Les Andrews Book

[Afordman31]

Replaced the front spring on my Speedster using Les Andrews Book. Front end didn't have to be removed from car and didn't need a spring spreader to install. Recommend his books to all.

[katy]

Is that the book between the floor jack and the axle?

[henry's 31]

I agree, with his books we can do almost anything on our beloved A's. He is helping us keep our cars on the road. Highly recommended!

[C26Pinelake]

Good to see positive comments about the book. Too often we see people scouring the books to find faults. The man did an anazing job. He is a Model A icon. Wayne

[Rex_A_Lott]

Originally Posted by katy

Is that the book between the floor jack and the axle?

That's some funny stuff

[Tom Wesenberg]

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Originally Posted by katy

Is that the book between the floor jack and the axle?

Thanks for the laugh. That was a good one.

I also think Les did a good job on the book.

[Mitch//pa]

I utilize the red book all the time for reference....

[jax55]

X2 I use it quite often just to be sure I am on the right track.

[Synchro909]

I also often refer to his book but always think about the things he says before proceeding. Lots of errors and omissions.

[Dick Steinkamp]

Originally Posted by Synchro909

Lots of errors and omissions.

I like the book also, but I would think by now most of the errors would have been corrected. They have not. This is probably not the thread for it, but it would be great if we could gather all the errors so we could all annotate our books and make them more correct.

[briphaeton]

I think Les gave our hobby a great tool for working on our cars. A lot of auto work requires common sense. You don't need a torque wrench for 20 lbs. torque. (means not to use excessive force) People should not buy something they have no idea how to work on.

[Synchro909]

Originally Posted by briphaeton

I think Les gave our hobby a great tool for working on our cars. A lot of auto work requires common sense. You don't need a torque wrench for 20 lbs. torque. (means not to use excessive force) People should not buy something they have no idea how to work on.

Agreed.

I like the book also, but I would think by now most of the errors would have been corrected. They have not. This is probably not the thread for it, but it would be great if we could gather all the errors so we could all annotate our books and make them more correct.

There was a thread here a little while ago where members were asked to submit any errors they found in the books.
Many of the omissions I mentioned relate to the fact that RHD cars are given NO consideration

[Mike V. Florida]

Originally Posted by Dick Steinkamp

I like the book also, but I would think by now most of the errors would have been corrected. They have not. This is probably not the thread for it, but it would be great if we could gather all the errors so we could all annotate our books and make them more correct.

That was tried here and it created quite a stir. One would have thought we were tearing apart the bible apart. Some were contacted by the admin of the site and told to stop creating drama. So sorry one will just have to learn on their own what the problems are.

[C26Pinelake]

Get those red Sullivan tubular shocks painted black. Wayne

[Cornishman]

Originally Posted by briphaeton

I think Les gave our hobby a great tool for working on our cars. A lot of auto work requires common sense. You don't need a torque wrench for 20 lbs. torque. (means not to use excessive force) People should not buy something they have no idea how to work on.

If 20 pounds torque is stated in an authoritive manual only a fool would disregard it. If the author meant, 'tighten it firmly, do not use excess force', he would have written that.

[Mike V. Florida]

Originally Posted by Cornishman

If 20 pounds torque is stated in an manual only a fool would disregard it. If the author meant, 'tighten it firmly, do not use excess force', he would have written that.

Since Ford had no torque values when building the Model A how is this (20 lbs) value from an authoritative source.

What do the oil pan bolts do? They hold up a pan of oil and a pump so why 20 ft lbs for torque? Brattons calls out 5 ft lbs.


Hopefully you are starting to see the pattern. Just about every torque value given is the max torque as published for a specific size bolt not the use of that bolt.

[COOTER]

Originally Posted by briphaeton

...People should not buy something they have no idea how to work on.

How else is one to learn?

[Dick Steinkamp]

Originally Posted by tbirdtbird

'People should not buy something they have no idea how to work on.'

There are many ways that folks enjoy the old car hobby.

For me, the LEARNING is a big part of the enjoyment. I seek out cars I don't have a lot of experience with to accomplish this. Forums like this one make the learning and network development far easier than it was 20 years ago. Thanks to all here for helping me learn the idiosyncrasies and little known details of these cars. I'm having fun!

There is also a group of Model A lovers who don't have an interest in the "wrenching" part of ownership and don't intend to work on the car. They may enjoy the history, polishing, driving, club comradeship, and other aspects of the hobby. They fully intend to have someone else perform the part of ownership that doesn't turn their crank. That's OK too. We don't all have to have fun with the cars in exactly the same way.

[kirkf]

Originally Posted by briphaeton

People should not buy something they have no idea how to work on.

I translate that as:

If you are hipster who has never seen a wrench, rebuilding antique automobiles is probably not your best choice of hobbies.



Kirk

[Mitch//pa]

Dick Steinkamp::
T-bird was quoting someone else