanese chassis/running gear. Sometimes I feel like a man without a country. For me the bottom line is having some fun building something with what I have here on the property. The toyota axle shafts are actually larger in diameter than those on my '92 F350 4wd. I miss looking at my ford sheet metal but at my age kneeling on the concrete, the brakes/axle work is so much easier without all that tin in the way.

[GB SISSON]

Originally Posted by GB SISSON

I have been enjoying some trucks on FTE and I posted a couple of pics of the for'yota. Can't remember his name on FTE, but he has a pristine MH merc woodie. He suggested a body something like this, and I was smitten! I love the '38 -'39 in this pic (note factory cowl). But how about a command car since I want a back seat for the grandkids? I found some pics of the one that was auctioned off as General Patton's command car. Spare on the side. I can't for the life of me bring a pic of that one up. I'm sure someone here can. Easy windshield, flat plate body work, AND no doors to build. Probably some hinged bars of 1 x 2 1/2 square tube, like on the ferris wheel. I have been convinced to start the thread on FTE. Work continues slowly, but this photo may speed me up. Pete, you gotta blow this pic up. It's so cool!

The deeper I get, the more that photo of the '38 military rig haunts me. I have now completed the brakes except for bleeding (tomorrow). I have built 'cab' floor framing from square tubing, mostly 1 1/2" and 2". Then a 3/4 " plywood cab floor bolted down, but in two easily removed sections. Mounts went in this afternoon for some '67 landcruiser fj 40 seats I had. Plain, squarish and pretty muck like willys jeep issue. I have the bed that came on the pickup that became the woodie mounted on a trailer and has been covered by a canopy. Box is nice, well for this thing it is. I have a nice '40 tailgate but it's too narrow, so I have to find a 42-47 type. The rear fenders should be cut bigger for these 33" diameter tires. All my 1/2 ton pickup fenders are pretty shot so I won't feel bad. I know I wanted something with a back seat for the grandkids, but heck the woodie has a back seat. This box is way easierf. And no doors to mess with. So I guess I'm building something pretty close to the pic of that 38. We'll see what happens. I think you can see the bed behind the vehicle. Not a great photo, sorry.

[flatford8]

Good to see your still picking away at it!!......you’ll have it ready for Mud Season!!!....Mark

[GB SISSON]

I have been working on changing over to this 1/2 ton pickup box. My wife thinks the grandkids will whack their heads on the bomb hoist. I say they gotta learn to duck. Made this sketch up this morning at about 4:30. I couldn't sleep.

[Mart]

When they hit their heads, you can say "That's why they call it a boom".

[GB SISSON]

Jibe Ho! Duck for that boom. After work my kid pulled the 1/2 ton bed off that tonner trailer with the forklift. Then he hit the road (being Friday).... So I pulled the fenders without breaking a bolt on either side. Map gas and PB blaster (love the smell). I was really surprised by the great condition of the metal. It was one of five jailbar trucks I hauled off a place six years ago on the dry Eastern side of the state. This was the box off the pickup I cut up to build my woodie. The gift that keeps on giving.

[GB SISSON]

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My seven year old granddaughter and me returning home from setting the crab pots.

[Als48]

That's a very cool rear shot with your Grandaughter.