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Old 06-16-2020, 08:45 PM   #1
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Is there a paint (preferably aerosol) that works well for making modern zinc plated fasteners look like the correct raven finished nuts and bolts? I'm building a "non-points" kind of car but I can't stand the sight of bright shiny hardware.
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Also, is there anything good for faking parkerizing?
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Old 06-16-2020, 08:53 PM   #2
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When in a pinch I use John Deere muffler black. Some of the best satin black spray paint I've ever used...

https://www.ebay.com/itm/John-Deere-...7/362866990575
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http://www.seymourpaint.com/marketin...33-flat-black/

I am so impressed with the Seymour rattle can paint, that I buy it whenever I see it. It sprays like a gun. Not kidding.
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One winter, when when my '55 was all apart (for body-off-frame restoration), I cleaned all the salvageable nuts, bolts, washers and hardware and tried to re-plate them all as they had been treated originally. I got a zinc electroplating kit, some polishing compound and buffers and a black-oxide dip and seal kit.
The black-oxide is not an electroplate, but you have to dip the parts (within a screen/basket) into a blackening solution for a couple days. It is a two step process. After the black oxide is dry and hardened, then you dip the parts in a clear sealer (similar to a shellac). I used the sealer also for the zinc electro-plated parts.
Believe me, it wasn't worth all the time and work.
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Old 06-16-2020, 10:32 PM   #5
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If it were me. I would take a piece of strong cardboard and poke holes in it (small enough that the bolt fits tight) for as many bolts has you have and shove them all through the holes up to close to the heads. Then in my blast cabinet I would using sand or garnet hit the heads to give them a good tooth for the paint to stick to. Would make another clean piece of cardboard just like the previous one and use that to paint the heads only. Then take the original cardboard used in the blast cabinet and using scrap bolts put the nuts on and blast them or however you want to blast them. After painting the bolts and they are dry like overnight, turn that piece of cardboard over, put the blasted nuts on the bolts even with the bolt end and pull it back so only the nuts are exposed not the bolt threads and paint the nuts. I have done this many times and it works out pretty well. The JD paint is a good suggestion too.
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Old 06-16-2020, 10:46 PM   #6
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As another note most black oxide platers have a minimal $50 charge and $1.00 a pound after the first fifty. Two cans of decent rattle can paint would cost you close to that.

I send stuff off weekly for black oxide and if you need a recommendation for a place I can give you one.


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Old 06-16-2020, 11:31 PM   #7
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Pete,

If you have enough, get a quote from the place in Montclair. Their black zinc coating is pretty durable. Their price was reasonable.
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Old 06-17-2020, 12:41 AM   #8
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For many years I have been finishing nuts, bolts and washers, and many small hardware items with very good results. I grit blast them, spray them with flat or satin black, and bake them in a portable electric oven at 350 degrees for about 15 minutes. The finish and especially the durability are excellent. PHIL
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You could get parkerized bolts a bit back from roy. Times changing.


We were in the golden age of flathead parts. It's getting slim now in opinion.

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The last time I wanted to darken/blacken some cadmium plated bolts, I used this stuff.
It may or may not work to your satisfaction but it sure beats painting in my mind.


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Old 06-17-2020, 05:40 AM   #11
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You could get parkerized bolts a bit back from roy. Times changing.


We were in the golden age of flathead parts. It's getting slim now in opinion.
Good news is you still can. Mike Driscoll 35fordtn (posted above) owns the company now.
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Old 06-17-2020, 06:31 AM   #12
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There is some stuff my friend just turned me on to called "Blacken It" I haven't used it yet so not sure of the shine of the finish but plan on getting a can!!!!
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If you have enough, get a quote from the place in Montclair. Their black zinc coating is pretty durable. Their price was reasonable.

I am so impressed with the Seymour rattle can paint, that I buy it whenever I see it. It sprays like a gun. Not kidding.
When I was working on my 4 window coupe, I had them do some parts with a black zinc. It seems that it's something they don't usually do and it took a long while for them to get around to it. They were probably waiting until they had a big enough batch.

I still have a couple of cans of the Seymour paint out in the shed. There was always a guy named Branden selling it at Hershey and other places but I haven't seen him in years. Zero Rust works nicely too and I've gotten that in a place in Paterson.

OK. I have to start poking holes in cardboard and get on with it.

Thanks all!
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I use somthing called black fast for small bits and pieces that needs fast oxide coating.
Nice to work with at room temperature.
Sold from UK.
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Old 06-18-2020, 05:21 PM   #15
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Has anyone tried wood stove polish ?
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When restoring my Model A PU years ago with my dad he had me use a torch and heat the bolts that we wanted to darken really hot and drop them into used motor oil. This was easy and gave a nice finish.
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Good news is you still can. Mike Driscoll 35fordtn (posted above) owns the company now.

My bad. That's great news really.
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Regarding spraying bolts and small parts, I use pieces of 3/8"- 1/2" square opening galvanized screen. With the screen it is easier to paint the bolt heads. Same thing when sand blasting.
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Regarding spraying bolts and small parts, I use pieces of 3/8"- 1/2" square opening galvanized screen. With the screen it is easier to paint the bolt heads. Same thing when sand blasting.
Great suggestion
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I have heated and sprayed with WD-40, gives a nice black finish. Just use caution when spraying.
Also if I have to use a newer style bolt on an early Ford, I take it to the sander first and get all the marks off the head. I also take the marks off stainless and then polish it, looks like chrome.
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