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Bruce Adams · 07-23-2015, 04:45 AM

I was looking at Wally World's web site for Marvel Mystery Oil and look what I tripped over.
They call it 600W and its the same ISO as the 600W researched on this board by MOBIL at $35 / gallon.
I doubt I will find it on WalMart's shelves but they usually ship free for store pickup. They say its not available for free pickup on Long Island, NY though.

http://www.walmart.com/ip/MOBIL-Mobi...r-Oil/40892587

Ed Saniewski · 07-23-2015, 05:46 AM

Looks like it is not available for pick up in northern NJ either.

Mike V. Florida · 07-23-2015, 06:40 AM

Nor within 50 miles of Fort Lauderdale.

Brianfrench65 · 07-23-2015, 07:11 AM

I have been told to use STP, in my transmission. It has never shifted better or been as cool and quiet, since I drained it overnight, and filled it with just straight STP, which is on the shelf at the Big Box stores.

Franchise_24 · 07-23-2015, 07:16 AM

No store will stock it. It's sold through one of their marketplace vendors so it will be shipping only.

Oldbluoval · 07-23-2015, 07:50 AM

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As strange as it sounds and others can poo-poo or confirm, I've heard staright STP does not have adequate lubricating properties.

V4F · 07-23-2015, 07:59 AM

I use lucas 80/140 + power punch ...... steve

mshmodela · 07-23-2015, 08:30 AM

http://www.mobil.com/USA-English/Lub...ar_600_XP.aspx

That oil is 460 W iso not 600 W from above

Greg Jones · 07-23-2015, 08:32 AM

Mobilgear 680-buy it from a distributor of Mobil products.

[email protected] · 07-23-2015, 09:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Oldbluoval

As strange as it sounds and others can poo-poo or confirm, I've heard staright STP does not have adequate lubricating properties.

Correct! STP always has to be mixed with some oil to work properly and should not be used 100%. It is basically just an oil thickener. Years ago, stock car racers have sometimes used a 80:20 STP mix on old beaters but always had at least 20% oil in the crankcase.

JD 1931 · 07-23-2015, 09:58 AM

I have use 185w gear lube and cut it with 25% STP for years , works great use it in trans, rear end and sterring...

Terry, NJ · 07-23-2015, 10:53 AM

They say that STP is not a lubricant, but I've never seen that borne out by experience. I've told this story before, but a friend who was scrapping a lot of cars in the seventies tried a little test. How long could an engine with no oil run. This was as informal as you can get, But the engines with STP in the oil ran the longest. If someone has some scrap engines lying around and is willing to sacrifice them, I'd like to hear the results of your test. Please be a little more "Scientific" about it and write the numbers down.
Terry

Terry, NJ · 07-23-2015, 11:02 AM

Let me issue a disclaimer; I don't own stock in either Studebaker or Worthington or whoever owns STP now!
I have read (Can't cite the article) that STP cannot be removed from metal surfaces by solvents. It must be ground off. So at the very least, if you're putting a car away for long term storage, add some STP to the oils and get everything well coated.
Terry

MikeK · 07-23-2015, 11:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oldbluoval

As strange as it sounds and others can poo-poo or confirm, I've heard staright STP does not have adequate lubricating properties.

Quote:

Originally Posted by [email protected]

Correct! STP always has to be mixed with some oil to work properly. . .

If you look at the MSDS you will see it is mostly OIL with a small percentage of additives. MSDS LINK
My old glass tube and steel ball viscosity rig has shown STP Hi-Mileage formulation to be about 4,700 SUS @ 100F. That's roughly iso 680 or thicker oil as the base.

BILL WILLIAMSON · 07-23-2015, 11:50 AM

When working @ a Volvo/Nissan dealer, when a new car owner complained of a "slight" differential whine, like @ 61 to 63 MPH, we'd drain the 90W & fill it with 140W & NO MORE COMPLAINT !
Bill W.

Mitch//pa · 07-23-2015, 11:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BILL WILLIAMSON

When working @ a Volvo/Nissan dealer, when a new car owner complained of a "slight" differential whine, like @ 61 to 63 MPH, we'd drain the 90W & fill it with 140W & NO MORE COMPLAINT !
Bill W.

did they ever whine at 60 or 64

SA sonnout

BILL WILLIAMSON · 07-23-2015, 12:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mitch//pa

did they ever whine at 60 or 64

SA sonnout

They ALWAYS seem to WHINE @ your FAVORITE drivin' SPEED---YEA ! for inheritant Model A noises, NOBODY complains of a "little" WINE, ur I mint WHINE!
Yo' Dad W.

mrtexas · 07-23-2015, 12:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MikeK

If you look at the MSDS you will see it is mostly OIL with a small percentage of additives. MSDS LINK
My old glass tube and steel ball viscosity rig has shown STP Hi-Mileage formulation to be about 4,700 SUS @ 100F. That's roughly iso 680 or thicker oil as the base.

All oils are not lubricants. Lube oils are branched chain paraffins.

pooch · 07-23-2015, 01:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BILL WILLIAMSON

They ALWAYS seem to WHINE @ your FAVORITE drivin' SPEED---YEA ! for inheritant Model A noises, NOBODY complains of a "little" WINE, ur I mint WHINE!
Yo' Dad W.

Like the jumbo jet full of british tourists landing in Sydney.

After touchdown the jet's engine stopped whining, but the passengers didn't .

CarlG · 07-23-2015, 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Mitch//pa

did they ever whine at 60 or 64

Do you want some cheese with that whine?

07-23-2015, 04:45 AM	#1
Bruce Adams Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Northport, NY Posts: 1,597	600 W Tranny Oil at Walmart I was looking at Wally World's web site for Marvel Mystery Oil and look what I tripped over. They call it 600W and its the same ISO as the 600W researched on this board by MOBIL at $35 / gallon. I doubt I will find it on WalMart's shelves but they usually ship free for store pickup. They say its not available for free pickup on Long Island, NY though. http://www.walmart.com/ip/MOBIL-Mobi...r-Oil/40892587 Last edited by Bruce Adams; 07-23-2015 at 04:47 AM. Reason: x

07-23-2015, 05:46 AM	#2
Ed Saniewski Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Denville NJ Posts: 964	Re: 600 W Tranny Oil at Walmart Looks like it is not available for pick up in northern NJ either. __________________ Model A Ford Club of New Jersey http://www.mafcnj.org Model A Pick Up Owners and Enthusiasts http://www.fordbarn.com/forum/group.php?groupid=5

07-23-2015, 06:40 AM	#3
Mike V. Florida Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: South Florida Posts: 14,054	Re: 600 W Tranny Oil at Walmart Nor within 50 miles of Fort Lauderdale. __________________ What's right about America is that although we have a mess of problems, we have great capacity - intellect and resources - to do some thing about them. - Henry Ford II

07-23-2015, 07:11 AM	#4
Brianfrench65 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2015 Location: Freetown, Massachusetts Posts: 511	Re: 600 W Tranny Oil at Walmart I have been told to use STP, in my transmission. It has never shifted better or been as cool and quiet, since I drained it overnight, and filled it with just straight STP, which is on the shelf at the Big Box stores. __________________ Brian French; 1930 Briggs Town Sedan

07-23-2015, 07:16 AM	#5
Franchise_24 Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Lexington, Ohio Posts: 782	Re: 600 W Tranny Oil at Walmart No store will stock it. It's sold through one of their marketplace vendors so it will be shipping only. __________________ 1929 Model A Ford Coupe

07-23-2015, 07:50 AM	#6
Oldbluoval Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: Signal Mtn, TN (SE TN) Posts: 2,374	Re: 600 W Tranny Oil at Walmart Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements) As strange as it sounds and others can poo-poo or confirm, I've heard staright STP does not have adequate lubricating properties.

07-23-2015, 07:59 AM	#7
V4F Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: ca. Posts: 2,522	Re: 600 W Tranny Oil at Walmart I use lucas 80/140 + power punch ...... steve __________________ V4f

07-23-2015, 08:30 AM	#8
mshmodela Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: Cleveland, Ohio Posts: 2,763	Re: 600 W Tranny Oil at Walmart http://www.mobil.com/USA-English/Lub...ar_600_XP.aspx That oil is 460 W iso not 600 W from above __________________ -Mike Late 31' Ford Model A Tudor, Miss Daisy I don't work on cars --I'm learning about my Model A. Cleveland, Ohio

07-23-2015, 08:32 AM	#9
Greg Jones Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Aiken, South Carolina Posts: 695	Re: 600 W Tranny Oil at Walmart Mobilgear 680-buy it from a distributor of Mobil products.

07-23-2015, 09:58 AM	#11
JD 1931 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: west coast Fla.. Posts: 311	Re: 600 W Tranny Oil at Walmart I have use 185w gear lube and cut it with 25% STP for years , works great use it in trans, rear end and sterring...

07-23-2015, 10:53 AM	#12
Terry, NJ Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Bucks Co, Pa Posts: 3,740	Re: 600 W Tranny Oil at Walmart They say that STP is not a lubricant, but I've never seen that borne out by experience. I've told this story before, but a friend who was scrapping a lot of cars in the seventies tried a little test. How long could an engine with no oil run. This was as informal as you can get, But the engines with STP in the oil ran the longest. If someone has some scrap engines lying around and is willing to sacrifice them, I'd like to hear the results of your test. Please be a little more "Scientific" about it and write the numbers down. Terry Last edited by Terry, NJ; 07-23-2015 at 11:04 AM.

07-23-2015, 11:02 AM	#13
Terry, NJ Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Bucks Co, Pa Posts: 3,740	Re: 600 W Tranny Oil at Walmart Let me issue a disclaimer; I don't own stock in either Studebaker or Worthington or whoever owns STP now! I have read (Can't cite the article) that STP cannot be removed from metal surfaces by solvents. It must be ground off. So at the very least, if you're putting a car away for long term storage, add some STP to the oils and get everything well coated. Terry

07-23-2015, 11:50 AM	#15
BILL WILLIAMSON Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: FRESNO, CA Posts: 12,560	Re: 600 W Tranny Oil at Walmart When working @ a Volvo/Nissan dealer, when a new car owner complained of a "slight" differential whine, like @ 61 to 63 MPH, we'd drain the 90W & fill it with 140W & NO MORE COMPLAINT ! Bill W. __________________ "THE ASSISTANT GURU OF STUFF"