Big Mistake

[George Miller]

Just came in from the garage. 60 degrees no heat. It never goes below 50. But the Summer time is another story. It is well insulated 6" walls no windows.

[Mitch//pa]

very nice garage Chris
you will getter done and next winter the wife will know where to find you..
Happy Wife Happy life
ceiling fans are the key to keeping the ground warm with the heater

[Bored&Stroked]

Nice looking building and congrats on doing it yourself! Spring will be here soon - so hang in there.

I have a smaller/insulated work area that is about 15 x 35 (has a natural gas heater and a small air conditioner) - that is attached (common wall) to a much larger 35 x 50 area. Also, the long side of it has 2 36" windows that face the south, so it gets light and sun in the winter (which really helps heat it as well). The main shop area is much larger and is not heated - it gets a bit cold to work in there when it is below freezing, but one can walk through the big sliding door to warm up in the heated section.

Not trying to heat/cool the whole building is probably a good thing - at least I have a work area where I keep my machine tools, workbenches, metal working equipment, etc (that is sectioned off).. I think having at least one area of the shop that is insulated and has good natural lighting is a smart idea - will always try for this if I ever build a workshop in the future.

[Bill's Auto Works]

Nice garage Chris, One suggestion would be to call a spray insulating company. Cover your car or move it out for a few hours & it will be insulated. As for heat, I use radiant heat tubes in my building, you can use propane or nat gas to power them.

[Royce P]

Go to the big home store and buy rolls of paper backed R18 and fit them between the studs. You need a hammer stapler to tie them to the studs. I insulated the walls of my 30 X 60 X 10 foot ceiling garage in about a week of evenings and a couple weekends, but you can spread it out over a month or a year if your budget demands you go slower.

[CWilson]

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Originally Posted by Bill's Auto Works

Nice garage Chris, One suggestion would be to call a spray insulating company. Cover your car or move it out for a few hours & it will be insulated. As for heat, I use radiant heat tubes in my building, you can use propane or nat gas to power them.

When I was researching what type of heating to use I heard that the radiant tubes will keep your floors very cold. Do you find that to be true? I had decided to go with a 45k btu forced air furnace. Like Mitch said, I was going to add 2 ceiling fans to force the air down. My propane tank sits behind the garage so tying in to that will be easy.

Chris

[Mitch//pa]

if you have a source for waste oil you cant beat a waste oil heater.. we have one in the shop it works flawlessly

[Patrick L.]

Nice looking garage. Don't worry, your young and it'll come. It'll be worth it.

[Joe K]

Originally Posted by Mitch//pa

if you have a source for waste oil you cant beat a waste oil heater.. we have one in the shop it works flawlessly

Heh. In my post above I mentioned a hot air furnace burning No. 2 oil.

I already own the air jet conversion to change it to burn waste oil. See http://www.ckburners.com/kits.html

EPA on my side on that one. (This is rare) They consider the environmental risk of moving waste oil to be greater than the environmental damage caused by burning the waste oil for heat.

Joe K

[Logan]

If all of yall would wise up and move to texas you could work on your car year round insulated or not. There might be a week or two every now and then thats to cold, but for the most part we can work on and drive out cars year round

[Bill's Auto Works]

Originally Posted by CWilson

When I was researching what type of heating to use I heard that the radiant tubes will keep your floors very cold. Do you find that to be true? I had decided to go with a 45k btu forced air furnace. Like Mitch said, I was going to add 2 ceiling fans to force the air down. My propane tank sits behind the garage so tying in to that will be easy.

Chris

Chris,
Radiant heat tubes heat all surfaces, not the air hence the reason they are so efficient. The floor gets warm along with the vehicle, etc. If you have already picked your heating type, the ceiling fans would be a good idea, just keep them on the lowest setting so you do not feel a draft. If you have access to any wood, a small wood burner in addition to your heater would also save some money.

[Bill's Auto Works]

Originally Posted by Logan

If all of yall would wise up and move to texas you could work on your car year round insulated or not. There might be a week or two every now and then thats to cold, but for the most part we can work on and drive out cars year round

Watch out, with an invitation like that your driveway & shop could get very full!!

[pooch]

Originally Posted by Y-Blockhead

Whoa!! Wait a minute. I can see the Pacific Ocean with a small island out there!!

Snow is ~3 hours inland (in a modern car).

Yeh, the ski resorts are about 4 hours away.

[Bored&Stroked]

Originally Posted by Logan

If all of yall would wise up and move to texas you could work on your car year round insulated or not. There might be a week or two every now and then thats to cold, but for the most part we can work on and drive out cars year round

Too many damn snakes and other critters that bite! Some of them on two legs . . .

[31 Model A]

Originally Posted by Logan

If all of yall would wise up and move to texas you could work on your car year round insulated or not. There might be a week or two every now and then thats to cold, but for the most part we can work on and drive out cars year round

One strange thing of oddity...."None of my Ex's are from Texas!!!!" I did get married once in San Antonio but she wasn't from Texas, she was from Pittsburg!!!!

I did have concrete plans I thought to move and retire in San Angelo a few years back....didn't happen. Probably good, I'd probably be supporting four of five senorita's and their families by now.

[H. L. Chauvin]

Hi Chris,

FWIW, just one suggestion:

Bill's response #24 using spray foam is a meaningful viable option to consider for finishing your basement & insulating your garage.

Like with anything else, to avoid getting hoodwinked, verifying the integrity of the insulation installer is "most" important.

Always ask for prices & for several references from subcontractors .... their former clients will be like Forum Members ...... ask for advice from his clients & you will get an ear full .... if your hear discouraging (4) letter words from more than (2) of his clients .... call another insulating subcontractor.

Things to consider:

a. It can be done in a day without your time in participating; &,

b. You do not need to get all itchy with fiberglass strands; &,

c. You continue to work on your basement; &,

d. If your wife agrees, you will never hear for the rest of your life about the year that you did not finish the basement like she wanted.

If you need more marriage counseling, from this Forum, there are quite a few seniors here who know a little more about wives than Model A's.

Just trying to help.

[Bill's Auto Works]

One thing to add to the good advise of H.L.
Spray foam insulation is way more efficient, as it completely eliminates drafts. Itchy fiberglass rolls of insulation are cheaper initially but cost more in the long run.
Bill

[H. L. Chauvin]

Hi Chris,

Again, FWIW: Just one (1) more comment:

In your reply #20 ...... in your mentioning "still in your 30's", we all kid a lot; but, you can never imagine the profound respect we all have for younger gentlemen like yourself for taking the time to address any Model A Forum.

[C26Pinelake]

Originally Posted by H. L. Chauvin

Hi Chris,

FWIW, just one suggestion:

Bill's response #24 using spray foam is a meaningful viable option to consider for finishing your basement & insulating your garage.

Like with anything else, to avoid getting hoodwinked, verifying the integrity of the insulation installer is "most" important.

Always ask for prices & for several references from subcontractors .... their former clients will be like Forum Members ...... ask for advice from his clients & you will get an ear full .... if your hear discouraging (4) letter words from more than (2) of his clients .... call another insulating subcontractor.



Things to consider:

a. It can be done in a day without your time in participating; &,

b. You do not need to get all itchy with fiberglass strands; &,

c. You continue to work on your basement; &,

d. If your wife agrees, you will never hear for the rest of your life about the year that you did not finish the basement like she wanted.

If you need more marriage counseling, from this Forum, there are quite a few seniors here who know a little more about wives than Model A's.

Just trying to help.

Very sound advice from one of the most intelligent individuals on the site. Wayne

[ian Simpson]

Before you put a heater in your garage or shop, check the local regulations, Many jurisdictions do not allow open flame heaters in an environment rich in gas vapour. If you have a Model A on the premises, you have a gas rich environment.

I have a natural gas heater with a totally enclosed flame and discrete intake and exhaust ducting. It was inspected and passed by the local authority.

Ian