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A31Woody · 01-25-2017, 09:38 PM

My car developed a squeak that I originally thought was the water pump, then maybe alternator... tonight I had the floorboards off and noticed it only made the squeak when I wasn't depressing the clutch pedal. See the video link below:

https://youtu.be/Bx5XwItJuD4

I gave the throwout 3 or 4 pumps of grease and it didn't change anything.

As an extra check, I took the belt off and the noise is still there. I also checked the front pulley and it does not appear to be rubbing.

Thoughts on next steps?

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A31Woody · 01-25-2017, 09:44 PM

The throwout bearing does have some dried out grease on it.

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OL JENNY · 01-25-2017, 10:36 PM

I had the same situation and my squeak also stopped when the clutch was depressed. My problem was eventually traced to my original front motor mount. Lubricated the mount to frame surface and it went away. It was confusing because you could make it stop with pressure on many different surfaces. Darn those squeaks!

A31Woody · 01-25-2017, 11:31 PM

Interesting. I'll check that out in the morning. Thanks.

RonC · 01-26-2017, 06:45 AM

The squeak could be the bearing riding on the pressure plate fingers when in neutral. It should not. Is there 1" of free pedal adjustment and is the spring pulling it back? The grease only greases the throw out bearing collar that rides on the transmission nose cone. Do not over grease.

Jerry Kzoo · 01-26-2017, 07:33 AM

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I can't tell from the picture, but it looks like the one finger in the light is very close to the throwout bearing. Try to turn over the motor by hand and check each finger that they are not touching the bearing and that they are very close to the same distance away.

With the motor running and the clutch released in neutral the throwout bearing should not be spinning.

Jerry

Mitch//pa · 01-26-2017, 07:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Jerry Kzoo

I can't tell from the picture, but it looks like the one finger in the light is very close to the throwout bearing. Try to turn over the motor by hand and check each finger that they are not touching the bearing and that they are very close to the same distance away.

With the motor running and the clutch released in neutral the throwout bearing should not be spinning.

Jerry

I was thinking the same thing as Jerry

Jim/GA · 01-26-2017, 12:59 PM

1 inch of pedal free play or free travel is the first place to start. You must have this (or a little more, if you like, but not less). The adjustment to get this is the threaded bit that connects to the clutch pedal under the car. You can find it.

I have a similar noise on one of my cars that I traced to the hand throttle assembly down on the column. If I move the throttle one click off of full up, the noise stops. Crazy! I have tried many things, unsuccessfully, to stop that noise.

My point is, it may not be your throw out bearing.

Jacksonlll · 01-26-2017, 01:14 PM

My guess is that it is exciting something else in the area and that is what is making the noise. It's a very light noise. Good luck.

FRANK PKNY · 01-26-2017, 01:35 PM

I would get a high pitched squeak whenever my wife rode with me, the solution was to leave her home! LOL

Jim/GA · 01-26-2017, 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by FRANK PKNY

I would get a high pitched squeak whenever my wife rode with me, the solution was to leave her home! LOL

For me, is was an annoying whine. Same solution.

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A31Woody · 01-26-2017, 07:37 PM

So... I got home from work and backed the model a out of the garage… And the squeak went away… this car is keeping me on my toes… LOL.

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jm29henry · 01-26-2017, 08:00 PM

Want some cheese or crackers to go with that wine ? Lol

A31Woody · 01-26-2017, 09:22 PM

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Originally Posted by jm29henry

Want some cheese or crackers to go with that wine ? Lol

Sure!

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Tom Wesenberg · 01-26-2017, 09:30 PM

I wonder if it was a dry plunger for the cam?

01-25-2017, 09:38 PM	#1
A31Woody Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Sunnyvale, CA Posts: 136	Squeak when clutch NOT depressed My car developed a squeak that I originally thought was the water pump, then maybe alternator... tonight I had the floorboards off and noticed it only made the squeak when I wasn't depressing the clutch pedal. See the video link below: https://youtu.be/Bx5XwItJuD4 I gave the throwout 3 or 4 pumps of grease and it didn't change anything. As an extra check, I took the belt off and the noise is still there. I also checked the front pulley and it does not appear to be rubbing. Thoughts on next steps? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________ Our 1931 Station Wagon: Originally restored in 1962, redone in the early 1980's, brought back to life in 1997 and refreshed in 2016/2017. Check out the progress at a31woody.com

01-25-2017, 09:44 PM	#2
A31Woody Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Sunnyvale, CA Posts: 136	Re: Squeak when clutch NOT depressed The throwout bearing does have some dried out grease on it. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________ Our 1931 Station Wagon: Originally restored in 1962, redone in the early 1980's, brought back to life in 1997 and refreshed in 2016/2017. Check out the progress at a31woody.com

01-25-2017, 10:36 PM	#3
OL JENNY Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Muscatine, IA Posts: 223	Re: Squeak when clutch NOT depressed I had the same situation and my squeak also stopped when the clutch was depressed. My problem was eventually traced to my original front motor mount. Lubricated the mount to frame surface and it went away. It was confusing because you could make it stop with pressure on many different surfaces. Darn those squeaks!

01-25-2017, 11:31 PM	#4
A31Woody Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Sunnyvale, CA Posts: 136	Re: Squeak when clutch NOT depressed Interesting. I'll check that out in the morning. Thanks. __________________ Our 1931 Station Wagon: Originally restored in 1962, redone in the early 1980's, brought back to life in 1997 and refreshed in 2016/2017. Check out the progress at a31woody.com

01-26-2017, 06:45 AM	#5
RonC Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Rhode Island Posts: 1,868	Re: Squeak when clutch NOT depressed The squeak could be the bearing riding on the pressure plate fingers when in neutral. It should not. Is there 1" of free pedal adjustment and is the spring pulling it back? The grease only greases the throw out bearing collar that rides on the transmission nose cone. Do not over grease.

01-26-2017, 07:33 AM	#6
Jerry Kzoo Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Kalamazoo, MI Posts: 173	Re: Squeak when clutch NOT depressed Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements) I can't tell from the picture, but it looks like the one finger in the light is very close to the throwout bearing. Try to turn over the motor by hand and check each finger that they are not touching the bearing and that they are very close to the same distance away. With the motor running and the clutch released in neutral the throwout bearing should not be spinning. Jerry

01-26-2017, 12:59 PM	#8
Jim/GA Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Young Harris, GA Posts: 1,821	Re: Squeak when clutch NOT depressed 1 inch of pedal free play or free travel is the first place to start. You must have this (or a little more, if you like, but not less). The adjustment to get this is the threaded bit that connects to the clutch pedal under the car. You can find it. I have a similar noise on one of my cars that I traced to the hand throttle assembly down on the column. If I move the throttle one click off of full up, the noise stops. Crazy! I have tried many things, unsuccessfully, to stop that noise. My point is, it may not be your throw out bearing. __________________ Jim Cannon Former MAFCA Technical Director "Have a Model A day!"

01-26-2017, 01:14 PM	#9
Jacksonlll Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Michigan-- Member of Oakleaf of MARC Posts: 1,686	Re: Squeak when clutch NOT depressed My guess is that it is exciting something else in the area and that is what is making the noise. It's a very light noise. Good luck.

01-26-2017, 01:35 PM	#10
FRANK PKNY Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: POUGHKEEPSIE NY 12601 Posts: 1,016	Re: Squeak when clutch NOT depressed I would get a high pitched squeak whenever my wife rode with me, the solution was to leave her home! LOL __________________ [email protected]

01-26-2017, 07:37 PM	#12
A31Woody Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Sunnyvale, CA Posts: 136	Re: Squeak when clutch NOT depressed So... I got home from work and backed the model a out of the garage… And the squeak went away… this car is keeping me on my toes… LOL. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________ Our 1931 Station Wagon: Originally restored in 1962, redone in the early 1980's, brought back to life in 1997 and refreshed in 2016/2017. Check out the progress at a31woody.com

01-26-2017, 08:00 PM	#13
jm29henry Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: michigan Posts: 1,126	Re: Squeak when clutch NOT depressed Want some cheese or crackers to go with that wine ? Lol

01-26-2017, 09:30 PM	#15
Tom Wesenberg Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Mpls, MN Posts: 27,582	Re: Squeak when clutch NOT depressed I wonder if it was a dry plunger for the cam?