The Ford Barn

30aadoodlebug · 01-01-2018, 05:03 PM

So after laying in-wait for three months due to insurance company woes, my car is finally able to be taken apart. I have an old flathead disassembled, and ready for the machine shop, and the chevy 327 is coming out once it warms up out here on the east coast. Where would you guys recommend me starting the restoration process of the car? I'm doing all the work myself, and this is my first woody.

Thanks in advance!

Jon

30aadoodlebug · 01-01-2018, 05:12 PM

I totally forgot, here are some shots of the damage to the car!

Bulligen · 01-01-2018, 05:41 PM

Wow, That is a shame! Looks like you have plenty of space for disassembly. Thats the key!!

Mart · 01-01-2018, 05:43 PM

Well, you need to work out what is good and what needs work. Then if there is anything good that is in the way of fixing something bad, take it off if it is removable. Ever done anything like this before?

Basically identify each and every job that needs doing and then work out if there is a specific order in which order they need doing. Then start doing them one by one, until everything is done.

Good luck with it, by the way.

Mart.

30aadoodlebug · 01-01-2018, 05:50 PM

Hey Mart,

Yes I have done a few full on restorations, but this is my first woody. I'm a finish carpenter and stair builder by trade, so I am going to be doing all the wood work as well. Ron Hayden is going to be assisting me with any questions i may have along the way concerning the wood. This is, however, my first shoebox. My experience is with Model A's, and 70's and 80's pickups.

woodiewagon46 · 01-01-2018, 06:41 PM

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Ron is a great guy when it comes to Woodie wood. Ron was the MC for the get together after Wavecrest and he wore a grass skirt and a coconut bra, quite a character. How much wood needs to be replaced? By looking at the pictures the car doesn't look that bad. How are the floors? Klein Bros. are located in PA, a lot closer than CA, but I don't know if they do '50s. Great to get another Woodie on the right coast. Two Woodie shows in your area are Woodies on the Green in Wareham, Mass and Woodies in the Cove in Wells Maine. Are you a member of the National Woodie Club?

30aadoodlebug · 01-01-2018, 06:50 PM

Hey Woodiewagon! yes, I am a member. I was at wavcrest this year showing my uncles 48 chevy fleetwood. Its true what they say, woody people are the best people!

TJ · 01-01-2018, 07:16 PM

Get all the paint off along with the bondo and see what is good and bad with the sheetmetal. Since you already have assistance with the wood the sheetmetal is the next in line. I suspect you may need some patch panels. If the front fenders need panels I would try to find some nice rust free fenders. They are usually cheaper than trying to fix the old ones. Check the floors to see if you need floor pans. If this was an east coast car and not garaged in the winter it probably will need floor pans. Body work and paint is not cheap , but it pays to do it right. The wood and the paint/body work is what everyone looks at when you show your car, so it needs to be right.

30aadoodlebug · 01-01-2018, 07:40 PM

I also forgot to mention that I have a donor car, which is where the flathead came from. Its a 50 custom deluxe Tudor. Everything is there, except for the floors.

GB SISSON · 01-01-2018, 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by woodiewagon46

Ron is a great guy when it comes to Woodie wood. Ron was the MC for the get together after Wavecrest and he wore a grass skirt and a coconut bra, quite a character. How much wood needs to be replaced? By looking at the pictures the car doesn't look that bad. How are the floors? Klein Bros. are located in PA, a lot closer than CA, but I don't know if they do '50s. Great to get another Woodie on the right coast. Two Woodie shows in your area are Woodies on the Green in Wareham, Mass and Woodies in the Cove in Wells Maine. Are you a member of the National Woodie Club?

Gotta love any guy in a coconut bra and I thought the only thing in Wareham was the Tremont nail company. My dad was born in Wareham and his dad owned Sisson's Garage there. The first Ford dealership in the area. Grandma sold it to the Suddards in '29. I might fit in better on the right coast because I never had any interest at all in surfing, just the wagons.

Graeme / New Zealand · 01-01-2018, 08:24 PM

Those shoebox woodies are cool. I always liked them in that pale green colour that they came in. Glad to see a flathead is going back in.....I wish I had woodie (truly).

GB

30aadoodlebug · 01-01-2018, 08:47 PM

Graeme, nothing purrs like a well tuned flathead! i learned this from my father when I was ten.

Frank Miller · 01-02-2018, 09:20 AM

I'm near you and have a few shoebox parts but do not think you need much. The Early Ford V8 Club of New England meets at 7:30 the last Thursday of the month at the church in the center of Boxboro. Would be nice to meet you.

sawzall · 01-02-2018, 11:40 AM

i have a fairly nice rear gravel shield for that car for sale..
how was the 327 installed? was it with an adapter?

rockfla · 01-02-2018, 01:28 PM

Not sure what Ron recommends, I know a lot of restorer's use regular clear coat for the finish on the wood....my advice....dont't, to me the old fashion layers of varnish and cutting the layers as you build and sand is the only way to go...there is a reason its done that way and clear coat cant duplicate the look!!!!

woodiewagon46 · 01-02-2018, 05:08 PM

I went with varnish on my '46. I don't like the look of automotive clear on wood, looks too "plastic". We did Wavecrest in 2010 and I really want to do it again. Perhaps we can meet up at one of the New England shows.

01-01-2018, 05:03 PM	#1
30aadoodlebug Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: Boxborough, MA Posts: 274	Advice on starting restoration of my 50 woody So after laying in-wait for three months due to insurance company woes, my car is finally able to be taken apart. I have an old flathead disassembled, and ready for the machine shop, and the chevy 327 is coming out once it warms up out here on the east coast. Where would you guys recommend me starting the restoration process of the car? I'm doing all the work myself, and this is my first woody. Thanks in advance! Jon

01-01-2018, 05:41 PM	#3
Bulligen Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Elgin Illinois Posts: 736	Re: Advice on starting restoration of my 50 woody Wow, That is a shame! Looks like you have plenty of space for disassembly. Thats the key!!

01-01-2018, 05:43 PM	#4
Mart Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Solihull, England. Posts: 8,754	Re: Advice on starting restoration of my 50 woody Well, you need to work out what is good and what needs work. Then if there is anything good that is in the way of fixing something bad, take it off if it is removable. Ever done anything like this before? Basically identify each and every job that needs doing and then work out if there is a specific order in which order they need doing. Then start doing them one by one, until everything is done. Good luck with it, by the way. Mart.

01-01-2018, 05:50 PM	#5
30aadoodlebug Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: Boxborough, MA Posts: 274	Re: Advice on starting restoration of my 50 woody Hey Mart, Yes I have done a few full on restorations, but this is my first woody. I'm a finish carpenter and stair builder by trade, so I am going to be doing all the wood work as well. Ron Hayden is going to be assisting me with any questions i may have along the way concerning the wood. This is, however, my first shoebox. My experience is with Model A's, and 70's and 80's pickups.

01-01-2018, 06:41 PM	#6
woodiewagon46 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Long Island,NY Posts: 1,555	Re: Advice on starting restoration of my 50 woody Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements) Ron is a great guy when it comes to Woodie wood. Ron was the MC for the get together after Wavecrest and he wore a grass skirt and a coconut bra, quite a character. How much wood needs to be replaced? By looking at the pictures the car doesn't look that bad. How are the floors? Klein Bros. are located in PA, a lot closer than CA, but I don't know if they do '50s. Great to get another Woodie on the right coast. Two Woodie shows in your area are Woodies on the Green in Wareham, Mass and Woodies in the Cove in Wells Maine. Are you a member of the National Woodie Club?

01-01-2018, 06:50 PM	#7
30aadoodlebug Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: Boxborough, MA Posts: 274	Re: Advice on starting restoration of my 50 woody Hey Woodiewagon! yes, I am a member. I was at wavcrest this year showing my uncles 48 chevy fleetwood. Its true what they say, woody people are the best people!

01-01-2018, 07:16 PM	#8
TJ Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Napa,California Posts: 6,037	Re: Advice on starting restoration of my 50 woody Get all the paint off along with the bondo and see what is good and bad with the sheetmetal. Since you already have assistance with the wood the sheetmetal is the next in line. I suspect you may need some patch panels. If the front fenders need panels I would try to find some nice rust free fenders. They are usually cheaper than trying to fix the old ones. Check the floors to see if you need floor pans. If this was an east coast car and not garaged in the winter it probably will need floor pans. Body work and paint is not cheap , but it pays to do it right. The wood and the paint/body work is what everyone looks at when you show your car, so it needs to be right.

01-01-2018, 07:40 PM	#9
30aadoodlebug Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: Boxborough, MA Posts: 274	Re: Advice on starting restoration of my 50 woody I also forgot to mention that I have a donor car, which is where the flathead came from. Its a 50 custom deluxe Tudor. Everything is there, except for the floors.

01-01-2018, 08:24 PM	#11
Graeme / New Zealand Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Lower Hutt , New Zealand Posts: 2,126	Re: Advice on starting restoration of my 50 woody Those shoebox woodies are cool. I always liked them in that pale green colour that they came in. Glad to see a flathead is going back in.....I wish I had woodie (truly). GB __________________ "you can't make honey out of dog sh*t" "You're a long time looking at the lid"

01-01-2018, 08:47 PM	#12
30aadoodlebug Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: Boxborough, MA Posts: 274	Re: Advice on starting restoration of my 50 woody Graeme, nothing purrs like a well tuned flathead! i learned this from my father when I was ten.

01-02-2018, 09:20 AM	#13
Frank Miller Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Auburn, MA Posts: 2,106	Re: Advice on starting restoration of my 50 woody I'm near you and have a few shoebox parts but do not think you need much. The Early Ford V8 Club of New England meets at 7:30 the last Thursday of the month at the church in the center of Boxboro. Would be nice to meet you. __________________ “The technique of infamy is to start two lies at once and get people arguing heatedly over which is true.” ~ Ezra Pound

01-02-2018, 11:40 AM	#14
sawzall Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 420	Re: Advice on starting restoration of my 50 woody i have a fairly nice rear gravel shield for that car for sale.. how was the 327 installed? was it with an adapter? __________________ Pennsylvania has two seasons. Hershey week, and everything else https://sites.google.com/site/eastcoastwoodies/

01-02-2018, 01:28 PM	#15
rockfla Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: Jacksonville FL Posts: 3,958	Re: Advice on starting restoration of my 50 woody Not sure what Ron recommends, I know a lot of restorer's use regular clear coat for the finish on the wood....my advice....dont't, to me the old fashion layers of varnish and cutting the layers as you build and sand is the only way to go...there is a reason its done that way and clear coat cant duplicate the look!!!!

01-02-2018, 05:08 PM	#16
woodiewagon46 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Long Island,NY Posts: 1,555	Re: Advice on starting restoration of my 50 woody I went with varnish on my '46. I don't like the look of automotive clear on wood, looks too "plastic". We did Wavecrest in 2010 and I really want to do it again. Perhaps we can meet up at one of the New England shows.