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38 coupe · 12-06-2023, 06:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Brian

All Canadian blocks with insert mains [from 36 LB] have that pictured hole and another the same size out back beside the rear main....I can only surmise they were drilled to locate the block in fixtures for subsequent machining operations.

Did any other Ford V8 blocks have these two holes, or just the 36 LB blocks?

Thank you for the information.

Brian · 12-06-2023, 11:45 AM

Yes, the emphasis is on the first word in my post; 'ALL' Canadian blocks......

Graeme / New Zealand · 12-06-2023, 05:54 PM

Also Canadian C69A block. These have been discussed here before. Basically a 59 block with a few differences, including some 8BA features.

here's the thread.

https://fordbarn.com/forum/showthread.php?t=175740

GB

21stud · 12-07-2023, 05:12 AM

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Originally Posted by 38 coupe

Did any other Ford V8 blocks have these two holes, or just the 36 LB blocks?

Thank you for the information.

German blocks also have those holes.

38 coupe · 12-09-2023, 10:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brian

Yes, the emphasis is on the first word in my post; 'ALL' Canadian blocks......

Thank you for setting me straight.

38 coupe · 12-09-2023, 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by 21stud

German blocks also have those holes.

Interesting. I wonder how many Ford engine building locations did this?

38 coupe · 12-10-2023, 10:40 AM

This is an overview of the information I have combined from various sources, please correct me where I make mistakes.

Canadian engines largely followed USA engine design, with odd details thrown in the mix.

English engines were manufactured at the Dagenham plant and were always 21 stud engines. I have good pictures of the Pilot type engines with the core plugs on the back above the bell housing.
Are there other Dagenham specific engine types produced, or did all the other motors follow USA designs?

German engines were manufactured at the Cologne-Niehl plant. These started with 1935 type engines and followed USA type practices until WW2, with the introduction of newer designs lagging a year or two from USA introduction. From WW2 to the end of production local engineering made changes to engine design to meet their needs. First a distributor was added above the oil pump. Then some but not all features of 8BA engines were introduced (cooling improvements and locked in bearings adopted, bell housing and distributor change not adopted). Production continued until 1961. A website with five pages of good pictures of a late German engine is here: https://www.brandow.eu/div/29GT/index.html

French engines I can find information about the last production motors for the French military, but have not found much prior. What lead up to the military motors?

12-06-2023, 11:45 AM	#22
Brian Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Masterton, New Zealand Posts: 3,834	Re: Flathead V8 blocks not cast at the Rouge plant Yes, the emphasis is on the first word in my post; 'ALL' Canadian blocks...... __________________ Unfortunately, two half wits don't make a whole wit!

12-06-2023, 05:54 PM	#23
Graeme / New Zealand Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Lower Hutt , New Zealand Posts: 2,126	Re: Flathead V8 blocks not cast at the Rouge plant Also Canadian C69A block. These have been discussed here before. Basically a 59 block with a few differences, including some 8BA features. here's the thread. https://fordbarn.com/forum/showthread.php?t=175740 GB __________________ "you can't make honey out of dog sh*t" "You're a long time looking at the lid"

12-10-2023, 10:40 AM	#27
38 coupe Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: South Texas Posts: 1,631	Re: Flathead V8 blocks not cast at the Rouge plant This is an overview of the information I have combined from various sources, please correct me where I make mistakes. Canadian engines largely followed USA engine design, with odd details thrown in the mix. English engines were manufactured at the Dagenham plant and were always 21 stud engines. I have good pictures of the Pilot type engines with the core plugs on the back above the bell housing. Are there other Dagenham specific engine types produced, or did all the other motors follow USA designs? German engines were manufactured at the Cologne-Niehl plant. These started with 1935 type engines and followed USA type practices until WW2, with the introduction of newer designs lagging a year or two from USA introduction. From WW2 to the end of production local engineering made changes to engine design to meet their needs. First a distributor was added above the oil pump. Then some but not all features of 8BA engines were introduced (cooling improvements and locked in bearings adopted, bell housing and distributor change not adopted). Production continued until 1961. A website with five pages of good pictures of a late German engine is here: https://www.brandow.eu/div/29GT/index.html French engines I can find information about the last production motors for the French military, but have not found much prior. What lead up to the military motors?