commercial color list for 1929

[McMimmcs]

Originally Posted by Charlie Stephens

It may come back to haunt you if you sell it.

Charlie Stephens

What you say regarding resale is very accurate. If you’re going to keep it forever paint it your color but when you put it up for sale your buying audience is very diminished!

[Chris Haynes]

Originally Posted by rkmiller

Chris,
From the frame number it is a late - probably December 1929. It has the 1930 front cross member and 2 tooth steering gear. Fenders and radiator/shroud 1929.
Ryan

You have an Early 1930 as the model year changed before yours was built. There were more available commercial colors for the 1930 models.

[rkmiller]

Chris,


When I looked up the frame number the engine was manufactured in OCT 28 1929, but the frame has the later 1930 cross member so I was figuring a December build, but it could be November?

When did the model year change and would it still have the 1929 cab?


I am going to post some photos after work today.

My dad and grandfather collected a lot of Model A's and Model T's from Southwest Kansas back in the 1960-70's. So I don't know how much is original to the frame for sure. Dad had a lot of parts to draw from to replace stuff that was back then deemed to rusty to keep.

We had a big farm sale in 1988 and I got to keep this one. I have just had too many other projects, work, kids, - life in general to get around to working on it until now.



Thanks!

[Bob C]

Looks like the front cross member was changed in October 1929, see
page 387 of the Service Bulletins.

[rkmiller]

Bob,


I had read that before too, so I figured it was built on the later frame with 1929 sheet metal.
I talked to dad and he thinks that the hood,tank, cowl and door posts with floor, and the bed were original, maybe the fenders.


The doors in the photo came off a roadster, but I have two other sets of doors in sad shape without handles for roadster pickups. I have a good original top frame for it and wheels.


The frame is straight and good and I have a lot of extra parts.


Engine is from July 1929 so it is not original to that frame, but so far is standard bore and rebuild-able per the shop it is at now. My extra engine was not any good per the shop.



This photo is from 1989 at the farm sale with me standing next to it. At this time I could drive it around, but it has not been run since.

[rkmiller]

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Here is the running gear as of March 2020.

[Chris Haynes]

Originally Posted by rkmiller

Chris,When did the model year change and would it still have the 1929 cab?
Thanks!

The '29 cab was used through May 1930.

[rkmiller]

Here are the Dupont and PPG Gunmetal blue with a black stripe for reference. Photos taken on a cloudy day, sunshine and in the shade.
Dupont is pea green, ditzler is more gray
The other hood is dupont andalusite blue with black stripe.
On a lot of these the paint companies take a color match that is closest to what that they already have formulas for on other cars.

[McMimmcs]

on a small sample the blue is not very impressive!

[rkmiller]

I am going to have some color mixed to match the old pyroxylin paint sample book my dad gave me that is from the late 50's. All the other colors from the old book are similar to the new MAFCA color chip book EXCEPT Gunmetal Blue - in the pyroxylin paint chip book it is more blue and the new MAFCA book it is a lot more green.


I know I am whipping a dead horse here, and I am probably obsessed now. Will try to post some photos as I get some paint mixed and spray it out.


Short story: I painted the front end of a red car back in the early 1990's and the paint had faded some so I had to match it by hand. It turned out great and matched perfectly in the sun/shade during the day, but at night under the street light it looked way more purple than the old paint on the back half of the car.


a slight change or in the amount of one color or adding a slight amount of another color can throw things off.


The MAFCA Gunmetal blue looks good in the shade and under the paint mixers white light with a blue/gray look, but when in sunlight it changes completely to a light green.


BTW I checked the MAFCA paint guide and Black is listed, guess should of had my walmart readers on! Duh!



Ryan

[rkmiller]

Here is what was left of the original color on the tank and inside of the cowl. Dad pulled the pickup out of pasture in the late 1960's so I cannot say it was the factory applied paint.


Ok will resize photo, I think it was too big and did not want to upload.

[rkmiller]

Here is the paint that was left on the tank and inside of the cowl, on parts of the bed and under the hood. More Blue with with a little green.
These sat out in a pasture until the 1960's and since have been sitting in a shed. I also cannot say for 100% sure that this is the original paint as it is as found in the 60's.

The MAFCA paint chip and the Dupont DS151 that matches turn apple green as in the previous posts in the sunlight.