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Jerryrod35 · 05-06-2013, 10:11 PM

Greetings! Need help with any information someone can give me on a transmission from an old racer my grandfather( whom has passed) salvaged from an incomplete project from the 30's. I know its a Model A transmission. What I am not sure of is the front Bellhousing. downsized_0421131029.jpg

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Roadster62 · 05-06-2013, 10:58 PM

Very nice unit, looks like it is set up as an in-out box. The clutch is the early "AR" multi disk type that most race cars used back in the day since they were a small diameter and light once the flywheel was turned down to the diameter of the disk housing. If you plan on parting with the unit I'd be interested. FOX is a maker i've never heard of, the Ambler Brothers were in Philadelphia, maybe it was made by them and marketed under the FOX name. Bob

BILL WILLIAMSON · 05-07-2013, 03:24 AM

Roadster, Saw a pic of a Speedco unit in a '50's Indy car that looked very similar, only, was open drive. Bill W.

Jim Brierley · 05-07-2013, 09:52 AM

Those were common in race cars, made for both the A trans and the V8. As Roadster62 stated, the flywheels were cut down for lightness, and leg room was needed in the very narrow cars, also the aluminum housing was light.

Jerryrod35 · 05-07-2013, 08:21 PM

Thank you gentlemen for the help. I am not sure if this unit will be up for sale or not. Technically it still belongs to my grandmother but I am pretty sure she doesn't plan on using it to grind coffee beans. But then again I may be wrong. Can any one place an estimated value on this?

Roadster62 · 05-07-2013, 08:35 PM

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This is what a turned down "AR" flywheel looks like. Note that they took the time to cut degree marks in it to help time the engine. Bob

Rowdy · 05-07-2013, 08:35 PM

About 8 years ago I had an early Frontanic flywheel. It looked like a cut down early 28 flywheel completely missing the ring gear flange and it had timing marks stamped on it. It looked factory made that way, not a modified Ford Flywheel. I traded it for some needed parts. Looks like this transmission would have been used for a simular if not exact setup. Rod

05-06-2013, 10:11 PM	#1
Jerryrod35 Junior Member Join Date: May 2013 Posts: 2	Old Racer Transmission Greetings! Need help with any information someone can give me on a transmission from an old racer my grandfather( whom has passed) salvaged from an incomplete project from the 30's. I know its a Model A transmission. What I am not sure of is the front Bellhousing. downsized_0421131029.jpg downsized_0421131023.jpg downsized_0421131021.jpg downsized_0421131027.jpg downsized_0421131013.jpg downsized_0421131008.jpg

05-06-2013, 10:58 PM	#2
Roadster62 Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Ridgefield, Ct Posts: 3,441	Re: Old Racer Transmission Very nice unit, looks like it is set up as an in-out box. The clutch is the early "AR" multi disk type that most race cars used back in the day since they were a small diameter and light once the flywheel was turned down to the diameter of the disk housing. If you plan on parting with the unit I'd be interested. FOX is a maker i've never heard of, the Ambler Brothers were in Philadelphia, maybe it was made by them and marketed under the FOX name. Bob __________________ They don't have to run to be enjoyed. I'm here to enjoy the hobby, and enjoy the cars no matter what they look like. Most of the worlds problems are electrical.

05-07-2013, 03:24 AM	#3
BILL WILLIAMSON Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: FRESNO, CA Posts: 12,560	Re: Old Racer Transmission Roadster, Saw a pic of a Speedco unit in a '50's Indy car that looked very similar, only, was open drive. Bill W. __________________ "THE ASSISTANT GURU OF STUFF"

05-07-2013, 09:52 AM	#4
Jim Brierley Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Temecula, CA Posts: 4,092	Re: Old Racer Transmission Those were common in race cars, made for both the A trans and the V8. As Roadster62 stated, the flywheels were cut down for lightness, and leg room was needed in the very narrow cars, also the aluminum housing was light.

05-07-2013, 08:21 PM	#5
Jerryrod35 Junior Member Join Date: May 2013 Posts: 2	Re: Old Racer Transmission Thank you gentlemen for the help. I am not sure if this unit will be up for sale or not. Technically it still belongs to my grandmother but I am pretty sure she doesn't plan on using it to grind coffee beans. But then again I may be wrong. Can any one place an estimated value on this?

05-07-2013, 08:35 PM	#7
Rowdy BANNED Join Date: May 2010 Location: Gothenburg Nebraska Just off I-80 Posts: 4,893	Re: Old Racer Transmission About 8 years ago I had an early Frontanic flywheel. It looked like a cut down early 28 flywheel completely missing the ring gear flange and it had timing marks stamped on it. It looked factory made that way, not a modified Ford Flywheel. I traded it for some needed parts. Looks like this transmission would have been used for a simular if not exact setup. Rod __________________ Do the RIGHT thing - Support the H.A.M.B. Alliance!!!!