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Old 09-21-2012, 05:18 AM   #1
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Hello, I am new to this site. But not new to FoMoCo.
I own several Fords, and I'm a huge musclecar nut.
however, recently got bitten by a bug that has led me down the vintage path. and have brought home a few old Ford items.

Now, I picked up what I believe is a '32 two door sedan. (rough condition)
and a Frame that I believe is from a '33 or '34 Ford. Just guessing as it does not have a body, but it does have alot of parts still attached, mostly front suspension pieces.

Dont want to sound like a complete idiot, but what would be some indicators of what exactly this frame may be?
I do have some photographs of my finds, if that would help.

Sorry if my stupidity offends, just trying to learn about what I brought home.

Thank You.
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Old 09-21-2012, 05:38 AM   #2
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32 has a 106" wheelbase, 33/34 has 112" wheelbase.

32 has a swage line on the outside of the chassis running from near the cowl mounting point sweeping back and down following the bottom of the rail finishing near where the rear fenders mount.

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Old 09-21-2012, 05:50 AM   #3
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here is the '32? Sedan:




I just brought the frame home that I think is a '33 or '34.....
will try and get detailed photos of it now that it is out of the field I found it in, and on blocks in my yard.
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Old 09-21-2012, 05:59 AM   #4
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The '33-'34 frame has a massive X-shaped center cross member whereas the center crossmember of a '32 frame is in the form of a somewhat compact K shape as shown below.
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Old 09-21-2012, 06:00 AM   #5
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the frame in question, as I found it:

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Old 09-21-2012, 06:01 AM   #6
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Welcome aboard! That IS a '32 Tudor (Ford's name for a two door sedan.) The '32 is a very unique model, kind of like a '58 Chevy- totally unlike the Tri-Fives that preceded it and very different from the '59 and '60 that followed. I'll try to add a link to some frame drawings to help you with IDing the other frame.

http://www.wescottsauto.com/Tech/FrameDiagram1932.pdf

http://www.wescottsauto.com/Tech/Fra...ram1933-34.pdf

http://www.wescottsauto.com/Tech/Fra...ram1935-40.pdf

It's nice that you have the opportunity to still find stuff like that!

The axle that's lying across the frame in the last picture doen't look like a Ford. All the Fords of the era had springs that ran from side to side. That appears to have springs that run parallel to the frame rails.
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Old 09-21-2012, 06:05 AM   #7
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you should see the non Ford stuff.
some cool things in this field.
my wife wanted to make a Flower Planter out of this sedan.
Luckily, I steered her towards a '36 Oldsmobile that is more suited to her yard decorating ideas.
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Old 09-21-2012, 06:08 AM   #8
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The bumper is 36. The serial number should be stamped into the frame about even with the steering box.
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Old 09-21-2012, 06:13 AM   #9
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Looks like possibly a 36 front bumper on that frame, nice find
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Old 09-21-2012, 06:15 AM   #10
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Welcome aboard! That IS a '32 Tudor (Ford's name for a two door sedan.)

It's nice that you have the opportunity to still find stuff like that!

The axle that's lying across the frame in the last picture doen't look like a Ford. All the Fords of the era had springs that ran from side to side. That appears to have springs that run parallel to the frame rails.

Sorry. that axle is attached to a home-made trailer frame that was easily lifted off of the frame I wanted.
my friend took the home made trailer and axle home with him.
along with a '34 Chevrolet Frame. (He has a '31 Chevrolet)

I took the '34 Chevrolet Radiator/Grill surround/Grill/emblem and headlights home with me:

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Here's a neat video showing '36 Chevy / Pontiac assembly.
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Just curious, where these on a farm? Looks as if there are many treasures laying out there. Love the look of the metal, up here that stuff would be way gone, ma nature has quite the appetite for old steel in Michigan.
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The front cross member on the frame in your photo is definitely post-'34; likely '35 or '36 (and even more likely the latter given the front bumper).
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For one, I can tell you that being a native of South Dakota which borders Montana, we had a LOT of that stuff still lying around in farmyards. I traveled Montana, Wyoming, South Dakota and Nebraska backroads extensively and viewed a virtual treasure trove of old iron.
Most of the old guys are going into town to retire and that stuff just sits there quietly going back into the earth. There are sections, (if you get permission FIRST) on the Indian Reservations that will yield some real finds. I got my 1951 (driver) from one of the Reservations. (sold it before moving to AZ).
Also got a real nice 1934 Ford pickup from Montana that was complete and the guy had tons of that era Ford stuff left. (also had to sell it before moving to AZ)
Living there gives an old car nut a real advantage over those who just are tourists trying to find that stuff. I rode Amtrack from North Dakota to Washington and you would not believe the old cars that are cast off near the tracks (which are now away from the highways) along that route. I was salavating nearly the whole days ride.
Ungyded you have a great find and welcome to the old Ford family of car nuts.
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For one, I can tell you that being a native of South Dakota which borders Montana, we had a LOT of that stuff still lying around in farmyards. I traveled Montana, Wyoming, South Dakota and Nebraska backroads extensively and viewed a virtual treasure trove of old iron.
Most of the old guys are going into town to retire and that stuff just sits there quietly going back into the earth. There are sections, (if you get permission FIRST) on the Indian Reservations that will yield some real finds. I got my 1951 (driver) from one of the Reservations. (sold it before moving to AZ).
Also got a real nice 1934 Ford pickup from Montana that was complete and the guy had tons of that era Ford stuff left. (also had to sell it before moving to AZ)
Living there gives an old car nut a real advantage over those who just are tourists trying to find that stuff. I rode Amtrack from North Dakota to Washington and you would not believe the old cars that are cast off near the tracks (which are now away from the highways) along that route. I was salavating nearly the whole days ride.
Ungyded you have a great find and welcome to the old Ford family of car nuts.
Oh how I wish I was closer, by the way that 32 looks to be in real nice condition. Great save!
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Old 09-21-2012, 11:30 AM   #16
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pulled a number off of the Frame in question.


18- 322170

if that helps.
my camera is acting up. but as soon as I figure out what and why I'll post better pictures.

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Old 09-21-2012, 02:39 PM   #17
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That serial number is for a 33. See:

http://www.vanpeltsales.com/FH_web/f...ialnumbers.htm
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Old 09-21-2012, 05:51 PM   #18
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There are still alot of "junk yards " here in Nebraska .Every small town usually has one .The towns also have garages which have old vehicles tucked away in them .
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Riding Amtrak can be painful for a vintage tin lover. Lots of good scenery though!!
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welcome to the 'Barn.....any axles or wheels with that frame....and if you find another digit at the end of the number you found, it's a '36....maybe look in the other places as indicated in the earlier link to MacVP's website....good luck and have fun....Mike

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