The Ford Barn

shoe box Jack · 02-05-2016, 03:00 PM

On the jalopy journal there is a valve timing indexer on u tube. Dose anyone no if this indexer is for sale. Jack.

Angledrive · 02-05-2016, 07:27 PM

Yes, He is making an order. His Handle is CheatersPete from France. If you are not a Hamb member I can get you his email address so you can contact him.

51 MERC-CT · 02-06-2016, 06:18 AM

Contact for information ---
[email protected]

Fordestes · 02-06-2016, 07:17 AM

What is a valve guide indexer? I would like to see one , I have dealt with cheaters pete and he is a prince of a gentleman to do business with. very Honest.

51 MERC-CT · 02-06-2016, 09:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sidevalve8ba

I think this is the device they are referring to:

www.youtube.com/watch?v=45ryUG12Eh8

Jungle Jim, really

sidevalve8ba · 02-06-2016, 09:38 AM

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Oooops! Try this clip instead.

/www.youtube.com/watch?v=Joq_gSXfu6I

flatheadmurre · 02-06-2016, 09:40 AM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Joq_gSXfu6I

Tony, NY · 02-06-2016, 09:44 AM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Joq_gSXfu6I

34PKUP · 02-06-2016, 10:28 AM

What is the purpose of this tool??

tubman · 02-06-2016, 11:25 AM

You use it so you can set the clearances on the valves in your flathead with only 2 rotations of the crankshaft. It's just a timesaver. To a lot of us, the name, "Pushrod Cheater" is kinda misleading, because we are used to "pushrods" as those long skinny things on overhead valve engines. When you remember that Ford referred to the actual valve lifters as "pushrods", things become a lot clearer.

You can do the same thing by setting the valve at it's highest extemsion and then rotating the crank 1 full rotation to set that valve. Since there are 16 valves, this method require 16 rotations of the crankshaft. This cuts turning time by a factor of 8, thus the term "cheater".

Cheaterpete · 03-02-2016, 10:51 AM

tool available and ready to ship now, if interested, please send email to [email protected]

thanks

Joe Immler · 03-02-2016, 11:28 AM

51 Merc. Thanks for accidentally sharing Jungle Pam hardy. I remember her from back in the day. HOT !

sidevalve8ba · 03-02-2016, 12:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joe Immler

51 Merc. Thanks for accidentally sharing Jungle Pam hardy. I remember her from back in the day. HOT !

Actually that was me that accidentally shared that clip but she is fun to look at.

That's what happens when you push the wrong button.

Joe Immler · 03-02-2016, 01:12 PM

Oops! Well, thank you sidevalve. I sure push a lot of wrong buttons on my computer too.

jack orchard · 03-02-2016, 02:23 PM

How much are these here indexers?

Andy · 03-02-2016, 02:56 PM

I have a couple of old valve indexers like shown in the famous Racer Brown photo. They are for use with the crab distibuters. I actually had made a home made one to work the same. I cut a disk from some sheet metal and marked off the firing order around the rim. I attached with a sleeve and a set screw to the rotor shaft on the crab. I got the engine to TDC and firing on #1 and put a pointer to #1 cylinder on the disk. I figured if the cylinder was firing, the valves would be shut. You only turn the engine two revolutions. Worked fine.

tubman · 03-02-2016, 08:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jack orchard

How much are these here indexers?

I paid $68 (sorry for "talking out of school" Pete). I think it's worth it if it will help him in his "enterprise"; who knows what he may come up with next!

Tony, NY · 03-02-2016, 08:49 PM

I have one coming but the tracking info is in French.

02-05-2016, 07:27 PM	#2
Angledrive Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Lakeland Florida Posts: 303	Re: pushrod cheater Yes, He is making an order. His Handle is CheatersPete from France. If you are not a Hamb member I can get you his email address so you can contact him.

02-06-2016, 06:18 AM	#3
51 MERC-CT Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: East Hartford, Ct Posts: 5,898	Re: pushrod cheater Contact for information --- [email protected] __________________ DON'T RECALL DOING SOMETHING FOR MYSELF BASED ON SOMEONE ELSE'S LIKES OR DISLIKES

02-06-2016, 07:17 AM	#4
Fordestes Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 886	Re: pushrod cheater What is a valve guide indexer? I would like to see one , I have dealt with cheaters pete and he is a prince of a gentleman to do business with. very Honest. Last edited by Fordestes; 02-06-2016 at 07:20 AM. Reason: spelling

02-06-2016, 09:38 AM	#6
sidevalve8ba Senior Member Join Date: May 2013 Location: Harrisonburg, VA Posts: 842	Re: pushrod cheater Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements) Oooops! Try this clip instead. /www.youtube.com/watch?v=Joq_gSXfu6I

02-06-2016, 09:40 AM	#7
flatheadmurre Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Sweden Posts: 3,045	Re: pushrod cheater https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Joq_gSXfu6I

02-05-2016, 03:00 PM	#1
shoe box Jack Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Kingston Ontario Canada Posts: 251	pushrod cheater On the jalopy journal there is a valve timing indexer on u tube. Dose anyone no if this indexer is for sale. Jack.

02-06-2016, 09:44 AM	#8
Tony, NY Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Capital of Corruption , NY Posts: 811	Re: pushrod cheater https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Joq_gSXfu6I

02-06-2016, 10:28 AM	#9
34PKUP Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 794	Re: pushrod cheater What is the purpose of this tool??

02-06-2016, 11:25 AM	#10
tubman Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: Minnesota, Florida Keys Posts: 10,320	Re: pushrod cheater You use it so you can set the clearances on the valves in your flathead with only 2 rotations of the crankshaft. It's just a timesaver. To a lot of us, the name, "Pushrod Cheater" is kinda misleading, because we are used to "pushrods" as those long skinny things on overhead valve engines. When you remember that Ford referred to the actual valve lifters as "pushrods", things become a lot clearer. You can do the same thing by setting the valve at it's highest extemsion and then rotating the crank 1 full rotation to set that valve. Since there are 16 valves, this method require 16 rotations of the crankshaft. This cuts turning time by a factor of 8, thus the term "cheater".

03-02-2016, 10:51 AM	#11
Cheaterpete Member Join Date: Mar 2014 Posts: 64	Re: pushrod cheater tool available and ready to ship now, if interested, please send email to [email protected] thanks

03-02-2016, 11:28 AM	#12
Joe Immler Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Massillon, Ohio Posts: 783	Re: pushrod cheater 51 Merc. Thanks for accidentally sharing Jungle Pam hardy. I remember her from back in the day. HOT !

03-02-2016, 01:12 PM	#14
Joe Immler Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Massillon, Ohio Posts: 783	Re: pushrod cheater Oops! Well, thank you sidevalve. I sure push a lot of wrong buttons on my computer too.

03-02-2016, 02:23 PM	#15
jack orchard Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: summerfield florida Posts: 383	Re: pushrod cheater How much are these here indexers? __________________ Proud FNG We fixem cars. Heap Good!

03-02-2016, 02:56 PM	#16
Andy Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Kerrville, Tx Posts: 2,771	Re: pushrod cheater I have a couple of old valve indexers like shown in the famous Racer Brown photo. They are for use with the crab distibuters. I actually had made a home made one to work the same. I cut a disk from some sheet metal and marked off the firing order around the rim. I attached with a sleeve and a set screw to the rotor shaft on the crab. I got the engine to TDC and firing on #1 and put a pointer to #1 cylinder on the disk. I figured if the cylinder was firing, the valves would be shut. You only turn the engine two revolutions. Worked fine.

03-02-2016, 08:49 PM	#18
Tony, NY Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Capital of Corruption , NY Posts: 811	Re: pushrod cheater I have one coming but the tracking info is in French.