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Old 06-25-2022, 03:56 PM   #1
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Hello All,

I'm just about to install new valves, guides, springs and retainers. I really don't feel like spending money on assembly lube for a few parts. I would think such a product didn't exist back in the Model A days, so I was thinking of just using CRC Stay-Lube, Stay-Plex red grease, something I could imagine in the day, ... just grease. I also have babbitt bearings.

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Old 06-25-2022, 05:08 PM   #2
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How about some STP? It’s pretty cheap. Or Permatex 81950 Assembly Lube $5 or $6.
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Gear oil works.
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Old 06-26-2022, 10:47 AM   #4
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Ditto STP
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All you need is an 8 oz bottle of assembly lube ----- $10 or so.
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Old 06-26-2022, 11:48 AM   #6
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Can, I ask how much is assembly lube?
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Old 06-26-2022, 12:51 PM   #7
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Can, I ask how much is assembly lube?
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Here is what I use.
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If assembly lube will work and something else does not... How much will the (not) assembly lube cost??? $7.00 seems like cheap insurance.
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Any oil will work fine. Assembly lube really isn't anything more special than any other lubricant unless you don't know what you are doing and set clearances way too tight all around.
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Old 06-27-2022, 03:43 PM   #10
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Any oil will work fine. Assembly lube really isn't anything more special than any other lubricant unless you don't know what you are doing and set clearances way too tight all around.
Ask an engine builder what they use. I bet the answer isn’t “any oil”.
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Old 06-27-2022, 05:31 PM   #11
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Although I'm a Model T engine & transmission builder, I pre-lube all internal parts with the same oil I recommend for running in the engine.
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Although I'm a Model T engine & transmission builder, I pre-lube all internal parts with the same oil I recommend for running in the engine.
That's all I do when I assemble an A engine.
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Lycoming recommends 50:50 mixture of engine oil and STP got their aircraft engines.
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I always use it on engine rebuilds. If the engine sits for a while the lube does not run out. Also starting a new engine always has close tolerances and more heat.
Cam manufacturers always call for a breakin lube.

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I agree with posts #9, 11 and 12
But if using assembly lube makes you feel better I say go for it
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Old 06-29-2022, 09:48 AM   #16
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I agree with posts #9, 11 and 12
But if using assembly lube makes you feel better I say go for it
Ditto

FWIW, I've never worked on an engine that wasn't going to be used shortly after it was assembled.
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I use the Ultra-Slick as in post #7 but also mix a bit of engine oil in with it.
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Back when I was starting out in the '60s I was taught to use STP as my assembly lube for everything (STP stood for "Studebaker Tickled Pink", boy were we clever since Studebaker had just shut down). We even dipped head bolts in STP, which I believe we now realize is not good to do since most head bolt torques are with the studs dry. Nowadays there are certainly other assembly lubes such as the Permatex noted. I'd avoid heavy grease like the StaPlex red as it may occlude oil passages initially until it gets mixed with the circulating oil.

Besides, as someone posted earlier, what's another $10 for a new engine?

Or, just use oil and run it in immediately.

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STP stood for "Studebaker Tickled Pink",
I was taught that STP stands for: Sex Takes Practice.
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