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Old 10-13-2012, 05:11 PM   #1
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Default Toe-in Adj. tool


It became very aparent to me today that my toe in needed better adjustment. After a day of enjoying the changing of the leaves on the back country roads in Westen PA I totaly shreaded a good tire.

When I put the front end together I attempted to check the toe-in with a wodden ruler. Thought It was close, I was wrong.

Any one have instructions on how to build a more accurate tool to measure the toe in?

Or If on could be purchashed?

I did a search and found nothing on the subject.


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Old 10-13-2012, 05:32 PM   #2
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Here are three photos of an alignment tool I built based on a design one of our club members came up with. Works great!!! I use masking tape on the tire and the edge of the tool. The ends of the alignment tool where it comes in contact with the tire are beveled so you get good contact with the tape on the tire. This is where I make my mesurement with a small scale.



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Old 10-13-2012, 05:55 PM   #3
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There's a bunch of info in this thread:

https://fordbarn.com/forum/showthread.php?t=74237
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Old 10-13-2012, 07:02 PM   #4
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The tool is called a "Duby Wheel Alignment Gauge." A Google search will get you several suppliers. Still made exactly like the the one in the Ford Service Bulletins. Price $70. to $100. depending on the supplier.
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Old 10-13-2012, 07:35 PM   #5
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I have used the Duby gauge and it worked great. Don't smoke a duby before using the Duby or everything gets messed up.
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Old 10-13-2012, 07:48 PM   #6
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I use a flat style spring loaded curtain rod, With a seamstress cloth measuring tape that has a sticky back and attach that to the curtain rod. Easy to install in the front of the tires and read, and then place in the back and read. Is it high tech? Not really but gets it close enough for me. Just a thought.
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I used a 1" round spring loaded curtain/shower rod and it works just great. Kinda like yor flat rod.
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Old 10-13-2012, 08:11 PM   #8
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Toe at 1/16 +- 1/32, Close enough.
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Old 10-13-2012, 08:21 PM   #9
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Recently, I asked some question about 1932 Ford front end specifications and got a lot of great answers. The local Ford garage dialed my front in at 1/2 degree - laser methodology. Tires are now wearing even and we track much better in a cross wind. Mine had too much tow out, with similar disatrous tread wear.
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Recently, I asked some question about 1932 Ford front end specifications and got a lot of great answers. The local Ford garage dialed my front in at 1/2 degree - laser methodology. Tires are now wearing even and we track much better in a cross wind. Mine had too much tow out, with similar disatrous tread wear.

Local Ford garage that does Model A's or any car? TIA
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Old 10-13-2012, 09:17 PM   #11
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1/2 degree of what??
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Old 10-13-2012, 09:34 PM   #12
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It became very aparent to me today that my toe in needed better adjustment. After a day of enjoying the changing of the leaves on the back country roads in Westen PA I totaly shreaded a good tire.

When I put the front end together I attempted to check the toe-in with a wodden ruler. Thought It was close, I was wrong.

Any one have instructions on how to build a more accurate tool to measure the toe in?

Or If on could be purchashed?

I did a search and found nothing on the subject.


thanks
Unless both tires wore equally (and similarly) you need far more than a toe-in adjustment! It sounds like you have a badly bent front axle.
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It became very aparent to me today that my toe in needed better adjustment. After a day of enjoying the changing of the leaves on the back country roads in Westen PA I totaly shreaded a good tire.

When I put the front end together I attempted to check the toe-in with a wodden ruler. Thought It was close, I was wrong.

Any one have instructions on how to build a more accurate tool to measure the toe in?

Or If on could be purchashed?

I did a search and found nothing on the subject.


thanks
NAPA Auto parts have them. Have stock number if needed.
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NAPA Auto parts have them. Have stock number if needed.
I would like to have the NAPA part number.
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Old 10-15-2012, 10:52 AM   #15
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I would like to have the NAPA part number.
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As Gary posted,

NAPA Part no. 807-2000 Alignment Gage.
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Someone recently posted that he pushes 2 straight pins into tire tread, measures between them, rolls car forward, and measures again! NOT BAD!
I think I read somewhere that the measuring point should be 11" above the floor. Saw a pic of some brand name, spring loaded toe in guage that goes between the tires, and it had 2 skinny 11" chains dangling, that guaged the proper height. Bill W.
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Old 10-14-2012, 10:54 AM   #17
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Someone recently posted that he pushes 2 straight pins into tire tread, measures between them, rolls car forward, and measures again! NOT BAD!
I think I read somewhere that the measuring point should be 11" above the floor. Saw a pic of some brand name, spring loaded toe in guage that goes between the tires, and it had 2 skinny 11" chains dangling, that guaged the proper height. Bill W.
It's six inches above the floor, not eleven.

http://abarnyard.com/workshop/align.htm
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Old 10-14-2012, 11:21 AM   #18
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It's six inches above the floor, not eleven.

http://abarnyard.com/workshop/align.htm
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Thanks for the correction I just told the Dog to help me remember that! LOVE THAT DOG! Bill W.
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It's six inches above the floor, not eleven.

http://abarnyard.com/workshop/align.htm
I think folks don't think to click on links that are posted. I put that page up 14 years ago and many have never seen it!
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Marco,

I read your posting and found it very helpful when I adjusted toe-in.

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