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sgtlethargic · 10-12-2010, 10:03 PM

'37 rear end: What are the typical gear ratios? What other year housings(?) will fit (one side is bent)?

Front and rear end: What hydraulic brakes will swap?

Thanks,
Kurt

37 Coupe · 10-13-2010, 07:10 AM

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Originally Posted by sgtlethargic

'37 rear end: What are the typical gear ratios? What other year housings(?) will fit (one side is bent)?

Front and rear end: What hydraulic brakes will swap?

Thanks,
Kurt

The gear ratios that were typical for 1937 Ford was 3:78 or 4:11 for the 85 hp and 4:44 if it was originally a 60 hp. Some 85 hp came with the 3:54. The axle housings are the same or interchangeable 1937-1940 I do not know if includes 1941. I used 1939-1940 brakes on my 37 hydraulic conversion,some like the 46-48 better or even Lincoln brakes.

jimTN · 10-13-2010, 07:27 AM

Brakes: use 46-8 (slightly better design, floating shoes at bottom), use 39 pedals & master cyl mount.

oldandtired · 10-13-2010, 07:52 AM

If you would post which side of the rear is damaged, I have some extra axle housings just sitting round in one of the storage buildings and might have the side you need.
O&T

sgtlethargic · 10-13-2010, 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by oldandtired

If you would post which side of the rear is damaged, I have some extra axle housings just sitting round in one of the storage buildings and might have the side you need.
O&T

Hmmm, I don't know which side for sure and I took it apart. I wanna say it was the driver's side, but I may have had the rear end upside-down. How can one tell?

Should I chuck the axle assembly in a lathe to check if it's bent?

Thanks,
Kurt

Charlie Stephens · 10-13-2010, 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by jimTN

Brakes: use 46-8 (slightly better design, floating shoes at bottom), use 39 pedals & master cyl mount.

As an option to the '39 pedals consider calling Richard Lacy at [email protected], (626) 338-2282 for the adapter he makes to use the original '37 pedals and a hydraulic master cylinder.

Charlie Stephens

sgtlethargic · 10-14-2010, 05:13 PM

It's looking like the parts are '35-6 because the rear axle housings have the radius rod mounting flanges welded on.

Richard (EV8G) · 10-14-2010, 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Charlie Stephens

As an option to the '39 pedals consider calling Richard Lacy at [email protected], (626) 338-2282 for the adapter he makes to use the original '37 pedals and a hydraulic master cylinder.

Charlie Stephens

Once again, THANK YOU Charlie!!!

AND... 37-40 and 41 COMMERCIAL (PU/Panel on 112" WB) are the
same housings. Ford changed the passenger car chassis in 41 but
left the Commercial chassis alone until 42... but sounds like he has
35-36 rear???

sgtlethargic · 10-14-2010, 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Richard (EV8G)

Once again, THANK YOU Charlie!!!

AND... 37-40 and 41 COMMERCIAL (PU/Panel on 112" WB) are the
same housings. Ford changed the passenger car chassis in 41 but
left the Commercial chassis alone until 42... but sounds like he has
35-36 rear???

Yep, but I don't have a whole car- just working with parts here, and it's not gonna be a restoration.

Richard (EV8G) · 10-14-2010, 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by sgtlethargic

Yep, but I don't have a whole car- just working with parts here, and it's not gonna be a restoration.

OK, so what is it going to be???

sgtlethargic · 10-14-2010, 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Richard (EV8G)

OK, so what is it going to be???

I don't think this group or the H.A.M.B. would be very accepting of what I have in mind.

JM 35 Sedan · 10-14-2010, 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by sgtlethargic

It's looking like the parts are '35-6 because the rear axle housings have the radius rod mounting flanges welded on.

The '37-40 rear axle housings have the spring hangers welded to the back of the housings. '35-'36 axle housings have an angled flange welded to the housings with two holes for mounted radius rods. There is also an article on the '32-'53 Flathead Ford website in the Techno Files that shows how to ID all the different Ford rearends.
Let us know what you are you building. Many of us who post here like hot rods/modified early V8 Fords/etc., as well as stock originals. There all good!

sgtlethargic · 10-14-2010, 09:13 PM

Alright, but don't say I didn't warn ya. I'm pipe dreaming about an electric vehicle. I wanna go with a Model T body, frame and such because I'm going for lightweight. I'd love to get a '26-7 tudor sedan and turn it into a panel. I'd probably give it a healthy chop, too. I'd love Model T wire wheels, but I've got these '36 axles and wide-5 wheels and that seems to be the better/easier way to swap on good brakes. Mr Model T's gow job on the H.A.M.B. is the general look I like. Until I saw his car I wasn't too keen on T's for myself. If I had to label my project I'd call it a Watt Rod.

JM 35 Sedan · 10-15-2010, 08:38 AM

Cool! Keep us informed on the progress of your project.

sgtlethargic · 10-18-2010, 10:56 PM

Welp, I'm going to build it with an engine, first. I've got more parts on hand, and I don't have funds. It'll probably be a turbo 2.3L running on propane, like what I have in my '61 Comet. I've got a '37 front end with wide-fives, and a pair of Buick artillery wheels that I need to get a 6-lug rear for beside the offset one I currently have.

Karl Wolf · 10-19-2010, 12:25 AM

It's my opinion that it may be that your parts could be straightened... I did that for myself with out realizing it, put a bent rear together with drive shaft and wishbone that were not distorted, by forcing the good parts into place, I found after the fact that they pulled it into line... Karl

sgtlethargic · 10-19-2010, 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Karl Wolf

It's my opinion that it may be that your parts could be straightened... I did that for myself with out realizing it, put a bent rear together with drive shaft and wishbone that were not distorted, by forcing the good parts into place, I found after the fact that they pulled it into line... Karl

That's a good point; I'll look into fixing them. The axle housing and radius rod are both bent quite a bit more than would be taken up by assembling, though.

oldandtired · 10-19-2010, 05:37 PM

I posted earlier that I had some 37 axle housings...if you have a bent 35/6 rer axle housing, I also have some 35/6 rear axle housings. I cannot help with the radius rods. Where are you located? I am in SC.

sgtlethargic · 10-20-2010, 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by oldandtired

I posted earlier that I had some 37 axle housings...if you have a bent 35/6 rer axle housing, I also have some 35/6 rear axle housings. I cannot help with the radius rods. Where are you located? I am in SC.

Thanks for the offer- I appreciate it and I will try to keep it in mind. I might be using a more modern rear end to start with, and I need to check if the axles are bent, first.

Kurt

10-12-2010, 10:03 PM	#1
sgtlethargic Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: California Posts: 29	'37 front and rear end questions '37 rear end: What are the typical gear ratios? What other year housings(?) will fit (one side is bent)? Front and rear end: What hydraulic brakes will swap? Thanks, Kurt

10-13-2010, 07:27 AM	#3
jimTN Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Powell, TN Posts: 2,509	Re: '37 front and rear end questions Brakes: use 46-8 (slightly better design, floating shoes at bottom), use 39 pedals & master cyl mount.

10-13-2010, 07:52 AM	#4
oldandtired Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Edgefield, SC Posts: 811	Re: '37 front and rear end questions If you would post which side of the rear is damaged, I have some extra axle housings just sitting round in one of the storage buildings and might have the side you need. O&T

10-14-2010, 05:13 PM	#7
sgtlethargic Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: California Posts: 29	Re: '37 front and rear end questions It's looking like the parts are '35-6 because the rear axle housings have the radius rod mounting flanges welded on.

10-15-2010, 08:38 AM	#14
JM 35 Sedan Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Near Rising Sun, Maryland Posts: 10,858	Re: '37 front and rear end questions Cool! Keep us informed on the progress of your project. __________________ *John* *"Never give up on what you really want to do. The person with big dreams is more powerful than one with all the facts". Albert Einstein*

10-18-2010, 10:56 PM	#15
sgtlethargic Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: California Posts: 29	Re: '37 front and rear end questions Welp, I'm going to build it with an engine, first. I've got more parts on hand, and I don't have funds. It'll probably be a turbo 2.3L running on propane, like what I have in my '61 Comet. I've got a '37 front end with wide-fives, and a pair of Buick artillery wheels that I need to get a 6-lug rear for beside the offset one I currently have.

10-19-2010, 12:25 AM	#16
Karl Wolf Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Mill Valley,Ca. Posts: 1,509	Re: '37 front and rear end questions It's my opinion that it may be that your parts could be straightened... I did that for myself with out realizing it, put a bent rear together with drive shaft and wishbone that were not distorted, by forcing the good parts into place, I found after the fact that they pulled it into line... Karl

10-19-2010, 05:37 PM	#18
oldandtired Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Edgefield, SC Posts: 811	Re: '37 front and rear end questions I posted earlier that I had some 37 axle housings...if you have a bent 35/6 rer axle housing, I also have some 35/6 rear axle housings. I cannot help with the radius rods. Where are you located? I am in SC.