Fellas... I've had enough...

[C26Pinelake]

I for one have been constantly harassed for over two years and as such I welcome Ryan's new rules / procedures! They are long overdue. Thanks Ryan, Wayne

[Dennis Pereira]

I guess I missed all the drama thanks Ryan . And I would like to thank everyone that's helped me along the way.

[newshirt]

Have you ever driven your antique car to a car show? Did you put your name on the placard and place it in the windshield?

And did the 'trolls' follow you home and steal your sweet ride? Probably not.

Real names on public forums are the same.

[Jeff/Illinois]

Originally Posted by Larry Jenkins

Exactly the reasons why Ahooga is almost dead..

Larry

I forgot about that site, haven't looked at it in ages. Seemed like it was only maybe a dozen folks on there anyway. And Dale letting guys vent about politics did get old.

Fordbarn was always a better set up. Well run. Nice pictures posted. Responses took the thread back to the top. Most of the top Model A-V8-Model T guys seemed to be here anyway. Too many to list!!

The cream (Fordbarn) does always rise, to the top!

[ModelAMike1930]

Amen!

[C26Pinelake]

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Originally Posted by bambooboy

agree ryan. can someone send a P.M.of ryans message to purty swoft. tom

It would be my pleasure! Wayne

[Roger Byrne]

Thanks Ryan for all you do. This forum provides a wealth of information to the new people in the hobby and to those of us who have been around a while. Do what you think best to keep this forum going. Taking care of this site takes enough of your time and there is no reason for you to put up with a few children that can play well with others. Go ahead with your plan, sounds fine to me.
Hang in there . . we, and future generations, need a site like this to help keep the old iron on the road.

[SHEC]

Ryan -

Thank you for all the hard work and putting up this site with so few technical glitches. We truly appreciate the Forum and enjoy all who partake of it in the right spirit.

Please don't give up us as the vast majority are following the rules and garnering lots of fun Ford facts and helpful hints.

Thank you Sir!

Be well -

SHEC

[Mike V. Florida]

Originally Posted by newshirt

Have you ever driven your antique car to a car show? Did you put your name on the placard and place it in the windshield?

And did the 'trolls' follow you home and steal your sweet ride? Probably not.

Real names on public forums are the same.

They stopped that here in South Florida for just that reason. First names only.

[gz]

As stated above, thank you Ryan for all of your hard work and dedication.
Your impact on the hobby can not be measured and your websites are appreciated worldwide. Keep up the GREAT work.-GZ

[Russell in Tulsa]

I too want to thank Ryan for his tolerance and a great site.

Now as to the names and cities should I change my handle from Russell in Tulsa or do you think I'm OK? Just kidding as I bet I'm not the "only" Russell in town, and don't feel I've opened myself up to theft.

I'm grateful to have this site to come and learn about the Model A and tales from the past and regret that I "wasted" time with other interests (at the time) re: motor home, boats, and other such things I now have no interest in that could have been spent more with the "A".

I, and possibly others, thought a PM was private. Shows how much I understand computers. Ha!

[Fullraceflathead]

Being it is a Private Forum all of it's members must follow the Rules. If they don't they risk being deleted.
Membership is an option not a right.

[Rowdy]

In the town I grew up in more know me as Rowdy than Rod. Although I live 25 miles from there it is almost an even mix. Rod

[5window]

There's always going to 10 or 20% who cause 80-90% of the problems.

Thanks, Ryan, for what you do. I'm cool with your rules.

[5window]

Originally Posted by newshirt

Have you ever driven your antique car to a car show? Did you put your name on the placard and place it in the windshield?

And did the 'trolls' follow you home and steal your sweet ride? Probably not.

Real names on public forums are the same.

Yeah, except a local show is local and the forums are world wide.

[inex01]

Originally Posted by Ryan

There are social cliques in this community... And through posts on the forum as well as through private messages, these cliques seem to be constantly battling each other and seemingly measuring each other's manhood.

The reasoning behind it all baffles me. This is, after all, just a forum about old Fords. I can't, no matter how hard I try, find a rational reason for anyone to attack or ridicule another person over an old Ford.

I have a whole bunch of kids. One of them is 9 and her class recently got to debate on the lunch menu - what is served on what days and things like that. Now if you have a 9 year old, you know how important this is to them. It's like three or four on their life priority list.

Anyway, the parents were told to sit on the sidelines and let the kids go at it while the teacher moderated. They argued back and forth over things like pizza and burgers for an entire hour. In that hour, not a single 9 year old called another 9 year old a name... And not a single 9 year old told another 9 year old to "shut up."

Amazing given the way some of you guys treat each other, isn't it?

I have a theory. Kids are honest. Kids are wholesome. They haven't been tainted by society and they haven't had their ego stomped on by years of the kinds of abuse life can bring. Grown men on the internet, however, are entirely different. Some of them aren't honest. Most aren't wholesome. Some have battered egos. Hide them behind a computer screen with a silly username and an avatar and all of this is amplified to the point of nausea.

If we were all at a bar having this conversation, do you think anyone of you would tell anyone else in the conversation to "shut the fuck up?" And if you did, how long do you think you would be welcome in the group?

So why on earth would you do it on a forum about old Fords?

I believe it's because some of you like the feeling of being something online you really aren't in real life. And some of you like to act online in a way that you are too scared to act offline. In either case, I don't like to host these kinds of fellas. I would rather them not be on my forum at all. Maybe that's my issue... Maybe I should be more understanding of these folks, but I've failed miserably when I have tried.

In any case, I'm done. I'm done baby sitting a bunch of kids at a name calling party.

- Want call some other guy a name because you disagree with him? Your account is gone.

- Want to constantly report another member's posts because you feel he is doing the same to you? Your account is gone.

- Want to team up on another group of members with all your buddies? All of your accounts are gone.

In short, I'm done fellas. It's either you or me... And it isn't gonna be me.

Note: To those of you that are just here to enjoy old Fords, learn a thing or two, or teach something to the masses - please excuse this post and understand that in order to end all of the drama, you might start to see some really common names around here gone.

Well said! this Forum is a super tool and there is absolutely no reason to be-little anyone with a question about his/her Model A.

[mshmodela]

Originally Posted by Benson

I think name and phone number is a very bad idea.

Might as well give them your street address also!

1. I was involved in the late 70s with the BBS Bulletin Board System of computers (text only back then) ... there were some guys that posted names, phone and address.

At the time there were very few computers to choose from and they were not cheap! $4000 to $5000 each, plus $1000 for a printer. In 1979 a new Chevy Malibu cost $6000.

In 1977 that was a lot of money.

Guess which folks got their computers stolen?

2. Same thing with the early cell phones. The "in thing" in 1987 was to have a cell phone antenna on the rear window of your car. Guys at work asked "How come you have a hidden antenna for your cell phone? Don't you want everyone to know that you have a cell phone?"

Bingo ... you got it ... I do not want them to know.

Again which ones do you think got their cell phones stolen?

3. I do not want the criminals who are trolling the Forums to know where they might find my Model As, tools and parts ... why make it so easy for them?

If you've ever been stalked online, you'd not wish to put your real name out there..

[31 Model A]

Originally Posted by mshmodela

If you've ever been stalked online, you'd not wish to put your real name out there..

I don't think Ryan will go with those suggestions, if he does, I'll have to leave and take all my knowledge and expertise about Model A Ford with me.

[BILL WILLIAMSON]

Ryan,
Are P.M.'s REALLY PRIVATE?
Bill W.

[Willie Krash]

I walked away from the Model T forums at MTFCA. I asked the leadership to moderate and get rid of politics et. al.
Hobbies that grow prosper. I took heat from that leadership but their very own written policy backed me up. They did ask that politics etc be avoided. Post for the good of the hobby.
Thanks Ryan and MTFCA (on the other side).