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Old 05-18-2018, 07:50 AM   #1
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Vertex magneto. NGK B5-ES with Flatattack heads.
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Gap should be .018 ...
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Old 05-19-2018, 12:05 AM   #4
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When I was running a Vertex mag I ran Lodge R49's.
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Old 05-19-2018, 04:50 AM   #5
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We used Champion L 63R with .020 gap.
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We used Champion L 63R with .020 gap.


When was the last rime you bought them because the place I could find them was England


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It kind of depends on whose heads and what reach spark plug you need? I run a vertex mag with Navarro heads - I prefer to run the NGK B6L plug. I pretty much run NGK plugs in everything I build.
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When I was running a Vertex mag I ran Lodge R49's.

We won with them.


The Lodge R49 or the Champion L62R would be great because of them being a retracted electrode but I only found them in England
I wish I could find them here in the states
My heads are so worked I need a retracted plug for clearance


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Just put two gaskets on a B6L - should do the trick!
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Two gaskets will alter the heat range....
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Italian cars such as Alfa and Fiat use Lodge plugs. You may be able to source Lodge plugs from one of these retailers.
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Two gaskets will alter the heat range....


How is that possible? Heat range is determined by the length of the porcelain and the electrode projection from the end of the plug body. Raising the plug by adding additional washers is no different than how some Flathead heads are machined to place the plug deeper into the chamber or farther from the chamber if what you wrote is accurate any deviation from a given dimension of the plug in the chamber will then alter the heat range.
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How is that possible? Heat range is determined by the length of the porcelain and the electrode projection from the end of the plug body. Raising the plug by adding additional washers is no different than how some Flathead heads are machined to place the plug deeper into the chamber or farther from the chamber if what you wrote is accurate any deviation from a given dimension of the plug in the chamber will then alter the heat range.
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Multiple gaskets WILL actually alter the heat range. The majority of the heat in a plug is dissipated throughout the seat. The rest through the threads.
Lengthening the path to the seat with more washers or thicker washers will impede heat transfer. It also reduces the amount of thread in contact with the head, further impeding heat transfer.
Race engines usually use solid copper washers instead of the rolled ones because they transfer heat better.
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if Ronnie roadster says its so you better believe it
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Like to be a fly on the bar at that discussion.
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When I use additional washers under my plugs I use solid copper as Pete explained above that's the reason I have not experienced any change in heat range by using washers good old copper is great transfer of heat. I learned something by accident thanks for the info Pete
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I'll supply the beer - as long as I get to see BOTH of my friends at the same time! Good info on multiple gaskets - though I think the original poster is going to have to decide what he wants to do. He can go to a shorter reach plug than the heads were originally designed to use (but the chambers have been modified - so the thread length is now less) . . . and if he can find the correct plug and heat range, that should work. If not, he may want to use two copper gaskets to raise the plug threads out of the chamber. Me, I would probably use two copper gaskets instead of the rolled ones - and run B6L plugs.

PS: Pete, we may need to drink "Toottie Fruities" like at Bonneville.
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To bolster the points. A friend that holds a flathead record at Bonneville told me that he was going to switch from solid copper head gaskets to composite because the copper gaskets transfer too much heat from the combustion area. Heat is power in the right place.
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